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Anyone know if there's a link to the document for the lawsuit

I'd like to see the Lawyers for Paul post a copy of the filing document for the lawsuit that's been mentioned. Many DP readers are skeptical and this would alleviate any doubts as to the legitimacy of the suit.




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Hey Hudson...

Did you check again today to see if the case number shows up on Pacer?
Thanks

Not sure if that will alleviate anything with respect to

the ambulance-chasing attorney, Mr. Richard C. Gilbert, whose “accomplishments” for Ron Paul include attempting to convince supporters of the presidential candidate that he “cannot win the nomination” unless all naïve delegates to the RNC become listed as plaintiffs to a “lawsuit” against their own party before the Committee on Credentials even meets.
Tell me, Mr. Gilbert, what part of the following do you feel unfairly represents your ability as an attorney (or to tell the truth, for that matter!)?

... It seems as if plaintiffs’ attorney, Richard C Gilbert, flipped through several civil rights suits and copy/pasted any constitutional-sounding rights/clauses that he could find: equal protection, due process, full faith and credit, “right to privacy”, 9th amendment “right of reservation of all rights not enumerated to the people”, right to travel, and right to free speech. I’m surprised he didn’t add the establishment clause and the right to dream in color. Mr. Gilbert also pays homage to “Vice President Cheney” by including a quote from the former VP: “Freedom means freedom for everyone.” Well, now, isn’t that nice. Mr. Gilbert also seems to have a stutter when typing as fully three paragraphs on p7 of the complaint are identical. Finally, Mr. Gilbert asks for “Costs, including but not limited to attorneys’ fees.” Obviously, Mr. Gilbert is not quite the Juridical Rock Star that Mr. Olson and Mr. Boies are. Indeed, he doesn’t even know where to file his suit as the United States had to remove the suit from Orange County Superior Court to the Southern Division of the California Central District Court.

I mentioned that I thought the plaintiffs were paying for this themselves and here’s why: On Mr. Gilbert’s website, he boasts that his “fees are half what other firms charge.” I suppose this is a good thing if he actually manages to win and the taxpayers have to pay his “costs” but does one really want a “discount lawyer” arguing constitutional law and civil rights issues? It seems that this Orange County couple lost their asses in the financial market since the complaint bears a “fee waiver pending” notation. Perhaps he charged his clients the filing fee but is choosing to keep it for himself by asking for a waiver. I do hope that the plaintiffs are receiving a discount for each typo that is present in the complaint as there are many.

So we know that Mr. Gilbert produces a less than stellar product and that his clients are either poor or getting ripped off BUT let’s talk about the firm. Mr. Gilbert appears to be a partner at Santa Anna[sic]‘s “Gilbert & Marlowe, we’re a different kind of law firm.” Well, yes, you are! Gilbert’s “skilled Orange County attorneys have more than 100 years of combined experience, including working on numerous precedent-setting cases in family law, same-sex marriage, medical marijuana usage, and others.” All two of them listed in the attorney profiles?!? Moreover, Gilberts’ attorneys have been “NAMED ‘BEST LAWYERS IN AMERICA’ by Harvard Law School Graduates.” I’m glad to know though that “money shouldn’t stand in the way of getting the help you need.*” (“*Conditions do apply”)

And how about Mr. Gilbert, the man? He’s a real peach born way back in 1951 in NY, NY! Mr. Gilbert’s practice is limited to “100%” litigation in the areas of “Constitutional Law, Criminal Law, Custody & Visitation, Family Law, Personal Injury — Defense, Personal Injury — Plaintiff [and] Toxic Torts.” Mr. Gilbert received his degree from “Western State University College of Law” in Fullerton, California way back in 1977 and was admitted to the CA bar in 1979 (SBN 85912). Is it just me or does it seem that Mr. Gilbert might have had to sit the bar exam more than once? Mr. Gilbert also lists education at Whittier College School of Law, Los Angeles, California but doesn’t describe what or when he might have studied there. You might have noticed my emphasis on “way back” and thought, “What is the Rascal doing?”

Well, I checked the Internet Archive Wayback Machine to see how Mr. Gilbert’s website might have changed over the years and to see if I could glean anything further about him. The most recent page archive listed was May 2006: Interestingly, I noted the following differences 1) between 2006 and 2009, the firms “collective experience” grew from “90″ to “more than 100 years.” 2) between 2006 and 2009, “constitutional law” moved up in prominence in Mr. Gilbert’s practice areas 3) in Dec 2004, Mr. Gilbert listed his education as “Harvard Law School (PIL)” but that is no longer listed in 2009…hmmm. Let’s look at that a little more closely. Quick! Google. It seems “PIL” indicates he may have attended the “Program for Instruction of Lawyers” 4) Waaayyyyybaaack, as far as the wayback machine goes in this case. Jul 2003. A very quickly scrolling, somewhat nauseating, line of text tells me that Gilbert and Marlowe have been criminal defense and family law “attorneys for 24 years”, which jives with graduating in 1979 as both he and his partner, Diana Marlowe, did. Hmmmm….6 years further down the road to 2009 and suddenly we move from 48 years (24 each) to “more than 100 years.” Doesn’t 48 +12=60? Must have been that light speed scrolling text that altered time.

Well, enough with the discrepancies already. I’ve proved to myself that Mr. Gilbert misrepresents both his education and experience. In addition, he likely overestimates his areas of competency. Just because you CAN practice constitutional law in the area of same-sex marriage doesn’t mean you SHOULD! I’m certain that ambulance chasing is great for Personal Injury suits, but I think Mr. Gilbert should leave suits like Smelt to the good Ol-Boies.

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Interesting

Is this your own research or did you find it?

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

I found a State of California internal court document,

where he listed himself down as an alumni of Harvard Law School.
While attempting to verify that fact (he attended an open “summer workshop”), I found the above, here, and also this:

Meddling Lawyers Continue To Roil GLBT Legal Strategy
Do you even want to hear about the maniacs that persist in challenging federal marriage law in Orange County? I don’t know what’s going on in the minds of the two gay guys who have brought this lawsuit. But their attorney is an ambulance chaser named Richard C. Gilbert who lists “Harvard Law School (PIL)” under “education” on his (now defunct) Web site. Know what PIL stands for? It stands for “Program of Instruction for Lawyers,” which is a series of summer lectures and workshops that are open to anyone. Gilbert actually graduated from Middle of Nowhere Law School, (Western State University in Fullerton, to be exact), and his yellow page ads herald his rates as “half the price” of other lawyers. The cheap creep has plowed into federal court in Southern California like a bull in a china shop, and as of last week, the dumbo managed to lose a challenge to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. Shall we put “alleged” dumbo? No, because we read his inept legal brief at some point last year and while we’re not going to dig it out, we recall that Mr. Gilbert is not one of the legal profession’s brightest lights. Anyway, thank you Mr. G., for a 33-page published federal court ruling upholding DOMA, which if I’m not mistaken, is only the second such opinion on record. (The first was thanks to Ellis Rubin in Florida, another loose cannon who had gay and lesbian lawyers practically on their knees begging him to pull the plug on his various litigious projects in the Sunshine State. To his credit, he did not appeal his federal loss.) In our latest gratuitous defeat, Judge Gary Taylor dismissed the idea that same-sex couples have a fundamental right to marriage like everyone else, and (after applying the lowest possible standard of review) determined that a public interest in the context of procreation was enough to justify the section of DOMA that defines marriage as a heterosexual status for all federal purposes. And how did Gilbert react? Why, he announced immediate plans to appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, where he risks turning a bad result into an all-out disaster!

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Here is another thread hijacked

to advertise the effort to collect as much information as possible about Ron Paul delegates. All delegate info collected will be made available to the RNC, and from there to every establishment GOP hack who wants to know the identities of our delegates.

The Ron Paul campaign has asked that such information not be divulged before the convention.

The Texas State Organizer for the Paul Campaign has recently pleaded not to give out information on Ron Paul delegates:

http://www.dailypaul.com/239122/important-from-paul-campaign...

Is anyone listening??

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

That is wrong nameless organizers? LOL

I've posted RONPAULDELEGATES.COM too many times.

Ron Paul Delegates gives ALL the information you need about RON PAUL DELEGATES and there is NOTHING at all about stealth, and for a very good reason.

Urgent message below is BOGUS!

BOGUS!lol
and amusing

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

That's what I got from the attorneys

tell them. I'm only posting what informatrion I have. All you seem to have is opinion, no fact.

DEBUNKED

Paul campaign said not to divulge.

DEBUNKED, but thanks for your response.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Provide a link

Thank you

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The organizer's name is

Jeremy Blosser. Try this thread for more info:

http://www.dailypaul.com/223152/tarrant-county-texas-delegat...

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

This URGENT message is for

This URGENT message is for ToolsForJustice members who are part of the
federal civil voting rights lawsuit being filed today. If you are not one
of these people, we still appreciate you as a member very much; you may
ignore the main part of this message in that case. However, please review
the information at the bottom of this message.

IF YOU ARE PART OF THIS LAWSUIT, PLEASE READ THE REST OF THIS E-MAIL IN ITS
ENTIRETY.

This is being sent through our e-mail system to all members so we make sure
everyone is contacted, and no one gets missed.

++++

If you posted your testimony we again thank you for your testimony.

Also, do you also wish to be a plaintiff in this case? If so, YOU NEED TO
TELL US SO at the top of your testimony, or e-mail us to let us know.

Being a plaintiff provides you with “litigation privileges” that protect
you from legal injury that is not afforded those who just provide testimony
in an affidavit. It also will have more influence on the judge hearing the
case.

If you wish to be a plaintiff, would you please tell us so in your
testimony in order to add you to the federal complaint, and INCLUDE YOUR
NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER AND E-MAIL AT THE TOP of your affidavit?

Here is wording we would ask you to ADD TO THE TOP of your affidavit:

“I wish to be a plaintiff in this case. I so declare under penalty of
perjury that the following is true and correct and that I would so testify
in a court of law if called as a witness:”

Please do this IMMEDIATELY so we don't have to call you to get your
permission to be a plaintiff. As you can imagine this will save us
tremendous time in light of the fact that we have OVER A HUNDRED
individuals to contact to retrieve this information.

++++

We have also provided you with a copy of the FAQ document we are now
distributing through the Internet to help people learn more about this
civil lawsuit. You may also watch a video regarding these FAQ's at
http://bit.ly/ElectionFraudRemedy that may be helpful.

We ask ALL MEMBERS to distribute this information to everyone you know so
that we can reach all delegates and alternate delegates who have been
injured in this matter. Our goal is that we have free, open, and honest
elections, which is a noble cause that every American should wish to see
accomplished through our efforts. These are the kinds of efforts that
ToolsForJustice supports and our members believe in.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Regards,

David Callihan
Hope Henley
LAWYERS FOR RON PAUL Operations
support@toolsforjustice.com
http://electionfraudremedy.com
http://toolsforjustice.com
229-393-2912 cell
850-417-8543 work

http://www.ElectionFraudRemedy.com

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No protection against GOP dirty tricks

"Being a plaintiff provides you with “litigation privileges” that protect you from legal injury that is not afforded those who just provide testimony in an affidavit. It also will have more influence on the judge hearing the case."

This only protects participants against legal action for statements made during the litigation process. This provides no protection at all against GOP dirty tricks before or during the convention.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

So?

I joined the GOP. I have one of 21 seats in my county as a Republican on a central committee, there whould be 21 , but too many people under the influence of MSM rather than DR Paul is WHY we have no protection.

The neocons on my GOP play dirty tricks on me, and I stick to Ron paul's principles, which are now mine, in MY party.

I AM THE GOP

Why aren't YOU?

GoodSamaritan's picture

Try thinking this through

It's too late this election cycle. The convention is two months away. Is the court going to bump this case to the head of the line and put a rush on it?

Even if there is a court order in our favor, it's not going to stop the establishment from doing what it's been doing between now and the convention. Any laws broken that impede Ron Paul delegates will likely take months to litigate.

There is no need to file a lawsuit to get a court to state what the law already protects. Delegates can vote for whoever they want. This isn't just a waste of time at this point - it puts a bullseye on any currently stealth Ron Paul delegates who join this suit.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

call them for yourself. Walk the wal

I am a Republican, I am seated on a Republican Central Committee. I am the GOP. I KNOW what they do, why they do, who does it. I've been a victim. I am named as a delegate. THERE IS NOTHING STEALTH ABOUT ME AND THERE WON'T BE I am not ashamed, I am not afraid,

You have issues. I doubt you're a republican, I know you are not a delegate for Ron Paul. Stop the fearmongering. Walk the walk so you don't talk yourself into being afraid of REPUBLICANS LIKE ME for nothing.

CIVIL
RIGHTS
LAWSUIT
FAQ’S
1.
Q:
Why
is
this
lawsuit
necessary?
A:
We
are
preparing
this
lawsuit
for
our
legal
and
physical
protection.
We
have
overwhelming
evidence
that
the
voting
rights
of
Ron
Paul
Republican
delegates
and
voters,
as
well
as
those
of
other
Republican
presidential
candidates,
have
been
violated
by
nearly
every
state
GOP
party
and
the
RNC
during
the
2012
primary
election
phase.
The
patterns
of
abuse
have
devolved
to
those
of
an
organized
criminal
enterprise
with
utter
and
blatant
disregard
for
any
rule
of
law.
As
time
marches
on
in
anticipation
of
the
national
convention,
the
severity
of
abuse
is
escalating.
We
need
to
take
legal
action
to
enforce
our
rights
and
to
protect
ourselves
from
further,
more
serious
abuse.
Without
this
lawsuit,
the
pattern
of
abuse
is
guaranteed
to
get
much
worse,
to
the
extent
that
the
delegates
who
attend
the
national
convention
will
be
subjecting
themselves
to
the
risk
of
legal
peril
and
Ron
Paul
will
be
guaranteed
to
lose
the
nomination
without
our
legal
intervention.
2.
Q:
What
immediate
remedy
are
we
seeking
with
this
lawsuit?
A:
We
are
seeking
a
declaratory
statement
and
protective
order
that
states
unequivocally
that
“all
delegates
from
every
state
are
unbound
and
free
to
vote
their
conscience
at
state
and
national
conventions,
and
any
attempt
to
coerce,
intimidate
or
threaten
delegates
under
color
of
law,
in
violation
of
Title
42
USC
Section
1971
will
be
harshly
legally
punished.”
Without
this
statement
and
order,
we
are
guaranteed
to
have
escalated,
dangerous
chaos
and
turmoil
at
conventions
along
with
continued
violations
of
our
voting
rights.
3.
Q:
What
does
federal
law
state
about
the
protection
of
voting
rights
and
“unbound”
delegate
status?
A:
The
applicable
law
for
the
core
focus
of
the
lawsuit
is
found
under
Title
42
USC
Section
1971(b),
which
states:
“Intimidation,
threats,
or
coercion
No
person,
whether
acting
under
color
of
law
or
otherwise,
shall
intimidate,
threaten,
coerce,
or
attempt
to
intimidate,
threaten,
or
coerce
any
other
person
for
the
purpose
of
interfering
with
the
right
of
such
other
person
to
vote
or
to
vote
as
he
may
choose,
or
of
causing
such
other
person
to
vote
for,
or
not
to
vote
for,
any
candidate
for
the
office
of
President,
Vice
President,
presidential
elector,
Member
of
the
Senate,
or
Member
of
the
House
of
Representatives,
Delegates
or
Commissioners
from
the
Territories
or
possessions,
at
any
general,
special,
or
primary
election
held
solely
or
in
part
for
the
purpose
of
selecting
or
electing
any
such
candidate.”
Pertinent
Case
Law:
Title
42
USC
Section
1971

Voting
rights
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1971
Title
42
USC
Section
1983

Civil
action
for
deprivation
of
rights
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983
11
CFR
§
100.2

Election
(2
USC
431(1))
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/100.2
47
CFR
§
64.803

