Adam Kokesh Take on Jack Hunters Analysis of Rand Paul Endorsement
Submitted by Robert_C on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 16:34in
Adam Kokesh released a video that really hammers Jack Hunter about his thoughts of Rand Paul endorsment for Mitt Romney as being good for the liberty movement, Adam, thinks otherwise.
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whether you like Adam or not
he certainly pinned the tail on this Donkey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuAiKcdss1k&feature=youtu.be
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams
Who is Adam
Who does adam think he is? He gets to define the movement? And it's only open to libertarians? Really? That's news to me, since I always saw the movement as a coalition with many groups of people, all endorsing then same concept, which is to get government off their backs...
Maybe he should stick to
Maybe he should stick to dancing.
I love Rand Paul
I know this is a huge mistake he makes and he will have to live through it, to learn a lesson that integrity is worth more then any goal in life. Even the "liberty for all", cause, because that is just a mind concept, not reality, and if you make yourself a prisoner of a mind concept, that future idea that is not yet, then how can you really free others.
Integrity and uncompromised truth are always free, unprisoned and therefore a man that supports these on every step has the ability to free others, cause he is free himself.
Send love to Rand, cause his lesson is going to be a hard one and will take some time. But I'm sure he will come out of it a more courageous humanbeing.
Ron Paul.... Yes!!
"And remember, a half-truth is far more dangerous then a complete lie, because the complete lie is going to be discovered sooner or later - just a little intelligence is needed. But the half-truth is very dangerous, even intelligent people, very intellige
Nope! I'll believe it when I
Nope! I'll believe it when I see it! He betrayed his own blood guys! And not just his flesh n blood, but Dr. Ron Paul people! What a freaken moron! Maybe Adam and I are the only ones that feel this way... Idk it's crazy to me
juan maldonado
What are you talking about
No one was betrayed. This was all done with Ron's consent.
Kokesh is still mad because the campaign destroyed him..
..in their statement distancing themselves from Kokesh's wild and wacky comments regarding the assassination email he read on air.
Adam needs to chill and head off to a beach somewhere.
I liked him up until that point. Now a lot of us are afraid to back him fearing what else he might involuntarily associate to us.
It is not right that he should be the one questioning the campaign immediately following his own public scolding by them.
.
He destroyed himself.
The campaign had nothing to do with it.
Adam's right about a few things.
First, Rand and Hunter are not a part of the movement exactly. BUT, they ARE allies. So we should treat them as allies, not enemies, but not as a part of the movement either.
However, I do dislike the hateful approach Adam has started falling into for the last year or so.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
ditto
my sentiments, EXACTLY.
"However, I do dislike the hateful approach Adam has started falling into for the last year or so."
I would say that now as someone with a little more reputation among the libertarians/voluntaryists of the world, Adam's presentation has far more influence than before, simply by the growth in size of his audience.
That said, I too agree, ever since he started his daily podcasts w/exposing his own personal laundry with Jesse Benton and later with that post on religion at the "reason" atheist rally, IMO he's unnecessarily created more wedge than necessary. Though at some level, I'm sure he knew he was being provocative for purely publicity sakes.
Personally, must say, kinda miss the 'older' Adam where he came off clearly more as 'zen.'
Stylistic qualms and slightly more upped voltage in his potty mouth aside, still the overall substance of his own parsing and message hasn't changed, and in some ways more relevant than ever.
But if I had my druthers, I truly wished he didn't have to go about it in the manner he did, where he intentionally created a controversy within the R3VOLution, where and when it didn't necessarily need one.
Other than that, like all other opinions, I discern what to keep and discard. But like everything else at the end of the day, they're all simply info and opinions that will either enlighten or annoy.
Everyone's mileage, of course, may vary.
Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul
You da man Adam!
Perfectly spoken. I used to respect Jack Hunter until he got co-opted by Trygve, Rand, Benson, and Ass.[sic].
Adam rocks...
... true defender of liberty.
Jack Hunter (nice guy) was weaned on GOP milk. His party loyalty gets in the way of his senses. Poor guy can't help it. He think we can change the party. I've got news for him.
The neo-cons with enormous help from the Religious Rights has the party in a stranglehold. The neo-con pastors in these mega-churches have herded their sheeple into the inner sanctums making them believe that they are doing God's work if they keep us in check. All the neo-cons had to do to win this support was to mouth platitudes about pro-life and Israel. The fact that the Politburo despises them, hasn't even crossed their minds.
