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Rand Paul Answers; The Daily Paul Interview

Senator Rand Paul joins Daily Paul Radio with Kurt Wallace for ‘Rand Paul Answers; The Daily Paul Interview’ to discuss his endorsement of Mitt Romney and to answers the questions submitted by The Daily Paul community.
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Enuff already

Now you're just repeatedly trolling the same crap.

Funny,

I don't see what he's saying as trolling. I see it as honesty. But maybe that's because I'm not trying to rationalize evil.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

An endorsement is not a compromise

The vote record is all that matters. It is the only action that has effect and bearing. You all sound like the fairweather morons back in 96 when Ron Paul, the Libertarian, ran for Congress as a Republican.

So what exactly is your problem with Rand's hemp legislation, his efforts with NDAA, the Patriot Act, and slashing the defense budget in half?

The all or nothing approach is a proven FAIL. Its politics, and you fools are making it into a moral issue. I'll be laughing when Obama the LAME DUCK, lets repeat and think about that... L-A-M-E D-U-C-K... rips an even bigger hole for you in '13. How's Rand's standing with that freak's political discourse?

The trend suggests you're gonna get a crappy prez next election - do you want the guy that summoned Rand and might actually have an ear for where he's coming from? Or do you want the Kenyan madman who makes Bush look like a angel?

...the comments here are exactly why this movement grows but goes nowhere. Idiots all.

6degrees

Saying you agree with

warmongering, civil-liberties destroying, bailout happy evil is compromising. Not sure what planet you're from.

Did the all or nothing approach fail the American revolutionaries? You're an ends justifies the means kinda guy, which means you have no principles and stand for nothing.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Go Liberty movement!

-Rand endorsed Romney, but he is according to his words in this interview still encouraging people to vote for Ron Paul in the conventions.
What kind of doublethink/doublespeak endorsement was it?
-Rand apparently thinks the liberty movement supporters will consider to vote for Romney to stop Obama.
So again the paradigm of lesser of the two evils, which unfortunately looks to him like it is still the only choice - if it is anything like a choice at all.
Let's say it how it appears: Rand could be considered as a very good ally to liberty movement from within the republican establishment with very good voting record, but clearly he isn't its adamant-principles-bearing icon - although many even considered him to assume the unique position of his father and run 2016 - he apparently wants to be independent from him (what more could tell it than an endorsement of Romney at the Hannity against his own father still running with full mouth of the "family values") and go more the way of realpolitik compromises than be the torch of liberty - and according to his own words he isn't a libertarian anyway.
I don't judge him, everybody has the way he wish or can go.
But I don't think the liberty movement supporters should buy into his compromise way of doublethinking playing-by the establishment lesser of the two evils game.
I don't agree with Rand the numbers are just about "influencing the platform" at the RNC.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a poor European, but to me it from my distant perspective very much looks that the republican supporters of Ron Paul are in the liberty movement rather a minority and its scope and goals go far beyond republican party and classical siding in the republican-democrat dichotomy.
What I want to say: I would think the Ron Paul campaign succeeded more than was ever expected by the establishment and its supporters when united now in my opinion have sufficient numbers to have Romney in an absolute deadlock - either he picks Ron Paul as vicepresident or he has no chance against Obama and will lose the election anyway - so the Rand's "with Romney against Obama appeal" thinking wouldn't work anyway if most of the people in liberty movement behind Ron Paul chose not to support it - as it very much looks like is the case.
Moreover I think Ron Paul campaign would be only a really real success if the liberty movement assumes important positions not just in the local and state GOP establishments, but in the federal executive. (There they now decide wars, not in parties, not in Congress)
Unlike Rand I think this should be the strategy to take now and gain maximum possible from this historical advantage which is unlikely it will ever repeat itself.
They should not just have a word on the republican platform and chance to a play-by of the establishment and party game - when in fact most of the liberty movement supporters aren't neither part of the establishment nor members of the republican party.
They should gain for the liberty movement its fair share of the real power and recognition.
The successful campaign strategy to take over the party and get the liberty message out using the publicity republican nomination process has should continue, but the liberty movement doesn't equal the republican party - it is something far beyond that - so far beyond, that the liberty loving people - who have had the chance to learn about it - support it all over the world. I surelly think it shouldn't let itself be closed-up in the box of the US republican party politics of compromise with the evil.

