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Jack Hunter: "Why Rand Was Right to Endorse Romney"




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Jack Hunter nailed it!

Jack Hunter nailed it! I bet Rand will vote Libertarian behind the curtain LOL.

libertarian?

even liberty supporting people can be misled - remember to always get the facts and think for yourself - thats why we are ron paul SUPPORTERS - it defines us - we aren't ron paul FOLLOWERS.... in either case, like i said, find out the facts before you make up your mind: Rand Paul has said all along that he is NOT a libertarian - he believes in govt applied force in certain instances - he just voted to approve sanctions on iran. He's not the best, he's not the worst - but seems more a neocon in reality IMO than a pure liberty candidate (i'm comparing him to someone like justin amash)

thomas conway

I do think for myself. That's

I do think for myself. That's why I'm disagreeing with the majority here that Rand is a traitor. The Romney endorsement was hard to stomach, but Jack Hunter makes some valid points. I like Rand's style of compromising a little to get more power. People can call me naive if they want, but that's how you get things moving in the right direction. Ron is a great guy, the great mind behind our movement, but now we have Rand who is not as ideologically pure but doesn't mind getting his hands a little dirty to play the game. I like that, most people here don't but I do.

Are you naive?

or a really dumb troll.

You are without top hat! Good

You are without top hat! Good day.

stop being a sheep

stop being a sheep

deacon's picture

my nickels worth

2 weeks ago Ron Paul was the smartest man around
he was never corruptible,he is the champion of
the constitution
he has been around the system long enough to know the
players and the players of the players
then a few things happened,and now,for some reason,our hearts
changed
did he just crawl out from under a rock and not know
who bernanke is?
did he just wake up to find people with nefarious agendas
running his campaign?
wouldn't Ron Paul already know the real handlers in washington?
he had breakfast with bernanke,benton stated we weren't
campaigning in the few remaining states
if he truly was incorruptible and an honest man,and truly wise
as we have come to realize,then wouldn't he also know who
people truly are and who they stand with,and why?
no one could catch him by surprise,he has been around long enough
to truly know the inner workings and the people involved
who are against the USA,the world for that matter
but what happened next? well he has been called a sell out
he stopped campaigning when he could have won
he waited over 30 years for each of us,yes each and everyone
who desires and seeks peace,imagine that!!
that's longer than most involved have been alive
if ones truly believe in his message and the man from whom it
came from,then we must believe that he would raise his kids
the same way?
i for one do not believe he was caught by surprise,nor do i believe he sold us out or came up short
no other candidate has the support from people of other
countries
his message has not been compromised or lost,this is for us
and about us
do you honestly think he will see this to the end?
he is a smart cookie with the same plan,lets not sell him and
ourselves short
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

Jack Hunter is Right: Gullible Followers are Wrong

You need to advance principle by playing Politics. Not the other way around.

Many foolish followers do not understand chess. They do not understand the Art of War.

Many foolish followers waste 50 hrs a week on TV, what have they done other than donating a few dollars and spouting garbage on internet?

We have a long hard slog ahead and a long way to go.

Be a University Professor, Be a credible Lawyer, Run for Congress, Senate, local offices.

Thats how you win. Not by screaming and blaming Rand, like a loser.

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BestVideo, Political Correctness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8pzG02oxU#t=19s
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So

Lying, cheating and stealing is now the best way to further the movement?

Ron didn't endorse Mccain. And if he did, I hardly doubt we would be looking at the Party of Paul today.

So Jack, trying to "reason" how Jesus could have furthered Christianity by endorsing Satan on the mountain?

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-LibertyG ... 2 Corinthians 2:16-17 "To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life. And who is competent for this? For we are not like the many who make a trade(for profit) but as those with sincerity...

I think I hate Sean Hannity more than I hate Bill O"Reilly if th

at is possible! I mean he must of had an orgasm somewhere in that interview. Rand, picked the worst fucking possible commentator and venue to announce his endorsement of Establishment candidate B!!

Imagine if Jack realized that we have a toxic election process.

A system where the leaders are predetermined, polls are fabricated, media is propaganda, and elections are stolen. I don't care how much you strategize and position for the future, it simply does not matter without adherence to the rules by those playing.

Edit Headline...

Jack Hunter: "Why Rand was Right to Endorse Romney on Hannity! AND why he is right to Campaign for him too!!!"

I actually might have gone for this damage control that Jack is working so hard on.... if it weren't for the ticker tape edited headline I have running through my head!

Dagny
"I don't know if the world is full of smart men bluffing
or imbeciles who mean it."

What "damage control"?

He's trying to derail all supporters to believe Ron Paul is endorsing Romney. I mean, if Rand is right, then Ron Paul should endorse Romney too, right?

Wake up, people, these are infiltrators bent to derail and take over the movement (but they will fail on both counts).

Read about Ogylve Olson and you'll understand where the likes of Hunter are coming from.

What you just explained....

is exactly what I am referring too! I am saying that Hunter is still trying to make the Rand endorsement look good to the RP supporters... (as if we are going to fall for it!)....aka "damage control". Perhaps you misunderstood what I was trying to say? .... I am wide awake...and not fooled anymore by Hunter and many others.... admittedly I was not aware of these betrayals from the beginning, but I am now... and that is what I am (sarcastically) referring too!
PS. I already read the article!

Dagny
"I don't know if the world is full of smart men bluffing
or imbeciles who mean it."

