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Jack Hunter: "Why Rand Was Right to Endorse Romney"

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Nobody is Confused

I think we all completely understand why Rand did what he did; but most of us could never endorse anybody who would become president and continue the murderous behavior the Republican party dispatches toward of our fellow humans. We are not confused. We are much smarter than you give us credit for and we don't need a leader. We are our own leaders, and I hope we're ready to stop taking political advice from those that have led us to two defeats. We should have gone all in and tried to win no matter what the short term political fall out is.

I think we all loved Dr. Paul because he stood up to Giuliani, Romney, McCain, Thompson(both of them), Huckabee, Santorum, Perry, Bachman, Gingrich, and the whole war mongering, murderous, mad, mechanism of the Republican party. We're not Democrats, we're not Republicans, we're the only people on this earth that can give liberty to ourselves and the whole of humanity. We grew this movement by not endorsing those that would hijack our freedoms away from us.

How is Rand supposed to grab the support of independents, liberals and moderates if he endorses a candidate who would carry on wars that 80% of the country detests? You people that our leading our movement have become obsessed with winning the Republican nomination in 2016. Your plan is to gain the support of Republicans that literally cheered for the deaths of those who can't afford health insurance. They cheered Perry's massive death penalty record. They boo'd an end to the overseas wars. We must educate these people first. It may be decades before these people finally get it; but joining them is not how you change minds. Becoming one of them will only encourage their need for blood.

The Paul movement is done. The liberty movement has just started.



It is truly incredible how these assholes believe we are going to fall for their B.S. They are rapping the name of the Good Doctor for the sake of their own political gain. On top of that they insist on selling us the treason they are espousing.

We are a leaderless revolution!!! a grass roots revolution!!! These so called leaders you mentioned are not Our leaders. YOU ARE A LEADER OF THE REVOLUTION. I AM A LEADER IN THE REVOLUTION. WE ARE OUR OWN LEADERS NOW. Jackie can just shut up now.. he only passes as Extremely annoying.

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

The only thing Rand cares

The only thing Rand cares about is his own career.

He's a POS!



I Hope Your Not Talking About Me

I'm not a troll. No one pays me anything. I'm an Aerospace Engineering student at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Before that I was the lyricst and bass player of a punk rock band named HeyMike! We were never that popular; but we did put out three records on x-Yellowcard guitarist's label Takeover Records and Sony in Japan. It's 2:00 in the morning on Friday night, the trolls are sleeping. And seriously, I'm not trying to plug my stupid band either, I just want you to know that I'm writing from the heart, not an insider's checkbook. I'm with you, not against you. Here is my bands completely dead myspace and facebook pages so you can check up on it. I've also left a youtube video with an anti-war song we wrote.


I'm Josh McDonald, hi, it's nice to meet you. I'm a family man now, I have a beautiful daughter and lovely woman that takes care of the both of us.

By the way, I was a liberal back in those days. Then I saw Peter Schiff was Right and I started studying. Now I'm here.

FYI quickbrownfox

This is the first time I have ever posted on this forum (well, yesterday was the first post) and I donate every month, and I'm not a guy!
So go blow!

Professional Troll?

Sew seeds of doubt and distrust...

DP mods... please send this guy's money back and delete his account. If you email me I'll give you w/e amount he gave so he could troll with impunity.

Yeah I just watched nasty post a message

and right after he went down the other post and somehow was able to -3 every post as he went down the list. he is a troll. He is trying to spread division against the Paul's.

Ya I minus 3 all the posts.

Ya I minus 3 all the posts. It's all me.
I'm everyone on this blog.

ahhh, forget it. You're too dumb to argue with

The idea that Rand Paul will

The idea that Rand Paul will change the GOP on spending, foreign policy, civil liberties and the drug war by being a "good GOP soldier" is laughable on its face. Rand's "taking one for the team" is as pathetic as warmonger Santorum's admission in the debates.