MONEY BOMB TIME AGAIN

All you young men and woman who went without so you could give to the campaign...come on, one more time!!!!! lets have a money bomb for jesse benton !!!!!!!the five hundred thousand dollar man.500 big ones Ron gave his grandson in-law is not nearly enough....MONEY BOMB FOR BENTON. All of you trolls, like me, that donated and work hard on the campaign need to donate one more time...Hey maybe Dr. compromise can get some of it as well.

serious? what did Benton do

serious? what did Benton do anyway that's got Alex Jone's lemmings so upset?

the lemming responds, sort of...

Getting some of you to relize the magnitude of the damage that Dr.compromise has done, is as difficult as getting a neocon to understand Dr. ron paul. That said. This lemming that you refer to has spent over 5 years and a total, between family members, of more than 40,000 dollars to try to get the Dr. elected. 500 thousand went to jesse benton this past year alone. nuff said.

scammed

if that's true, i'm afraid you got scammed (and big time!)

Maybe Jones found out he

Maybe Jones found out he doesn't believe 9/11 was orchestrated by the government?

maybe we found out he is a jackass.

benton, the 500,000 dollar man.

ha ha

I was thinking of posting this but bit my tongue

The only Paul that I trust...

Anymore!

As a Delegate

As a Delegate to the Convention please understand that the first words out of Rands mouth was that His First Vote was for his father. So at the convention if all the delegates understand that they are not bound to vote Romney Ron may get the nomination, However this is unlikely, which means that we must continue to fight for what we can. It is not giving up! I have not and will vote for Ron until the nominee has been chosen and push the Ron Paul platform all the way to the end. if romney gets it i will write Ron Paul in the November election.

Now if all of you Delegates please advise others to remember the first vote. and also rule 38!

Thank you twice

First for being a delegate and again for keeping us on track

This Still Does NOT Make Any Sense!


I understand Rand Paul's self-explanation, and he is good at arguing his thoughts. But this still does not make any sense:

1. Even if we accept Rand's position that Ron did not have the numbers, and that "working with Romney" helps, ...the whole --TIMING-- of this was unnecessarily early, unnecessarily public, and a clusterf**k in terms of Strategy -- given that many, many Delegates were still being fought over. Why undercut Ron Paul's Campaign, when he could have waited until Romney was officially nominated to say that he would support him?

2. Despite number 1, Ron Paul first undercut his own Campaign himself. He did this by not going after Romney, and just not trying anymore -- even as he was at the very height of his popularity, and winning States, and drawing 8000+ sized crowds. When you are still trying to fight over Delegates, and win States, and the numbers have not even been finalized -- then there is no reason on Earth to pre-emptively concede, and announce that you lost. The only way to maximize your movement, and your Campaign is to let the process play out, and go after every Delegate, and Campaign full-speed ahead, and continue to make the case hard against Romney and his record.

3. Regardless of whether The GOP Platform can be rewritten to include things like "Audit The Fed" or "getting out of Afghanistan" (doubtful), there was no rush to bury the Ron Paul Campaign, and publically Coronate Romney. In fact, this only hurts. For if instead everyone still believed that Ron Paul was Campaigning real hard, and he had not acknowledged defeat -- then this would strengthen his march towards securing Delegates, which would also strengthen the leverage that we would have regarding the "Platform" goals.

But also recall that "The Platform" is just a piece of paper, and totally non-binding. Mitt Romney has a life long record as a serial Flip-Flopper. His word or his promises mean absolutely nothing. So even if Romney and the Platform all get behind "Audit The Fed": 1) They would've anyway had Ron Paul not given up early, and 2) Romney is a Wall-Street, Bankster-picked puppet and he will not really reform anything.

So Rand's logic sounds nice, but it was self-destructive and it really makes no sense.

You must go full out, all-the-way if you want to maximize your numbers, and your position. An unnecessarily early, and unnecessarily public concession accomplishes absolutely nothing, and just hurts your cause.

And in truth, Mitt Romney and his Financiers are not going to be converted regardless.



Rand 1-up'd Lebron

James's trade "announcement". Didn't think anyone was capable of doing that, but Rand proved me wrong.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Amen, Amen & Amen to LIbertyBaby - 3 Thumbs UP

People, please read what LibertyBaby wrote. What does this puppet, like all the other self-serving kleptomaniacs of the NWO overlords, have in common with ANY of Ron Paul's beliefs?

Amen

If I could give this 2 thumbs up I would!

The GOP needs Paul supporters to win and they know it, and so do you Rand

TIMING man, what are you talking about Rand, so now you are the one announcing that your Father has conceded!? huh? did I miss something?