Plano TX
I left this question
maybe someone here can answer it.
I'm not a Libertarian but an Independent. This is off topic but can you tell me if the Georgia Guide stones are a monument to the Libertarians philosophy of reason, thanks?
http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-...
The Guide Stones read like a Libertarian membership pamphlet and dicated to the age of reason, what gives?
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Never seen them...
But I just read the text. That isn't even close to being libertarian. I am not sure how you got that. It's socialist, central planning, humanity hating drivel.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
It says
dedicated to "The New Age Of Reason" that sounds Libertarian to me.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
?
Because it has the name of a pseudo-libertarian magazine in one sentence?
No, all of that entire inscribed text is EXACTLY opposed to libertarianism.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
GA Guidestones was commissioned by an occult NWO gnome;
It has nothing to do with libertarianism.
Any similarity, is either the NWO minions in a pathetic attempt to claim/hijack it as they attempt to do w/ALL political movements, or are simply coincidental.
For those who are truly curious about fundamental definition of what a true "libertarian" is, and not what that socialist infrastructure statist Webster Griffin Tarpley loves to propagate and claim it is as, please refer to the "Non-Aggression Axiom" or "Non-Aggression Principle."
Or, more commonly called the NAA, or NAP.
The REAL definition of a true libertarian is, someone who upholds and lives by the principles of Non-Aggression Axiom. That no one, no individual, no group, nor govt has the right to violently initiate force against another. And, that the ONLY legitimate use of force is for purely defensive purposes, and that every human interaction is better, more peaceful, and loving, when one or more parties interact with each other consensually and voluntarily.
Pretty simple:
1. I don't hit you, you don't hit me
2. You want something, convince me with your words, not w/your gun
3. You want to share something, make an offer, then I will make a counter offer, and we'll only exchange something if we both agree on it peacefully
Last I checked limiting population to 500 million has never been part of libertarianism.
Murderously colluding/conspiring with corporatist eugenicists at the annual Bilderberg confab or via organizations like RAND Corp, CFR, Brookings Inst. to poison the biosphere and our food supply with Monsatan GMO toxins and conspiring to instigate wars via state sponsored false flag, and to press on for population reduction via eugenics and 'Ordo Ab Chao'-New World Order world govt, violate EVERY part of the Non-Aggression Axiom.
Come on, Quilting! You know this already.
But the Libertarian Party itself?
Definitely hijacked; if not, at its upper echelon hierarchy, just like the GOP and Democratic Party, are corrupt to the core.
How else could one explain the Libertarian Party nominating a neoCon like Wayne Allyn Root for VP nomination & an openly statist Bob Barr, Mr.former CIA & hypocritical philanderer for Pres. Nomination in 2008, who coincidentally just endorsed that neoCON murderous lunatic Nut Grinch for 2012??
In fact, as soon as its co-founder Murray N. Rothbard left the Libertarian Party, it all went down hill since.
What I don't get is, and frankly find it utterly surprising, is that ever since AJ and Kokesh's interview with that socialist statist fascist Webster Tarpley at Bilderberg, Chantilly, VA last week, in conjunction with Jim Tucker's source warning that the B'bergs were openly mulling harming the Pauls and the supporters, coinciding with the horrible public spectacle that is Rand's Mutt WRONGney endorsement, and 'suddenly,' the very word "libertarian" itself has become a target, at DailyPaul, no less, is beyond me.
Seriously, how is it that the very term "libertarians"/"libertarianism" can become a target at a PaleoCon/Constitutionalist to libertarian/minarchist/voluntaryist anarcho-capitalist leaning website, aka DailyPaul.com, with some who are word for word repeating Tarpley's propaganda that Mises and Hayek were SOLELY "Rockefeller Foundation frauds," and how "libertarianism" itself was a Rockefeller's creation?
Never mind that Jefferson, Lysander Spooner, and Bastiat were all libertarians/classical liberals/voluntaryists, long before the world ever heard of the Rockefellers.
Why, and how could that be?
Thought we've long parsed the dangers of Hamiltonian Tarpley's insanely fascistic PRO-Fed.Reserve centrally planned corporatist fascist econ model, long ago, like 5yrs ago??
Has Rand's announcement changed and divided us that much that libertarianism itself has now a become target at DailyPaul.com??
What's going on here?
Quite frankly, I'm shocked that of all people you Quilting would be the one raising this issue in the manner you've phrased it.