Will Rand reform the GOP or will the GOP corrupt Rand? That's an easy question to answer. The GOP will throw Rand table scraps which he'll parade around Paul supporters as pathetic "reform" trophies. Hey, maybe Rand will get the GOP to reduce the baked in, annual baseline increases in the Federal budget reduced from 5% to 4.75%!

Gary Johnson taking 15% of the national vote in November will do far more to change the attitude of both parties than any pathetic bone the hopelessly corrupt GOP throws to Rand Paul.

The GOP threw bones to Ron Paul for 30 years also

He has also voted against these same people for 30 years. That is how he built such a trusted record. oh and he spread the message of liberty inside and outside that same party. so whats your point?

Will Rand reform the GOP or will the GOP corrupt Rand?

Rand is already corrupt. No one with any ethics would do what he did. Especially to his own father.

typical psyops tactic...

Sew the seeds of doubt and distrust. Divide and conquer... Too bad so many are falling for it.


I'm on to him and I will report him when I see the next mod. He is leaving a trail of hate as long as the eye can see.

The internet police are on to

The internet police are on to me....

Jack Hunter: Puppet of the establishment

Go spread your message of treason somewhere else! WE ARE NOT BUYING YOUR B.S. This whole notion of "Ron and Rand only differing on strategy" is just an excuse for Treason. The only justification for this is a death threat. Even so one, and one's family, ought to be ready for death when involved so deep in the movement.

These guys are selling out on strategy- the means. And they use principle- the ends- to justify their actions. This B.S. will be used as it has in the past; by using Libertarian rhetoric to further the establishment's Fascism.

There is no compromise on principle. There is no selling out. There will be no furthering of our cause by trying to change the establishment from within. We are Libertarians, not Conservaterian like Mr. Hunter... Go suck on the establisment's titt's all you want... we are Not!!! We don't need the republican wing of the establishment, we don't need Rand, and we don't need Ron.

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

Another person with such a new account sounding particularly...

Nasty... Gee... I wonder if someone is using proxies or if the Romney and/or Obama camp is so desperate (or maybe the LP, let's not forget the crap candidate the LP put out last time) that now they're going for the psyops strategy.

Again right after you made that post and uped it to +1

he made it go down to -3 this guy is the worst troll I've ever seen and I cannot believe any real RP supporter would fall for all this hate Rand talk.

Are you a private detective?

Are you a private detective? You seem like one.

shut up man, jeez you sound

shut up man, jeez you sound delusional. no, not everyone who's fed up with this is a troll hiding under your bed.


not only under his bed... also up his..

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

hahaha he is actully talking to himself

treough his different accounts now that is sad.

Who's talking to

Who's talking to himself?????
Let me in.

And you don't?


I'm not the one who is downright trashing those who have done more for the Liberty movement than you or I will ever do.

I'm not the one who is absurdly throwing around that Rand is bought out, along with Jack Hunter? Despite Rand Paul more or less pulling a one man filibuster on the Patriot Act renewal?

What have you done for the Liberty Movement? Sat in front of your computer and bashed those who actually do something of significance?

Timmay, you need to up your meds

Your delusions of granduer are coming through again.

Delusional is talking to yourself

on a form with different accounts so you can downvote Ron Pauls closes supporters and his family members. your a low life!

You're the only troll here

I have no more words for trolls like you. Rand and even Ron are nothing without us. We are the movement.

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

No me and tam are the movement your a freaking troll

I am actually watching you down vote and up vote with 4 accounts. That is sick man and they say the RP supporters are 4 guys in a basement I guess they sad that because they had you with your four accounts in your moms basement. You know they can look to see if all those accounts come from the same ISP don't you?

oh please

Have them look!!

Dude your Totally delusional

the only comeback to the treason of Rand is that those who oppose treason are nothing more and nothing less than just one person with four different accounts???? LOL!!!! you conservatarians are fucking unbelievable!!! LOL!!!! have a great time voting for obamney!!!

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees