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What is up with so many Ron paul supporters posting stuff for Gary Johnson on FB?

So many seemingly solid supporters are posting about Gary Johnson. Why??? This is making me really mad. Ron is not Rand and the delegate count is not over.If there has been corruption against Paul in his own campaign, why let that stop us? The media blackout didnt stop us, all the lies didnt stop us, the fight isnt over and people are jumping ship? WTF?!?!? So angry right now! Can anyone give some feedback, should be as angry as I am? GRRRR Have I missed an important article or piece of news?

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If Rand Paul can Endorse Mitt Romney, I Can Endorse Gary Johnson

'Nuff said.

Thank You Jesse Ventura!

On national CNN TV, former Governor Jesse Ventura endorsed Gary Johnson for President. He characterized the Democrats and Republicans as two criminal gangs who have consistenty driven American into huge debt and perpetual war. He said that if you rally want to rebel against this criminal conspiracy you will vote for Gary Johnson. His endorsement of Gary Johnson is at the end of the video:

Go Gary! Thank you Jesse!


I think the shift from Ron Paul to Gary Johnson is because

people who value freedom highly do gravitate to the politicians who offer them the best chance of restoring freedom.

Ron Paul has a track record of supporting freedom, and he has a strong intellectual foundation behind his actions. Gary Johnson is no Ron Paul, but is the next best choice.

Since Ron Paul has thrown in the towel it seems only logical that people would turn to Gary Johnson. There is little advocacy of freedom coming from the cores of the Democratic and Republican Parties, and neither of these criminal organizations is worthy of the support of freedom loving people.

If your flight is cancelled, you take the next best available flight to get to your destination.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

That's the way I feel about

That's the way I feel about all the Rand Paul posters. Taking over the Ron Paul supporters is not a rite of passage.

Harry Browne posters probably

Harry Browne posters probably thought the same about Ron Paul posters ;^)

Ron Paul supporters need to support liberty, not just Ron Paul. It often sounds like most of them would go to the grave with Ron before voting for an "interloper".

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I'm not sure I follow you. I

I'm not sure I follow you. I think you're right that DPer's will not automatically follow any "interloper". Why would or should they? I do believe they will all out support a viable liberty candidate but there isn't one! In my estimation Gary Johnson seems to be the most viable of all the speaking candidates?

Because they were never Ron Paul supporters

These people who keep pushing Gary Johnson don't support Dr Paul anyway. Gary Johnson actively ran against Ron Paul instead of endorsing Paul as he should have. And now these Gary Johnson supporters are licking their chops since they see Paul's campaign as ended. Now that Johnson thinks that Paul is finished he and his supporters are anxious to reel in as many Paul supporters as possible.

The thing is that if Gary Johnson was sincere he would have endorsed Paul from the beginning. Gary Johnson is a space cadet out for his own gain who is being used by the powers that be to split Paul's supporters. And his supporters are just as fickle.

Wrong. I'm getting bored

Wrong. I'm getting bored having to explain over and over again that with our caucuses over and having done everything we can for Dr. Paul, we are continuing the R3volution by trying to get our party moving forward as well. How many people have to say that it's not about the man but the message before it sinks in? I'm only pushing Johnson enough to get his name on the ballot so that our party can be recognized here in Maine. I'm not sure how that translates into me not being a Ron Paul supporter. I was a county delegate, aside from going to Tampa, what the hell more do you people want from us? Sit here and pound my fingers on the computer to argue with people within the movement about how we're doing it wrong? That does a lot of good. Jeezuz folks, use some of this energy to help the movement instead of complaigning.



1. Gary Johnson entered the race because he didn't think Ron was going to run, a month before Paul ran.

2. So if anything, Ron should have supported Johnson, not the other way around. It was Paul aggressively running against Johnson.

3. Now you guys are upset that Ron isn't the nominee and Gary is still in the race.

4. It's "if Gary WERE sincere". But, in actuality, if Ron Paul WERE sincere, he'd have backed Johnson the moment he entered the race.

See how that works?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

You bring up some interesting

You bring up some interesting points.

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They're probably not Gary Johnson supporters either

It's an attempt to sway Ron Paul votes to a third party candidate to maintain the rep / dem duopoly.

Yes, of course, because

Yes, of course, because voting for a third party means you love the other two parties.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Because Johnson is CFR

just like the other two

Gary Before Romney Or Obama Not Ron Paul

Voting for Garry if Ron does not run.