Yes, I know what you meant...

...at least eventually I did :)

I just took a differen twist on 'damage control'. This Hunter shill and the reverence he's attracting is very bothersome. If you go to ronpaul2012.com you'll see his latest articles. The movement has lost the campaign website to these shills.

The point is of course that Ron Paul has in NO WAY endorsed Romney and these shills are saying that Rand's move was the right one - meaning Ron should follow... which will not happen I am sure.

DP, please respect our intelligence

Jack Hunter has already taken over the RonPaul2012.com website - well, his handlers have. Will the DP go this way too? What's this shill doing on the front page for so long? Put Raimondo's timely article and the Penny Freeman interview instead. Ron Paul supporters need to know that the campaign HQ has been taken over by neo-con infiltrators and the foot soldiers are on their own at the trenches.

Ron Paul has NOT endorsed Romney and WILL NOT. Soon he will realize what level of infiltration and derailment he's dealing with.

How dare you

Impune this mans honor. You are a disgrace.

Hunter hasn't a shred of honor

Is that your take? This man's honor? Who's a disgrace?

You kev

Hunter has always been a great champion for our cause, and has never done anything to make me suspect him of anything incidious. So you sir, for trying to smear this man, you are a disgrace.

Hunter is another SHILL

I support Ron Paul and his message, Rodrigo80. Not Rand, not Hunter, not Benton, not the globalist shill Olson. Get that? Ron Paul AND his message. And surely not anyone who abandons that message and endorses another obamanite minion. THAT is the disgrace, Rodrigo, and you form part of it.

Looooonatic

Spread your conspiracy theory garbage somewhere else. Hunter is a good man. And a great advocate for our message.

Maybe.

I agree that we should try to steer clear of assuming people are all corrupt. But lets assume for a moment that you are correct and he is an advocate for our message. What he JUST said in this video is that it is okay to pander and vote against the very principles you believe in to gain footing on political ground. In my opinion, he's a great advocate for our message UNLESS there is political ground to gain. And then all bets are off. At least that's what I got from his video. The great thing about Ron Paul is that statement was always true because he had no, "UNLESS" in the sentence. By Jack putting the "UNLESS" there he is now saying that principles can be bent, broken or twisted and the ends justify the means.

Would Ron Paul Support Romney?

We all know what the answer to that is. It's called INTEGRITY. Rand committed to a power move and now has to live with the fact that, unlike his father, he will be known as a politician willing to make compromises on his principles. You cannot argue this reality. This is why I love Ron Paul - Because he would never compromise his principles for a power grab.

Principles?????

What principle did he compromise? Endorsing Romney does NOT violate ANY principle of liberty. You may not like the fact that he did endorse Romney, but Rand's voting record speaks for itself. I think JH is right in making the distinction between politics and principles. Compromising politics is acceptable and how the game is played, i.e. the ends justifies the means as long as you are not breaking the law and/or hurting someone. Compromising principles is flip flopping or changing your mind or abandoning ideas you stand for without substantive explanation. Jack is right when he says that Rand made a political compromise and not a principle compromise. As such, his endorsement of Romney will only affect his political success (one way or the other and Jack argues positively). His endorsement in NO WAY changes the principles for which he stands which is measured by his voting record.

Compromising politically

Is what Ron Paul and his campaign have been saying differentiates RP from all other candidates. It's not been a bad run for RP these last few years either and the movement has been growing. RP has proven it's possible to have values and beliefs about others that he even disagrees with, without endorsing them or their lifestyle, and still win elections.

Rand Paul is trying a different method. It's the method used by every other politician in Congress. And he's using it because up until a few years ago it worked like a charm. People are waking up now though. And it's okay that we question motives. I think he did a big disservice to his future political career by starting to sound like the duck we all have come to hate. That being the GOP/Democratic political machine.

Furthermore, I'm not voting for RP because he is politically strong. I'm voting for him, because he stands by his word and does what he says he'll do. Regardless of how many people it pisses off.

Lastly compromising politically is just disgusting. And is reminiscent of every other dirty politician in congress. It just might be the sole reason Congress has such an abysmal approval rate from the American people.

GREAT Comment Kid!

At 1:55 my finger was hovering over the close button, when you said "allow me to explain". I figured you have done plenty for the Movement, so I gave you that chance.

After hearing 80% of what you had to say, you conclude that "perception is reality". You undo everything up to that point with your so spot-on phrase. The perception taken by 'the Masses' here is that Rand walks like a duck. Capish?

2016!?! Really? You actually think we have that much time?
At this point, all I can say is that if I am still alive in 2016, you had best hope we don't end up in the same FEMA Camp...

Ed in Phoenix

p.s. Nuclear Kid made the best observation with "Rand committed to a power move and now has to live with the fact that, unlike his father, he will be known as a politician willing to make compromises on his principles. You cannot argue this reality." Brilliant.

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

No, he will not

In Texas, the day after Rand Paul committed to the enemy, Ron Paul said that unity can only be achieved if the GOP unites behind the constitution. He was clear in that he can not support anything other than that. Hopefully he will come out clearer in the coming days - when he releases himself from the clutches of those who hijacked his campaign.

I will NEVER vote for Romney

Read it again. I will NEVER vote for Romney. He is a big government, warmongering, deficit spending neo-con. Rands endorsement only makes me dislike him more. I will vote for Gary Johnson waaaay before I vote for Romney.

No one

No one s asking you to