What this movement really needs

is someone with massive balls like Nigel Farage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ElFN77nkg&feature=colike

Who isn't afraid to speak truth directly to power, and won't get in bed with evil in a (hopeless) attempt to achieve liberty.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Farage simply rocks

stays true and tells it like it is. He is never "politically correct"

"This isn't what the govern meant"

"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"

I love to listen to that guy.

I love to listen to that guy.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" -Jebediah Springfield

DR COMPROMISE

Dr. Compromise betrayed the movement. He has done more to divide us than all of fox cnn abc cbs msnbc combined. O'rielly is really laughing at us now..... thanks Dr. Compromise.

Carol's Take on Rand's endorsement

I think Rand was wrong, but it should be clear from the interview that he is sincere in his attempt to help the liberty movement.

I think Carol is saying the same as me.

http://runronpaul.com/endorsements/carol-paul-speaks-about-r...

With friends like Dr. compromise

Who needs neocons?

I think everyone here is missing the point....

It doesn't matter what Rand does or doesn't do. Rand is willing to sacrifice his principles in the name of "strategy" that's on him. We do not have to follow suit.

I don't care if Ron Paul himself is on the ticket with Romney (highly unlikely). The VP has zero influence or any real power. Most are a walking punchline for late night talk shows.

Romney is ultimately going to lose in November by the greatest margin in the history of the presidency. He garners zero enthusiasm or any real support, let alone a grassroots campaign. No real Liberty Movement/GOP 2.0 voter will actually cast a vote for that clown in November.

This movement has always been bigger than just one election. Our job should continue to compete and win every local and state election all over the country until we remove the cancerous venom that is the current GOP/Neo-Con establishment from power.

GOP 2.0 - the upgrade is coming...

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

"the VP has no power" mhmmmm

"the VP has no power"

mhmmmm *cough* Dick Cheney *cough*

Flawed Perception

His entire stance is completely philosophically broken. He is still trying to play the Democrat/Republican game. It's like trying to save a terminally ill patient that has 1 day to live. They will change him before he changes them. It's like a recovering alcoholic going to a bar and trying to get everyone else to stop drinking. That alcoholic is much more likely to start drinking again before he gets the whole bar to stop drinking. The two party system is deeply flawed. If Rand really wants to make a difference he should spearhead a movement to make the libertarian party a major national party on the same level of the dems and repubs. He could carry on his fathers message and have the entire liberty movement (which is growing EXPONENTIALLY) behind him. Freedom is popular. Big government is not. I am afraid that he is going to find himself on the losing side of this war. Time will tell but if I were a betting man I would bet against Rand at this point. The revolution is coming.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but an irate tireless few keen on setting the brushfire of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams

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That's not true. He's trying to get bills through right now

within that two-party system that still exists. That is still the game right now, and Audit the Fed comes before the full House and Senate next month.

Debbie

if the liberty movement is to

if the liberty movement is to become the GOP, we better "get along" with the current establishment, it will make things transition much more smoothly.

Thank You!

How can supposed liberty lovers not understand their own hypocrisy when they advocate means inconsistent with their ends?

Unless they never really cared about those ends.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

What's wrong with our movmenet:

Nobody want's to hold anyone accountable anymore (with respect to being consistent and principled), and want's to start "playing ball" with the establishment.

These people never stood for anything and merely saw this movement as a vehicle to promote their own selfish and opportunistic agendas.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Complex... explain again why

Complex... explain again why you were not a delegate for RP?

I don't live in

a caucus state.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

where is Ron?

Ron aka Dr.No, I want to hear from YOU. Dr. Compromise "rand the sell out" I can care less about. YOU Dr. Paul owe us an explanation. How can you do this to your family name, to those of us that belived in you, supported you, fought for you, and loved you.Come out of hiding, please.

Carol's Take on Rand's endorsement

Ron is probably quite disgusted at what many are saying about his son and at the same time isn't in agreement with Rand.

Here is what Carol had to say:
http://runronpaul.com/endorsements/carol-paul-speaks-about-r...

He didn't do anything to his family name...

unless you mean being the father of Rand Paul. Carol Paul states in her interview, also on this front page, that she still has not heard from Rand, he will call her when he is ready.

First of all

nice interview. I am thankful to Kurt for taking the time and effort to put together this interview.

