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I just thought of a brilliant idea!

This sounds crazy, but please read this and comment on what you think about this:

Just as there are blue republicans, there are red democrats. Is it possible to push our agenda through electing delegates?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if we launched a money bomb for some liberty minded democrat to run against Obama and the guy won though?

What do you guys think about changing the party through democratic conventions? I think we can and it would shock the msm and the establishment politicians.



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Control our own opposition

In the Congressional races, U.S. and state, we could put someone up on the Dem side, while also putting someone up on the Republicans. If they both win their primaries, we are guaranteed a win.

This gets easier when one of our people are incumbent.

Dan O'Connor running for a

Dan O'Connor running for a seat in New York is a great liberty Democrat.

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not enough time this year but definitely need to find liberty D

Kucinich was great, but he trips over himself being socialist.

he also caved in on obamacare, even after he well understood it was just a corporate handout.

so, like, a fiscally conservative kucinich with more integrity, and a clue.

even alan 'knuckle-dragging' grayson and bernie 'socialist' sanders were awesome allies during first round of audit the fed waves.

We need to be everywhere

Our only allegiance is to Liberty.

To be realistic, Ron's chances are slim. I'm holding out some hope, but I'm also thinking of the future and contingency planning.

Assume the main contenders for President end up being Obama and Romney.
Assume the economy keeps tanking for the next 5 months.
That would make a Romney win possible. If Romney wins this election in 2012, then he will be the incumbent in 2016. Liberty will not have a presidential candidate in the Republican party in 2016. We would have to wait until 2020 to put forth a Liberty candidate. That is 8 years away. 8 years...
We can stay in the Republican party and try to get Liberty candidates into other positions of government. Or, we can jump ship and try to get into the Democratic party. Getting into the Democratic party has a couple tactical advantages.

We'd be able to push a Liberty candidate in 2016.

General voters seem to care more about social issues than economic issues, so we can inject fiscal responsibility into their social tolerance. That seems easier than injecting fiscal responsibility AND social tolerance into the Republican party.

Or, we can stay in the Republican party, and just vote for whomever is the strongest liberty backer with an actual spine from any party.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

The root of the idea is good and sound

We do need to extend our influence into both parties to maximize the electing of constitutional candidates. Once we can get enough foot-soldiers in DC and at the state level we can abolish this two party system and have a real Republic.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

Yes this is another piece of the puzzle

We need democrats to move their ideas closer to ours.

Time to use the two pronged attack to help us.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

I wish you would have started this...

back in January.

On a side note, the Democratic Party has rules in place to make this extremely difficult. They have a rule called "Presidential Candidate Right of Review" that allows presidential candidates veto rights at different stages of the process on delegates that they don't feel are legitimate supporters. That puts the kaibosh on a significant part of the stealth delegate strategy.

What about delegates?

Does the process work much like the GOP's has? Can people still be delegates? If so, the party platform can be changed, but I guess real change may come in two years...

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similar process

yes, it works basically the same way. However, it is too late for this go around. Good plan though for the future

I don't know enough about it

I do know that the Democratic Party has a lot more delegates than the Republican Party (about twice as many). People can become delegates to the convention, but typically you need to have your candidate win primaries to get any significant number.