Definitions
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/64.803
Morse
v.
Republican
Party
of
Virginia
517
US
186
(1995)
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/517/186/
4.
Q:
Why
are
we
asking
delegates
to
participate
in
this
lawsuit?
A:
For
the
sake
of
a
focused
immediate
strategy
of
this
lawsuit,
we
are
primarily
seeking
state
and
national
delegates
and
alternate
delegate
plaintiffs
to
participate.
Due
to
the
egregiously
unfair
treatment
from
the
RNC
and
the
majority
of
state
GOP
parties,
regardless
of
their
individual
personal
experiences,
all
Ron
Paul
Republican
delegates
have
been
significantly
disenfranchised
and
the
value
of
each
of
their
votes
has
been
significantly
diminished.
It
is
likely
that
delegates
supporting
other
presidential
candidates
may
also
have
been
violated.
Additionally,
many
Ron
Paul
delegates
have
personally
experienced
criminal
violations
and
they
have
a
duty
to
take
legal
action
when
they
have
been
informed
of
criminal
misconduct.
The
time
sensitive
remedy
we
are
seeking
will
directly
affect
their
ability
to
participate,
and
vote,
in
upcoming
conventions.
5.
Q:
Haven’t
others
(non-­delegates)
also
been
violated?
A:
Yes,
the
scope
of
violations
is
much
more
inclusive
and
far-­‐reaching
than
the
violations
committed
against
the
delegates.
We
are
also
preparing
a
RICO
lawsuit
to
address
many
of
the
general
election
fraud
violations
that
have
occurred
against
all
American
voters.
The
less
urgent
RICO
lawsuit
will
be
filed
later.
6.
Q:
Will
there
be
any
legal
ramifications
or
risks
for
witnesses
and
plaintiffs
in
submitting
evidence
and
joining
this
lawsuit?
A:
Many
delegates
have
voiced
their
concerns
about
retaliation
by
the
state
GOP
or
RNC
if
they
participate
in
this
lawsuit,
such
as
being
stripped
of
delegate,
or
executive
member
status
or
being
named
in
another
suit
as
a
defendant.
These
concerns
are
false
and
unfounded.
In
fact,
the
opposite
is
true.
Active
witnesses
and
plaintiffs
actually
can
expect
much
greater
legal
protections
referred
to
as
“litigation
privileges”
granted
under
Constitutionally
protected
rights
to
due
process.
With
“litigation
privileges,”
you
will
have
greater
immunity,
and
your
delegate
or
executive
member
status,
and
your
right
to
vote
as
an
unbound
delegate
will
have
the
extra
protection
from
the
courts.
As
a
party
to
this
lawsuit,
any
attempt
to
violate
your
rights
will
be
closely
scrutinized,
and
more
harshly
punished
than
if
you
are
not
a
party
to
the
suit.
All
delegates
are
obligated
to
take
legal
action
when
they
have
been
informed
of
criminal
misconduct.
7.
Q:
What
negative
consequences
might
happen
if
we
lose
our
lawsuit?
A:
In
general,
none.
All
witnesses
and
plaintiffs
will
be
granted
“litigation
privileges”
and
will
have
greater
immunity
and
extra
protection
from
the
courts.
In
fact,
this
lawsuit
provides
legal
protection
from
further
civil
rights
violations
and
the
risk
of
legal
peril.
8.
Q:
What
will
happen
if
we
don’t
file
our
lawsuit?
A:
If
we
do
not
file
this
lawsuit
we
are
guaranteed
to
suffer
further,
more
egregious
violations
without
legal
recourse.
Again,
this
lawsuit
provides
legal
protection
from
further
civil
rights
violations
and
the
risk
of
legal
peril.
9.
Q:
What
will
it
cost
to
participate
in
the
lawsuit?
A:
This
case
is
being
developed
pro
bono,
with
no
litigation
fees
being
charged
to
any
witnesses
or
plaintiffs.
10.
Q:
Shouldn’t
we
wait
to
give
our
state
GOP
party
(or
the
RNC)
another
chance
to
correct
their
misconduct?
A:
NO!!
We
urgently
need
your
immediate
support
to
help
us
document
testimonies
as
evidence
in
support
of
our
case.
More
witnesses,
plaintiffs
and
evidence
will
build
a
stronger
case
and
result
in
more
protection
for
us
all.
There
is
NO
reason
whatsoever
to
expect
the
RNC
or
state
GOP
parties
to
comply
with
the
law
after
they
have
openly
threatened
and
injured
Ron
Paul
Republican
delegates.
Expecting
fair
treatment
without
enforcing
the
law
amounts
to
insanity
(expecting
different
results
from
the
same
continued
actions).
11.
Q:
What
steps
do
we
need
to
take
to
participate?
A:
To
be
part
of
this
effort,
please
go
to:
http://www.ElectionFraudRemedy.com
and
become
a
FREE
member.
After
joining,
Login
and
go
to
“Forums”
to
submit
your
testimony
on
our
PRIVATE/SECURE
forum
according
to
the
state
or
territory
in
which
you
live.
Start
by
providing
your
contact
information.
Please
indicate
if
you
are
interested
in
acting
as
a
plaintiff.
Then
simply
tell
your
story,
including
as
much
specific
detail
as
you
can
remember.
We
will
review
your
information
and
assist
you
in
preparing
you
affidavit
if
necessary.
We
will
provide
all
legal
services
free
of
charge.
12.
Q:
What
can
we
do
to
support
this
effort?
A:
Please
share
this
information
far
and
wide
with
everyone
and
anyone
who
may
have
been
violated!
For
more
information
contact:
561-­747-­8496
/
850-­417-­8543
http://www.ElectionFraudRemedy.com

