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Adam Kokesh responds to Jack Hunter

Adam responds to Jack Hunter. You don't want to miss this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6S43OLuUwU

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I was waiting for him to

I was waiting for him to scream, "THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!"

I agree. Adam pretty much

I agree. Adam pretty much summed up how I feel about this whole Rand issue. If you want to compromise then go ahead, but i'm not going to nor will I back you, period.

Ron Paul has my full support and some of us will continue our take over without compromise. To the people that do feel it's ok to play the "game" with a party to get ahead then good for you, but i'm not going that way and the majority of the supporters I know won't either. I don't play nice with enemies. Liberty and nothing less!

Jack Hunter

has more credibility and has been around a lot longer promoting Dr. Paul than Adam.

Anyone who isn't aware of the HUGE influence Hunter has had over the past 5 years simply hasn't been paying attention.

Kokesh is like Al Jones...bound to bite the movement in the azz at the most opportune time.

There's a reason the campaign distanced itself. I'll put their judgement over the noobs bashing Hunter.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

I think that the problem with

I think that the problem with both Jack and Adam, especially Jack, is that their views never get challenged. I never see the one-on-one debating with someone with different, if not opposing, views. They get entrenched and don't THINK about their viewpoints, which leads to a kind of absolutism.

One kind of example of this, is Jack's recent video where he slams the "Amazing Atheist" for saying Ron Paul supported segregation on the basis of states's rights, like George Will.

Jack kind of put words into AA's mouth. Jack said that AA was saying that George Will was a states's rightist and a pro-segregationalist, so Ron Paul, who is a states's rightist, must be a pro-segregationlist.

Had AA actually meant that, it would have been a ridiculous fallacy and easy to tear down, which Jack went on to do. But AA's point was that Ron Paul is a pro-segregationalist, because he used (could still be) to be a pro-segregationalist. Not at all on a personal level, but Ron Paul, coming from the same position as Barry Goldwater, has always maintained that there is no authority in the Constitution for the federal government to dictate to the states that they must integrate. Unlike Wallace, Ron Paul does support the integration of federal endeavours like the national guard, military, administrators, etc.

But Jack just never addresses this point, because he is a Ron Paul lover and Ron Paul can do no wrong according to him...

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Just because you may not like

Just because you may not like Adam doesn't mean he doesn't have sound rebuttals about the endorsement.

Jack Hunter has his opinions and Adam has another set. I like listening to both for the contrast. Perspective...

Also people's obsession on the time commitment to an agenda is getting old. Time served to an organization does not make you any better than a person coming into the organization. There are plenty of people who are corrupted or become complacent with time.

It's not that i don't "like" Adam

I just think he may become a liability. He certainly changed dramatically in the past few years. Just worried about him becoming a liability because of some of his antics.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

On the bright side,

maybe all this will weed out the nutcase anarchists like Kokesh from the next campaign, then we won't have to deal with them next time around.

RAND PAUL 2016.

Kokesh

Needs to spend less time vilifying others and more time being constructive and productive.

Well said.

I was quite interested in the videos of his I was introduced to a month back.. but he and Alex really lost sight of the end goal when they jumped into this Rand issue with knives out.

I'm just interested to see whether they continue on the path they set out on, or try to quietly slip back into line now that the storm is passing, and try pass themselves off as unwavering supporters again.

In a matter of days

The Liberty Movement has split into two parties. The Purists and Pragmatists.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Either way, anyone remotely resembling megalomaniac qualities should be taken with a grain, IMHO.

You are free to disagree, of course.

I think you are correct

it's a very observant comment.

Debbie's picture

Agreed. Interesting point.

You may be right.

Debbie

I hope I am wrong

Some advice, and I'll take it myself: Learn for yourself and don't form any opinions based solely on what an internet talkshow host has to say, even if they are railing against the establishment, which is a good thing (usually).

