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Excellent Gary Johnson Interview

I know there will be some on here who will be upset at a GJ post but, to reiterate a point I made in another thread, the liberty movement is about more than one person (said by Ron Paul). My #1 choice by a LOT is Ron Paul but if he doesn't get the nomination and retires then GJ is getting my vote. He's no Ron Paul (he certainly doesn't understand economics the Way Ron does) but he'd be a major step in the right direction for this country and he is absolutely a fiscal conservative.


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Don't bother

Trying to argue with John Ashman is a lost cause. He lies about everything, makes crap up, and is probably on the Johnson payroll. He has probably never read any book, never-mind a book by Von Mises. Of course he would not know how Von Mises is commonly referred because he does not care about Austrian economics, rather just a troll for globalist Johnson.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

Name one thing about which

Name one thing about which I've lied.

Also, it's not "Von Mises", it's "von Mises". The v is not capitalized because it means "of" or "from"

Stop digging while you can still see out of the hole.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"


I don't have to name them. However, all one must do is read through your posts during your week long membership here...and your dishonestly is painstakingly obvious. If that is not enough...A quick trip over to RPF adds additional clarity and your true motives...Oh but wait...You really support Ron Paul, right?

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

I accept your surrender.

I accept your surrender.

Even with the flaws and inconsistencies I find that he has, I WILL vote for him if he is the nominee.

I don't think he can ban flag burning, he's tried and failed. I don't think he can make immigration any worse than it is under Obama and he can't overturn RvW and plunge the country into civil war.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"


Using your logic then Ron Paul is a fraud because he is a Republican. God bless Gary and Ron.

You're inferring things that

You're inferring things that aren't there, and by doing so you are denying that there is a growing counter-revolution within the Republican party against the Romney-supporting, Johnson-controlling "establishment" Republicans.

Not to mention Johnson has attacked Ron Paul throughout the race, including trying to discredit him by branding him as a racist.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.


Again, false.

His staff linked one very positive Gary Johnson article and when it was pointed out that there was a fleeting racism charge in there, one phrase, it was edited to remove it and anything else deemed to be derogatory.

That being said, Ron Paul has surround himself for decades with people who are vaguely, if not out right, racist, sexist, bigoted.

Murray Rothbard, that you love, and friend of Ron Paul, was a sexist, racist, bigot and homophobe.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I call BS

Mr. "1 week 8 hours".

Gary Johnson *endorsed* Ron Paul in 2008 and again during a Republican candidate debate (before he was closed out by the Establishment) in 2011. "Attacked Ron Paul throughout the race including trying to ... brand him as a racist"? Garbage. Show me the proof. Guess what, you can't.


This clown has spent his 1

This clown has spent his 1 week slamming Rand while saying he supports Ron and Johnson. Now he is slamming Ron and pushing Gary full-time. He is the worst kind of troll. Probably on the Johnson payroll. What a waste of money! LOL

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

He said he had.

Just not complete books. Have you?

The idea that you have to read any of that to be a libertarian is ludicrous. Thomas Jefferson never read any of it, as it didn't exist yet, and he was a libertarian.


Yes, I have read them.

Yes, I have read them. They're some of the most important writers of libertarian and free market thought in history and I like to actually know what I'm talking about when I call myself a "libertarian."

But keep trying to justify Johnson's ignorance.

Edit: Thomas Jefferson was an avid reader. If he were alive to today he sure as sh** would have read the works of these men so that argument doesn't hold much water.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.


You don't even know Ludwig's

You don't even know Ludwig's actual last name! It's not "Mises", it's "von Mises".

Wow, you're such a great libertarian! You should be put in charge of determining who is and who isn't!!!


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

I don't believe you.

Sorry. You just don't seem like a bright guy.

99% of Ron Paul's supporters haven't read a full book by any of those writers. That doesn't make them fake libertarians.



Is getting my vote in November.

Not if

He isn't on the ballot. Oh, "I'll write him in". In what state? Most don't allow it and the few that do require an affirmative request from the candidate to count them. Otherwise, you might as well write in Mickey Mouse for all it will matter.

Look, I appreciate the dedication and frustration you must feel that Ron will not get the Republican nomination. It is disappointing and enraging to see your hard work and financial sacrifice subverted and stolen by the corrupt and fraudulent GOP. But the "Ron Paul or nobody" position while it might be personally satisfying plays right into Romney's hands. The last thing the GOP (or Democrats for that matter) can afford is the consolidation and continuation of the R3volution behind Gary Johnson. A strong showing would explode the fraud of the "two party" system and give the movement as solid base going forward.