GoodSamaritan's picture

You don't know jack about me

What I know about you is that you continue insisting that all delegates reveal their identities as soon as possible despite the fact that the Ron Paul campaign and at least one state organizer for the campaign has requested that not be done.

This lawsuit can't possibly accomplish anything in time to prevent harm to delegates between now and the convention. What it is certain to accomplish is giving the RNC, the Romney campaign, and every GOP thug in every state an ID list of all Ron Paul delegates who sign up.

Just because you are able to work through the process unscathed in your district doesn't mean every other delegate who gets involved will get a pass from GOP dirty tricks and assaults.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

I know you're twisting what I am saying

I'm not suggesting any delegate reveal their identity, I;m saying THE CAMPAIGN HAS TOLD THEM EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, and they don't need non -republicans or non-delegates telling them to go "stealth" on Daily Paul.
One organizer, who shall not be named, is one organizer that is working against the campaign and should be outted?

This is about INTEGRITY and getting the message out. Not being stealth.

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You're projecting

You don't know what party or parties I am or have ever been affiliated with. You don't know if I'm a delegate. As I said, you don't know jack about me. Although if you went back through several years of my messages on DP you might learn that I'm a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy. You might learn that I have grown children. You could probably learn a few other things about me, too. Like the fact that my record reflects a devotion to supporting the Liberty movement.

You're right that the campaign has told delegates exactly what to do - not to reveal their identities before the convention - and that's exactly what I've been saying as well.

I'm not trying to stir your pot, I'm trying to point out the potential downside of this. Do as you please. I hope it works out. But I disagree with the rosy picture being painted that nothing can go wrong.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

That is not what the campaign has said

Delegates for Ron Paul www.ronpauldelegates.com is updated everyday. You can go there and read all about being a delegate for texas. Nowhere does it say for delegates to not reveal themselves.

What a wonderful background you have, Bravo to you.

You are still incorrect, confusing a nameless oganizer with the campaign. Whoever is stealth got word from the campaign and they do not need to hear it on Daily paul where it is confusing for those who don't know the whole truth, which efveryone can find on delegates for Ron Paul,, just click the Texas icon.

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I'll stick with the Ron Paul campaign for advice

Your confusion is in thinking that www.ronpauldelegates.com = the Ron Paul campaign. I think I'll stick with the Ron Paul campaign when it comes to strategy. Hopefully you'll understand if I take Doug Wead's recommendation over yours.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

GoodSamaritan, the granger is

GoodSamaritan, the granger is a Romney plant, do not interact with him, he is trying to supply a hit list to the Romney campaign. If he does this anymore I will talk to Mike about kicking him off here!
Granger is in CA, he has absolutely NOTHING to do with Texas, but he is ate up with trying to reveal our delegates! I have explained the situation to him at least 10 times, he just is totally oblivious, he is either an extremely dangerous anti-Paul plant, or a totally stupid nincompoop! either way he is not worth the waste of time dealing with him. He has NOTHING to reveal, do not give him ANY info!

Doug Wead?

So, it's not a organizaer now it's Doug Wead?

Doug Wead said nothing, there was hearsay posted, but Doug Wead did not tell delegates to go stealth.

It's not the flash in the pans the campaign is concerned about, it's those like me who are not only delegates, but ran for a seat and won that seat and now have a committment for two years.

I'm well aware what dirty tricks MY PARTY is pulling on Ron paul Republicans like myself. I also know how the campaign operates because I'm a team leader in CA, which lost, the 172 Romney delegates will be going to Tampa.. none of us would be stealth. My name is still listed on the CA Sec of State page.

