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Tom Woods on Webster Tarpley -

"Tarpley must have his good points, I suppose, but what's so special about a Keynesian who says the general welfare clause authorizes national health care, which he favors, and who thinks Bush was laissez-faire? That's some serious confusion."

Thomas E Woods Jr

In context:

The above quote was taken from Tom's Facebook page when he updated his status with, "I am back in the U.S.! Off to Ft Worth for events tomorrow and Saturday, and then you might actually start hearing from me again!"

A subscriber, in the same thread posted a comment, " Good thing, because Tarpley could really use your help right now..."



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I will agree with Tarpley on

I will agree with Tarpley on one thing. I don't think you can cut food stamps by as much as the Restore America plan calls for without hurting people. Unfortunately, we have a society that is addicted to government benefits and it has been many decades in the making. It is going to take time to unravel this. Let's also remember folks were forced into programs like social security and medicare by the government and have given money to it - even though the government has plundered the money and put worthless IOUs in the non-trust fund. To me, this is a contract and maybe more so since it was compelled.

I would aggressively go after cutting the government down to Constitutional size by eliminating departments like non-education, non-commerce, non-energy, etc., along with phasing out the empire and working on actually having a strong Department of Defense, not a Department of Offense that overlooks defense. We are a dependent country. We can also put programs into place to phase out the government dependency, along with trying to bring morals/ethics back and say we need to take care of each other - to love thy neighbor - and not depend on the government to do it and do it not well.

Very good points

And I agree with everything you just said. But I'm starting to wonder if cutting our empire WOULD benefit us at this point, remember- we have embarked on Military Keynsianism (spelling is wrong i know, too lazy right now) and I think what is keeping our fiat currency worth ANYTHING is the fact that we're propping up dictators in OPEC nations so that they continue to sell their oil only in dollars. Many think this is the only thing salvaging what little value the dollar has left.

Do I advocate this system? Absolutely not, its disgusting and needs to come down. But I don't think cutting the puppet strings of the middle east would "strengthen the dollar" or help our economy, because we wouldn't be able to forcefully export our inflation any longer, plus all of the troops coming home to unemployment which we cannot even afford at this point. IMO the system has to completely collapse for their to be ANY chance of a reasonable foreign policy in the future...just my 3 cents

"I am Troll fighter, number one"

-Ernest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWb-ViejPg

I would agree with you had I not worked in the 90's providing

Food stamp services here at home. The problem is that is is chocked full of fraud, and is targeting minorities to ensure their reliance on government. If cutting the food stamp program caused problems, I think the churches and charities would ensure that those in need actually got what they needed. People forget how giving the majority of Americans are, and those with the means would certainly help those in need.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

I agree the program needs

I agree the program needs major reform. I'm amazed when I see folks using their food stamps and then buying 30-40 bucks worth of cigarettes and booze in a separate transaction.

I am just concerned about hurting people who are honest but dependent right now on the program. Maybe the funding should be sent to relief organizations - churches, Salvation Army, etc. to be better managed and distributed until we can get this country going again, then phase them out.

Can't wait to see it happen,

Can't wait to see it happen, Tarpley would crush him in a debate

It would be interesting...to say the least

Im sure we'll hear more from Tom on Tarpley soon -

I'm also certain Tom would be doing all the "crushing" and "smashing" - Tarpley could one for the stunt he's trying to pull.

i respect what tom woods says

so i need to here tom on what is going on with every thing from tarply and adam and alex.so Tom we need ya

freedom420

We need to ask Tom to address Tarpley in a video.

His comments on Ron Paul and Mises have to be refuted by someone of stature in the liberty movement.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I agree!

Bump this to the top, lets make it happen!

Tom Woods vs Webster Tarpley

Dont you all want to see that debate?

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I am thoroughly disgusted by Kokesh

in his interview with Tarpley. He does not counter the vile lies he makes through this interview. Has Kokesh gone over to the Dark Side just because he hates Benton so much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i7bzyKUBoU

You might be jumpin' the gun on that

..Adam was coducting an interview..not a FoxNews Smashdown.
Webster talks so incessantly he justs keeps going like a tommygun, stating point-upon-point-upon-point.
Adam was clever...he played Tarpley..like a "fish on the line".

Further proof that:"If you give 'em enough rope, they'll hang themselves"...Tarpley surely did hang himself.
Kudos to Adam!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

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He didn't "play" Tarpley at all. He gave him

free reign to spew smears and responded weakly if at all and smiled as if Tarpley were a respectable, rational analyst. The Likes for Tarpley on that video show how awful Adam's "rebuttal" was.