I have tremendous respect for Dr. Paul and have supported him since 1987. He has moved the ball of liberty off the two yard line but there is still a long way to go. He is unique. But that is also the problem he *is* unique. I had some hope for Rand, but we see how that's worked out. If not Ron (who at 76 is retiring) then who? Rubio? Really.

Gary Johnson is promoting about 95% of Ron's program. He is credible as a former two term governor and young enough to stay around. What's the problem, particularly compared to Romney or Obama? Remember, perfect is the deadly enemy of good enough. I say, don't get mad get even. The best way to do this is, if we can't have Ron, back Johnson to the max.


Please continue supporting Dr. Paul until he drops out, but...

Please continue supporting Dr. Paul until he drops out, but you can also support Gov. Johnson as well. In Tampa, change the platform and change the GOP. If the GOP Dr. Paul wants had been in charge, both Gov. Johnson and Dr. Paul would have been in all the debates. They wouldn't have been able to exclude him like they did to Dr. Paul in 2008.

The problem with not lending any support until after Tampa to Gov. Johnson at all is that in order to get in the Presidential debates, Gov. Johnson has to reach 15% in 5 national polls by Labor Day. That's Monday September 3rd, 2012. The GOP Convention is at the End of August on purpose to prevent 3rd party candidates from gaining any momentum by people voting for them in polls due to being unhappy with the nominee in time to challenge the duopoly. There won't be any polls between the GOP Convention in Tampa and Labor Day to ensure the duopoly doesn't have any valid challenges.

If you get called by a polling company, volunteer Gov. Johnson's name if he's not included. If by some unknown reason Dr. Paul manages to get the GOP nomination, please vote for him in November. I will be supporting him then as well as Gov. Johnson won't have a shot at that point.

In many states, write-ins don't count. It may feel good at the polls to write-in Dr. Paul's name in those states, but no one but you and those you tell will notice or even care. You may as well have thrown that ballot in the trash and just said you voted for Dr. Paul. It simply won't be counted. IMHO, we are lucky to have two liberty candidates vying for the office of PotUS. Let's promote ideas and liberty along with ANY candidate regardless of party that will support them.

P.S. Fear of losing is a powerful motivator for establishment politicians. The more they see Gov. Johnson as a threat in the GOP, the more they will listen and change in Tampa to stop it.


I want to know about GJ, I would be at a site that is in support of him! Thanks, but no thanks...

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

Here is my thing

Even if you absolutely hate Johnson's guts, at least help him get in the debates. Don't let the debates be between the evil twins Obama and Romney

Why should anyone...

... get upset about Gary Johnson postings on Daily Paul? It's called keeping an open mind. Sure we are focused on Tampa, but we have a card up our sleeve. Nothing wrong with that. I hope the folk at the GOP Politburo read these posts and see that we are not without alternatives to Romney and they must not bank on our vote.

If Ron Paul does not get the nomination, and we are all working hard towards that goal, we'll have Gary Johnson on the ballot. Absent voting fraud, which is a big ask, Johnson could poll 10% plus and that would utterly gut the GOP Politburo. The last thing they want is a significant Libertarian constituency.

Don't compare Johnson with Ron Paul. Accept the fact that he is a credible candidate who could give us an opportunity to send a strong message to the statists and neocons. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Plano TX

Beats me sleuth

As a plan b Gary actually rocks and has ballot access. We can all root for Ron to win in Tampa but unless he is being stealthy he doesn't act like he can win and his son has jumped ship. I hope this is all some sort of covert plan but at the same time we could prepare to help Johnson if things don't work out.

There are quite a few

There are quite a few positions that Gary holds which I support.


To bring up another Gary thread before Tampa is crass. If you're looking to convert some in the liberty movement, the timing is terrible.

It's my 00000010 cents.

If Not Ron We Need to Support Gary And So Should Ron

Gary far and above Romney.

Heard Positive Comments About Gary Johnson at Lunch Today

Thank you for the link to the interview. Yes, now Gary Johnson is our best choice for the November election. I was at a Chamber of Commerce luncheon today and a visitor from another city saw my book on our table "Red and Blue and Broke All Over" by Charles Goyette. We started talking about the terrible situation America faces and he asked me who I was going to support now that Ron Paul was out of the race. I said Gary Johnson and he had heard about him in a positive way. I gave him a Gary Johnson bumper sticker and he said he was going to put it in his office. He said his fellow workers had kidded him as being the only libertarian in their office and he wanted them to know that the campaign was not now going to end in Tampa in August.





GJ can wait for our support like Ron Paul has waited for over 30 years!

Ron Paul and only Ron Paul deserves our support at the moment!

Only Ron Paul is the one trying to tackle the main issue's here! That being the Federal Reserve bank and its power over all money supply! The Inflation Tax, THOSE ARE THE ISSUES!

And ending the wars!

Ron Paul or no one!