The fearmongering here needs to stop, Maybe Doug Wead doesn't agree, and I'd live to see that. Thank you and God Bless you for giving a damn.

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Doug doesn't agree

He didn't use the word "stealth" but it was clear from this warning in his May 19 blog report that delegates should keep their support for Ron Paul to themselves:

"Meanwhile, there is evidence of a full scale purge of any Ron Paul delegate, from any state, to the RNC. If you are a delegate, keep your head down. They are looking for you."

I am trying to locate the name of the Texas State Organizer I referenced but more important is the senior adviser's comment above.

And what's up with the "MY PARTY" stuff? I have voted for Ron Paul more than once. What party or parties would allow me to do that?

I'm sure you're doing what you think is best for the Liberty Movement so keep up the good fight.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

I'm a Republican. Republican Party is my party

I am a Ron Paul Republican. I qualified for a seat on the Mendocino County Republican Central Committee district 4, name is B. B. Grace, and I am registered as a Ron Paul delegate with the CA Sec. of State.

Not all delegates are stealth, very few are.

Unfortunately, all thsi stealth talk, convinced a man to show up to my central committee meeting saying he was supporting Romney.

By the end of the meeting he admitted he was for Ron Paul. All his "stealth" stuff did is give the Chair and vice chair (who I have caught in so many lies) ammunition to not trust him.

This "stealth" stuff is too general and doing more harm than good because our goal is to amplify Ron Paul's message. It's not just about being a delegate, it's also about getting seated and being part of a committee that establishes laws, viting NO to unconstitutional laws.

Ron paul presidency is futile without people backing him.

In a county os huge as mine, I'm the only one, and this guy, who didn't petition and qualify, so he has to beg them for a seat. They don't like Romney either.

Allot of people posting about stealth are not Republicans, are not delegates, are condeming and insulting, but they are not doing the work, just fearmongering. They mean well, but those who are stealth have been advised directly. The campaign is very direct. I did not get any information about what we were doing from Daily Paul. Daily Paul is not connected with the campaign and no stealth delegate is coming hear to learn about being stealth.

That's why to me, all this stealth stuff on Daily Paul is fearmongering, and back firing as it did to the man who showed up to my last meeting. Nice man... but do I trust him? No more than they do, and that's a shame. What happened to the "I am Ron Paul" and to take a seat openly... yes, they attack, that's why there are law suits. There should be. Nothing is legal aboout my Republican Central Committee.. never has aq quorum. But we can't fix it if we lie and cheat like they do.

Every state is different.. Ron paul campaign selected their 172 delegates, Romney picked his, election says who gets to go.

GoodSamaritan, the granger is

GoodSamaritan, the granger is a Romney plant, do not interact with him, he is trying to supply a hit list to the Romney campaign. If he does this anymore I will talk to Mike about kicking him off here!
Granger is in CA, he has absolutely NOTHING to do with Texas, but he is ate up with trying to reveal our delegates! I have explained the situation to him at least 10 times, he just is totally oblivious, he is either an extremely dangerous anti-Paul plant, or a totally stupid nincompoop! either way he is not worth the waste of time dealing with him. He has NOTHING to reveal, do not give him ANY info!

Talk to Mike

Please

STFU POS

STFU POS

you're stalking me

didn't you post this?
Submitted by Walty on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 23:27. Permalink
I can see how you are still completely oblivious to what's going on, y'all do it completely different in CA. In Texas it is actually against the rules for anyone to demand that a delegate tell them which candidate they support. We elect delegates, who they support is deemed irrelevant BY THE RULES of the establishment. If we abide by THEIR rules (which we are doing) and keep quiet about it, there will be NO blowback, if we are arrogant and brag, some of us are sure that "they" will go beyond what is legal and moral to try to keep us from being seated in Tampa. We are not lying, we are following THEIR rules every step of the way. You have no idea what's going on outside of CA, and it really doesn't concern you, so I am through discussing this with you. Since you have no information to leak (thankfully!) you can do whatever you want! PLEASE ignore any further posts or comments from me as you are way too dense to deal with. I have always said that Ron Paul supporters are some of the most intelligent people ever, you prove that there is an exception to every rule, good day sir!

I leftt you alone.. now hewre you are calling me names and telling me what to do.

No delegates get their information here. NONE OF THEM