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Rand Paul Confronted on Mitt Romney Endorsement by WeAreChange

Now this was epic


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I like Luke.

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Lmao Damn Luke.

This isn't how you gain journalistic credibility, though, I assume that Luke had to do it this way because he has p!ssed off Rand in the past, which has lead to his denial of interviews.

Its too bad to see Luke's ego get in the way of growing the movement, which is what Rand's endorsement was all about.

'Bilderburg group' this and 'bilderburg group' that. Sometimes it doesn't matter how polite you are when asking the questions, rather its the questions that you ask. Maybe you should have just stuck to asking about the endorsement.. and waiting a lil bit for an answer.

No wonder he wont talk to you, Luke.

By the way, as even you admitted in this video, in regards to policy... he's on our side.

When injustice becomes law - rebellion becomes duty.

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this

is Lukes style live streaming and spontanaty its live not set up!Its honest investgative journalism.

freedomdreemzz

WeAreLame

This guy phrases his question with, "We know you're playing politics, but tell us...." and you expect Rand to submit to a taped conversation with someone like that?? knowing full well the bias intent of the guy who will control the selective editing of the video?

Plus, Rand has already talked to this guy several times and knows full well the attack mode that he, Kokesh and Alex Jones are all in.

Folks, hate to break it to you, but there is a whole industry making money in the conspiracy peddling world. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to Coast to Coast AM as much as the next guy, but don't form your world view from these people.

If you want to engage in the political process to advocate for rule-of-law and constitutional principles, take note: Distancing yourself from people motivated purely by pushing a grand conspiracy narrative intersecting all aspects of life, will be one of the wisest things you'll ever do.

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

I Knew

Alex Jones and his flock of conspiracy sheep were a ticking time bomb. These people will believe anything but reality. As soon as their is controversy they yell conspiracy and act like idiots. Hopefully these nuts will shake loose and the movement can move forward stronger without them.

Yeah, let's get rid of all

Yeah, let's get rid of all those nut-jobs that launched the liberty movement and helped put rand where he is today.

Losers!! They don't deserve a voice!

Get bent.

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies".

Naw.

Not without them. With a better them.

As individuals, we can grow collectively.

When injustice becomes law - rebellion becomes duty.

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Beautifully stated.

Well done, Radio.

When injustice becomes law - rebellion becomes duty.

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do you guys not understand

do you guys not understand that rand is with us and not against us? Rand explained his reasoning for endorsing mitt ad he has taken one for the team to continue the ron paul influence in the republican party. Agree or not with rand there is absolutely no need to divide us up and start acting like rand is some kind of traitor. His voting record is solid and he is a firm believer in individual liberty.. You guys are idiots for turning on him. Go confront romney or santorum or oabama you weaklings.

You don't endorse Ron's

You don't endorse Ron's opponent before the convention that so many thousands of people have worked hard to get delegates for. I can think of few ways he could have shown greater disrespect towards all those associated with the delegate process and what they have sacrificed. Not to mention the money and tireless hours given by even more folks in the grassroots.

I know I'm not in-the-know when it comes to what is going on behind the scenes, but there is a lot at stake in the United States (and the world), right now. Ron Paul has done more for America than any other citizen alive in my opinion, so I will continue to trust him.

That doesn't mean this move doesn't literally hurt me on the inside.

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

That was difficult to watch.

That was difficult to watch. Let us just say that until this all pans out, Rand Paul won't be getting any more money from me.

I will still be proud, however, to write in his father this November.

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

Excellent Job

Keep up the good work.

and...

this is what it's going to take. good job by them.

Hmm.. not sure what was epic.

Hmm.. not sure what was epic. But I do like the question about why endorse someone who Rand seems to vote against all the time. It's just establishment bull crap.

Rand talked to Ben Swann...

...perhaps the Alex Jones wannabes need to go start their own political party...

There's a little thing called respect that still exists with respect to how to _______, if you want to be taken seriously by decision-makers in business or politics.

Those of you in the "Rand Paul is a traitor" crowd are simply NOT mature enough to understand the patriotism of our movement; READ some history from 1763-1776. Almighty God instituted government, government will always be run by finite men on this side of eternity - Rand is one of the BEST representatives for Constitutionally limited government in the Congress right now.

It Is Wrong To Accost Someone Like This

And who is this person to tell Rand where his interest lies?

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

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Does an elected official have an obligation to the public?

A public official is ultimately responsible to the public.

Make An Appointment Then

He was on his way to work.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

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Make an appointment about the Bilderberg meeting?

Do you think the Senator would have agreed to that?

The bottom line is how does one function in a difficult situation. That is the test that matters for anyone in life. In other words, grace under pressure. Did Rand Paul distinguish himself by doing anything differently than any other politician?

Where's the Enthusiasm?

The silence is deafening.