I KNOW that you've researched 9/11, false flags, NWO, Military Industrial Complex, the occult, Constitutional history, philosophy and econ to already know this.
Don't get it.
Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul
Thank you for your
reply. I may have to read it a couple times to sink in but the stones are real and it was dedicated to the AGE OF REASON and there were some other things that concerned me.
You may ask why now and I can only say that these questions have been building and thought is was a good time to ask and if anyone else could shed any light on these things I would appreciate it.
I am no genius and I depend on others and their input, I take that information and try to study to see if it answers any of my questions.
I watched the videos these last couple of days and been trying to see their perspective and what is motivating them.
I have been so disillusioned over many years of being fooled I don't consider myself anything other than INDEPENDENT. I don't really likes groups I think that is how they control us but I would never tell anyone not to join a group. I love the Daily Paul and just trying to understand how the elite control us.
I do not think it would be unheard of to control even the Libertarian Party, if they control the largest parties, why not the smallest.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
you're welcome.
"I do not think it would be unheard of to control even the Libertarian Party, if they control the largest parties, why not the smallest."
- absolutely.
I've always respected your awesome demeanor of calmness and fairness you bring to DailyPaul.
I would know because of many times I've observed you graciously choosing not to participate in a rebuttal, often times even when it was truly called for. Unfortunately, the potty-mouthed me sometimes cannot help but to get a bit mischievous, so I frankly admire your restraint, sometimes against the most virulent obnoxious trolls that drop by here to annoy you, especially now, more often than ever. Yet somehow you so graciously choose not to lower yourself to their level.
You have no idea how many here have noticed it, and obviously respect you tremendously for it.
I trust your judgment, Quilting. Please never cease seeking answers.
I frankly would recommend meditating to anyone, even if you're not of Buddhist faith. As all the noise in the mind somehow finds a place all on its own; somehow 'rearranges' the mind to find order among the noisy sea of info and disinfo and puts it all into a perspective so divinely subtle, sometimes I can't believe it's my own consciousness/mind(?) that's doing it all.
I do have to remind myself to do it more intentionally as of late, especially after the last few days.
Truly though, crazy how we were all rocked to the core, with Rand's endorsement. But in the aggregate, it's but a minor bump. We will all forge on, regardless. And as one of the front page thread proffered: "what has changed" since Friday? NOTHING.
We've all awakened individually, by individual impetus that specifically spoke to us to follow our gut.
That's not gonna change, nor can it change now, even if Dr. Paul himself said or did what maybe counter to how we understand things 'should' be.
I'm of the mind the universe ALWAYS eventually leans toward justice.
Though, certainly, the interim can suck, as we're about to crescendo into a precipice of either full-on freedom or full-on tyranny, and find out what the Universe/multi-verse's 'grand design' may be.
And midst of it all, all this recent event just compounded the reality of that sedated anxiety that runs underneath it all.
But as you've shown Quilting, I'm sure you'll find the best, the most objective observation based on your own research that will speak true to you.
I am certain of it.
So, Good info-huntin' .D
P.S. ANYONE who lives by Socratic I know that I know nothing, as you clearly demonstrated graciously time and time again, is the ONLY true genius in this world.
Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul
Labels are...
... irrelevant... libertarians (lovers and defenders of liberty), like us, stand with Ron Paul on our freedoms as protected by the Constitution. Our freedom philosophy is enshrined by the Constitution. Anything else is irrelevant. Never heard of the Georgia Guide stones.
Plano TX
You would be WISE to
research it because you will be in for a rude awakening when you discover how hard you worked only to have enslaved yourself to the elite. Freedom is not for pawns. Good luck
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Words like enshrined..
make me wonder about the intentions of the person making the post.
If you resort to the use of these types of words in a political context, you may be giving those who refer to us as a cult, energy to continue those (pathetic)"attacks".
The word shrine carries allot of religious baggage, the word enshrined is a close relative.
The words we use are important.
www.youtube.com/truefictions
I try to change people every day. Do You?
I side with Kokesh
Kokesh is right.
My latest Daily Paul article: How the U.S. Media Has Had a Big Hand in Helping Ron Paul Win the Republican Nomination
http://www.dailypaul.com/231491/how-the-us-media-has-had-a-b...
Duplicate thread
There's already a thread with this same thing by conalmc that was posted before this.
Please check for duplication before posting.
This is
definitely worth watching.