After hearing Rand's explanation, I do feel a lot better about the situation. He (in my opinion) showed a lot of respect for his dad and the liberty movement, while explaining why he would endorse Romney. It doesn't mean that I am going to automatically vote for Rand when he runs, but it does mean that I will keep an open mind and look carefully at Rand's voting record and platform. Rand makes a good point that he should be judged based on how he votes and where he stands on the issues, not necessarily how he plays politics. Like it or not, I think Rand has to be friendly towards our "enemies" in order to become president. I think that strategy is very close to Ron Paul's foreign policy in terms of trading and communicating with your "enemies", rather than antagonizing everyone and pissing them off. Agree or disagree, I believe Rand when he said that he was compromising strategy and not values by endorsing Romney.

P.S.

No one will ever be like Ron Paul.. even his own son. If we can't look past a few faults or strategies that we disagree with, we will never have another candidate to support and the movement will die.

I have 2 questions for Rand Paul.

1. Ask Rand Paul how the Citizens United Supreme Court Ruling (a Koch brothers pet project, for obvious reasons) helped him win the election to the Kentucky State Senate.

As Joshua Holland details for AlterNet, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission may have provided a lifetime supply of get-out-of-jail-free cards to corporate criminals.

Undue corporate influence over U.S. elections has been a serious problem in American politics for decades, but the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission made things worse. Worst of all, we may never know the extent of the damage.

Citizens United freed corporations to spend unlimited amounts of money backing specific political candidates, and without congressional action, those expenditures can be completely anonymous. Major corporations have been capitalizing on the new legal landscape by the millions, and the public doesn’t really know who is buying what influence or why.

The Kentucky senate race serves as a prime example. The Democratic candidate, Jack Conway, who was Kentucky’s attorney general, was prosecuting a nursing home for allegedly covering up the sexual abuse of one of its residents during the 2010 election campaign.

That nursing home was owned by Terry Forcht, a millionaire who gives prodigiously to right-wing causes. He poured money into Karl Rove’s organization, American Crossroads GPS, which ran ads backing Conway’s Republican opponent, Rand Paul, who came away with the victory.

2. Ask Rand Paul why should we be asking taxpayers to stay at work 12.5% or more longer when all we need to do is return tax levels for the rich to the levels they were at back in the 1960′s?

The Fox News Zombies repeat the Koch brothers’ agenda messages incessantly. And then you’ll hear Republican politicians, particularly the Koch-backed Tea Party types, re-iterating the line. What’s wrong with this picture?…

Paul Ryan: $63,000 received from the Koch campaign – “[All we need is] very modest increases in the retirement age.”

John Boehner: $30,000 received from the Koch campaign – “…and eventually getting the retirement age up to 70 is a step that needs to be made.”

Rand Paul: $17,000 received from the Koch campaign- “…the age on Social Security will have to go up.”

Read Mises, Hayek, or Rothbard to see why

we don't want government setting the rules for who should, and shouldn't be allowed to contribute to political campaigns.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Rothbard endorsed George H.W.

Rothbard endorsed George H.W. Bush...

Why don't you start posting some hate-filled garbage about him?

They must have gotten him drunk

on that night.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

This is how he started his

This is how he started his "endorsement":

Yes, gulp, I'm down to the grim, realistic choice: Which of two sets of bozos is going to rule us in 1993-1997?

Not the same as Rand saying he'll campaign for Romney.

More clarification here:

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/on-murray-rothb...

gold = money
war = health of the state
liberty = prosperity

Murray's was definitely

Murray's was definitely worded much better, haha. I can't say I don't wish Rand's endorsement would have included the word "bozos".

Good point though... Thanks for the link!

That wasn't an endorsment.

Stop trying to get justification by association. You're trying to pervert Murray's statement to fit your narrative for compromise. If you can read English you can see that Murray's wasn't an actual endorsement.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

A house divided against

A house divided against itself cannot stand. We must rally around that cause which unites us all, that is when we are at our best.

This Rand situation is like one play out of 60 minutes of football. It may have been botched or it may have been by design, either way its only one play.

Now patriots, lets get the the ball back, drive down the field and score one for team Liberty. GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!

Funny how so many haughty types are feigning

disgust at our real disgust at Rand's betrayal, and then through rhetorical gymnastics which would make Rand's new friends proud, turn it into how those of us who stand for something (Liberty, integrity, conscience, consistency) are the one's who are letting everyone down.

They're great at the mind games aren't they?

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Complex... Did you listen to

Complex... Did you listen to Carol Paul's interview? She is talking to people like you. You've filled up this page with your hate and you belittle those who give the same message as Carol. Your "backscratcher" and "evil Rand" and "sycophant" comments are getting old.

You have zero information about conversations between Rand and Ron. I would imagine that Dr. Paul would be hurt by your misplaced diatribes about his son.