Simple answer ...

... Yes! Benton diss'd him, and he's been after him ever since. Very vengeful behavior. He's proving himself to be disturbed. Not surprising ... many vets are. Too much trauma for the brain to handle.

In the least

It would be cool to see Tom make one of his 5 minute videos addressing Tarpley's fallacious arguments.

Especially because Tarpley is not only attacking Ron Paul, but also the Mises Institute.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

you know prior to Tarp's commie psycho breakdown at

Bilderberg 2012, Chantilly, VA this year in both Adam Kokesh and Alex Jones interviews, I always thought to myself how cool it would be to have Tom, Bob Murphy, Bob Wenzel or Molyneux debate Tarpley on econ.

But sadly, the more I thought about it, I wasn't sure if I wanted FDR-worshiping commie infrastructure statist/Keynesian-Hamiltonian/American School fascism-loving Tarpley humiliated on econ by Austrians, which would invariably reflect poorly on his otherwise still brilliant geopolitical analyses.

And, didn't want Austrians nitpicking the fact that Tarpley's a 9/11 Truth activist, but getting P0nwz by Tarpley on the de facto standard operating procedure of the State/The Leviathan that is the historical fact of state-sponsored false flag terrorism instigating almost every single known war in our human history.

As Sun Tzu stated so brilliantly, so succinctly so many centuries ago: "ALL warfare is based on deception."

The only reason why many libertarians are automatically averse to the idea of even remotely postulating the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job, or conspiracy FACTS in general, is because it runs counter to their inherent notion that the State is inept.

Well, destroying things are always easier than creatively building something. And, destroying sh*t? The State EXCELS at it!

So, if anything, that reality alone should be a proven a-priori that does not need 'proving.' Besides, it's not as if 9/11 truth activists are saying that it was the 'whole' govt that was behind it. It's more than likely committed by a network of covert intel, SPECOPS, and private mercenaries, orchestrated by "shadow govt" as was already revealed during the Senate Church Commission hearings in 1970's and Iran Contra in 1980's. So how that absolute reality fact, should run counter to their understanding of reality, and frankly 'what they believe about govt,' vs. what the govt has a 'factual history of in-fact-committing,' is beyond me.

Just wished the various 'factions' can come together: Anti-War+Anti-Empire+Anti-Corporatists+Anti-NWO 9/11Truth Activists+Austrians & AnCap voluntaryists, and ALL fight the empire like FREE Humanity should, against the oligarchy, and all live in harmony.

But no, Tarpley has to be a stupid dumb-ass on econ, and talk sh*t about areas in which he comes to the most tyrannical conclusions on; for those who don't make a habit of doing due-diligence on their own, Tarpley's rather obvious intellect in the traditional sense, offers an alluring statist commie tyrannical progressive narrative/rationale against Wall St banksters and military ind. complex, especially if one has a habit of routinely confusing the proper cause vs. effect relationship on any given issue, but particularly when it comes to economics, or if you're simply a liberal who has just taken the R3D Pill, and are just learning about all this info for the first time.

Seriously, I truly often wonder why rudimentary economics is such a mystery to so many 'traditional intellectuals'/academics of all stripes. I would submit that no other subject matter in the world is so routinely misunderstood by more 'educated' people than any other field in life.

It boggles the mind. Truly.

P.S. Though, now? I would LOVE to see Tarpley get P0Wnzd by Tom Woods, Bob Murphy, Bob Wenzel, or Stefan Molyneux anytime!!! LOL

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I take the view that the state is quite adept at evil.

If their is one thing the state excels at, it is murder, theft, and violence.

Out of all the arms of the state, I hate the Central Intelligence Agency more than any other.

I have dedicated a lot of time to researching its history, especially that of the old Directorate of Plans and now the Special Activities Division, these are the wings of the agency responsible for overthrowing governments and political assassination.

The company is certainly capable of evil beyond most peoples imagination, they are quite good at their job.

A libertarian who thinks the State is just a bunch of fools, is incredibly naive.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Um, hey Josh, you sure you haven't infiltrated my noggins?

'Cause reading your commentary is like me hearing myself think...

LOL

xD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I haven't infiltrated your head...

BUT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS! Just kidding, they are only reading your expressed thoughts, through your email, phones, and social network profiles. They haven't created a surefire way to read minds yet, but don't worry they are working on it! lol

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I hope he "smashes" him

The whole genocide statement warrants a good ol Tom Woods "smashing"