Perhaps, when we remember to again start thinking for ourselves, as independents and free thinkers, keeping in mind how freedom can improve the lives of Americans. Not "siding up" with one mouthpiece or another (even if you do agree with them), stop holding grudges, having a little grace for those we disagree with, especially when in reality we all here mostly agree with each other on the issues, and realizing that simply revolting against the system doesn't work even if it is profound and inspiring (e.g. Ron Paul 1988, then his decision to run "Republican" these last two elections), and instead continuing the broader revolution beyond this election from the ground up... maybe we can finally put the real disappointment behind us... not Rand or Jack or Jessie, but that Ron Paul won't be our next president. To me, those that are mouthing off right now, can't see the forest for the trees. That, and they have some growing up to do.

From the heart.

megalomaniac:

In no order...

1.Jesse Benton
2.Rand Paul
3.Tate
4.Olsen
5.Jack Hunter
6.Tarpley

your list is awesome but missing one

Alex Jones.
i didn't make this video but, enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WkGyAqVmCk

unfortunately, it has one small mistake. about the nwo.
otherwise it's great.

Jack is on the offensive...

And it's REALLY turning me off. I am as disappointed as I could be with his smartass attacks on ANYBODY who disagrees with this "strategy."

I agree with Adam on this. In the long run, we're ALL DEAD! How long do I have to wait to ask for permission to live free! If you have to ask for permission, your NOT free! ENOUGH! Do I have to wait another 8 years! Why not 100!

I like them both.

I like the fire that Adam carries in his speech.
I like the style of southern determination that Jack exhibits.

I think they both have a lot more in common than either realizes.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

I am happy to announce that I endsorse

this video!

Adam Is Right

We don't need to cozy up to the establishment to advance are cause. We need to replace and become the establishment.

Jack Hunter and his ilk never talk about the non-interventionist foreign policy. They make the crucial error of thinking it a toxic subject, when it is actually quite the opposite.

Justin Raimondo nails it here:

"Gardner cites Jesse Benton, Paul’s campaign manager, as saying: 'You can dress in black and stand on the hill and smash the state and influence nobody, or you can realize the dynamics and the environment and get involved in the most pragmatic way to win minds and win votes and influence change. That’s what we’re trying to do.'

"This is the classic argument for a sell out. The irony is that there is nothing pragmatic about it. The American people stand shoulder to shoulder with Ron when it comes to foreign policy, as every poll has shown. The question is whom do the Paulians want to "influence" – the American people, or the very Establishment they’ve been fighting all these years? The alternative to standing on a hill and making a fashion statement isn’t selling out libertarianism’s anti-imperialist heritage: it’s making that heritage understandable and attractive to the American majority, which is already with us in spirit."

(entire article: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/02/02/can-ron-paul-b...)

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Alliance with None huh?

Well, I guess this is a pre-mature goodbye. Because we're going to have to ally with the Republican Party if we're going to get anything done.

You're a purist or you stand morally wrong.

You're a purist or you stand morally wrong

I guess, I'll have to be morally wrong

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What are you talking about?

"Jack Hunter and his ilk never talk about the non-interventionist foreign policy."

You need to pay attention and listen before spouting off and/or blindly following the opinions of others.

Jack Hunter has countless articles and videos supporting non-interventionism.
Just one: http://youtu.be/oLVlv_OP5Gw ...and another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmWfHBKTQQk

Adam Kokesh is off his rocker.

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Sorry dude

The advancement of Liberty moves forward--the way Ron and Rand approve.

Go Adam!

Jack Hunter is a hypocrite. Thank you for saying so.

I don't buy Kokesh's assertion that Jack Hunter...

...is not a liberty lover.

The quality of Kokesh's rants has slipped as the bags under his eyes have deepened. Perhaps he should give the bong a bit of a rest.

it's got to be the devil weed

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"After two puffs on a marijuana cigarette, I was turned into a bat."
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"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."- White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner, 1986

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I believe it

I think Jack hunter is fake
I'm not crazy about Adam's latest fashion statements
but hey, that's part of freedom
i'm with with him on message lately....

Front Page? Probably Never

I think this is a great video, but I'm sorry to say we will probably never see this on the front page.

Thanks Adam and thanks conalmc.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

Adam Kokesh is a crude, blathering, coarse brute.

And he's saying the exact truth. Now if only he could remake this video in Southern Avenger style.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.