As a Backup Plan only

I don't believe the GJ mentions are to hurt the Paul supporters in any way. Some are only bringing it up as an alternative to a negative result in Tampa. What other choice will you have to keep the movement going all the way to the November election?
You can vote your conscience in November but it won't be recorded in anything more than your head.
Even if GJ loses, you'll still at least have numbers showing the Liberty movement.
I'm still hoping for a miracle in Tampa and that we still have a chance. I just want a plan in case things don't go our way. If it's not about the man, how do you keep the movement in contention all the way to November? Infiltrating the GOP has been a good plan and is now in place to a degree possible at this time and Tampa can't take that away.
Just think about what could happen "AFTER" Tampa should things not go our way. If the DP supporters got behind the GJ Libertarian movement, a battle would occur all the way to November with our movement in contention. You don't want Obama and you don't want Romney...So what are you going to do to keep the movement in the mainstream after Tampa?

Some of you just don't get

Some of you just don't get it. If we'be done everything we can in our states for Ron, what's the nig deal if we try to get another person on the ballot? In Maine we're just trying to get the lp on the ballot. What's the problem?

Because the Ron Paul campaign appears to be a push for Rand,

and Rand endorsed Romney, many libertarians would probably vote for Gary Johnson now.
Unfortunately, it seems that with that endorsement, apathy has returned for many again.

you can back both...

you can back both...

Ventura 2012

Good Luck to You at the Republican Convention in Tampa

From us Ron Paul supporters now backing Gary Johnson to you Ron Paul supporters going to the Republican Party convention in Tampa, good luck and best wishes.

its johnson and some paul supporters.

Most are younger and acting their age, but not to worry over this.
They will be back and in the mean time, we need to pick up more support. Please dont get mad at them. They are restless working with in a broken system. They know its ron or nothing but they are afraid now. Rand scared them.
Theyre afraid and confused its our duty to unconfuse them!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Also saw this pattern

They're trying to create a steam-valve into the Gary Johnson n0n-possibility. Wont work.

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I love fake support pieces like this

What is up with all this mass support for gary johnson?

wow he must really be catching fire


gary FAIL

Ron Paul for the Win

gary will NEVER get my vote.

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Are you saying What I wrote above is a fake

support piece? I really hope not, I dont think Gary Johnson will catch any real fire, I think supporters are being LAME and jumping ship when they should be holding on and thinking more deeply about who ROn Paul has shown us he is.

If you think what I wrote is fake you really need to get off the internet and get some fresh air cause paranoia is creepin in.

I'm not "jumping ship". No

I'm not "jumping ship". No one has to make a choice between Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. They are not running against each other in the same election.

If that changes at some point in the future, which I find somewhat unlikely (GJ will bow out when Paul gets nominated) then you can make your judgment. Until then, I like both candidates, and I for one am glad there is a choice between two individuals, NEITHER of which is evil!

Maybe because...

Gary's platform is very similar to Ron's and he actually believes in the message unlike some pretenders.

What's disturbing is people haven't learnt their lesson. "Nobody except Ron Paul" they shout.. Which is fine on the surface, but what if another candidate comes along who shares all the same ideals and is passionate about them. Do we ignore them because they aren't Ron Paul? Remember, it's the message not the messenger.. And although I feel Ron is truly inspirational and should be President, if he doesn't make it for whatever reason, you shouldn't go away and skulk, we need to find somebody else who will run for office with these same values and beliefs.

And personally I don't think Rand is the man for that job. I would take the eloquent Tom Woods over Rand any day.

I know women who were so

I know women who were so picky about their boyfriends that they ended up alone, childless and sad.

What happens when the only one who matters leaves you or just doesn't care any more?

People keep telling me how vastly different Paul and Johnson are, yet when I took the "I stand by" test, I was 98% and 96% aligned with them.

And 71% and 73% aligned with the 2-party, which proves a different point.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

Get mad all you want

It won't change shit. Gary Johnson is a fantastic candidate and I would gladly support him if Paul weren't nominated. As it is he is campaigning for liberty so why shouldn't I share what he has to say.

Get mad at Obomney. This is a waste of energy.

They are summer soldiers and

They are summer soldiers and sunshine patriots. When the going gets tough, they run the other way. But, its ok. It will weed us out so we can grow stronger. Good gardens get choked out by weeds. Let them go. We don't need them. We need the winter soldiers who will weather any storm. Those are the people who will push us toward victory in the fight for liberty.

Blessings )o(



No, it's called not being a

No, it's called not being a freaky cultist who thinks there is only one man who can do this job.