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it.
Voltaire

Rand handled confrontation

Rand handled confrontation the only way he COULD handle it... like the rest of em. Really depressing to watch...

oye veh, now both Luke and Abby Martin are after him...

you know you're in trouble when Rudkowski comes after you...

so wish none of this happened the way it did. now it's just one more wedge within the beautiful Liberty Movement.

all Rand had to do was wait until after Tampa...

that's all I'm gonna say on the matter, as everything that needed to be said about Rand, has been said by me.

hopefully, I can be all zen about it, and just post links related to it from now on, without any lengthy verbiage.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I don't think that it's a

I don't think that it's a wedge so much. I just think that there are people that are realizing that secrecy, infiltration by covert means are contrary to freedom and an open society. So Rand is really just bringing out those who didn't realize these principles of liberty, and they will either go back to the same old neo-con establishment and walk off the plank with Rand, or they will continue on with those who were truly Libertarians.

Some will take a while to recognize it, just as it took so many on the daily Paul to recognize the vote fraud issue. First they made fun of us and called us conspiracy quacks, then they fought us, then we won, then many joined us and turned from the delusion, and came to the light. Same thing is happening with the Rand defection from the liberty movement. He has left the movement, but he is really trying to secretly take it over.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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haha, that's more zen than my take...

but I like your assessment.

only time will, and can tell.

that, is probably the most frustrating part. there are hints of how all of this could go either way.

1. Rand is completely naive in thinking he can co-opt neoCons
2. Rand is completely naive in thinking he can co-opt us for himself
3. Rand is playing some 4D chess and we're all wrong

none of which will be confirmed until much later. besides, frankly as a Senator though, I have no doubt that despite the Mutt WRONGney endorsement, his actual legislative efforts would be no different the day before or the day after the announcement: he'll still vote like he has already demonstrated that he will do in his rookie term, which while not 100% Ron Paul-ian, it's the best Constitutionalist record in the Senate, bar none.

but what I do see Rand factually doing is at least outwardly he's signaling an obvious break from the R3VOLution that his father has inspired, and seems to be carving out his own new base of support consisting of some who have joined his campaign from our ranks, along with those from the astroturfed KOCHtopus Tea-o-Cons.

From all of his media outreach on the slightly less RINO mainline GOP outlets, and the faketarian RINO Glenn Beck I'm pretty certain he want to coalesce his own independent base of support consisting of those whose values lie somewhere between the RINOs and the Tea-o-Con and some of the more utilitarian consequentialists among us.

can anyone truly achieve Constitutionalism with those who are only 40% Constitutionalist, philosophically, let alone restore the Republic, or 100% of our Natural Rights?

obviously not. but regardless, all of this only matters if one expects the current political, economic, and overall geopolitical status quo to remain... er... the status quo, for years to come.

but I'm of the mind, as there is ABSOLUTELY ZERO CHANCE the currency collapse WON'T happen at Fed's current trajectory, we're not gonna have a political system as we know it for Rand to even bother building his own. Ron at least had 40+ yrs of definitive public record, 24 of which in publicly verifiable voting record to know that he's the real deal, which led him to be able to build the political infrastructure and a fervent base all in less than 5 yrs.

well, as far as I'm concerned if Rand thinks we're on the same time line as every other political season before, by the time he becomes the Pres, there's not gonna be a Republic, to be the President of.

But that's my 'um... so when we going Galt?' sentiment, that may or may not happen. that said, it's not like Rand isn't aware of how dire the currency collapse imminently looms.

hopefully in the aggregate though, MORE Ron Paul-ness has rubbed off on him than what many of us have observed since last week.

like I said. all a waiting game now...

so not worth for me to get angsty over; though hopefully I got it all out the way! LOL.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

If i was in Rands

situation I would have reacted exactly the same. Have fun y'all throwing the only good senator under the bus all because of a worthless endorsement. Lets look past his voting record and judge him soley on his endorsement that he made to stay relevant after the elections.lol Nonsense imo

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

did he have to say he endorsed

romney to stay relevant to you?

He didn't to me. He has slipped into irrelevance for me.

Yesterdays anakin skywalker is todays darth vader.

Are you serious?

I am talking about staying relevant in the senate with the other 99 gas bags. It doesn't matter how much support someone has from the people if the other politicians could care less about you....example Ron Paul. Ron has a legion of support from the people, and his fellow politicians could care less, thus most of his bills got zero attention. Rands endorsement of Willard means nothing to me. To the 99 gas bags (40 +/- repubs) in the senate, it means something.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

He voted for sanctions on

He voted for sanctions on Iran, an act of war, something he was strongly against just a few months ago. Something's changed.

The Sanctions Past 100-0

If you check out Rand On Ben Swann you'll see that he really explains himself much better. (Leave it to Ben Swann to pin him down better than anyone else has thus far.)

Like it or not, he is doing what he has to do to make the world a MUCH better place. We're talking millions of lives saved, and maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt and not begrudge him the right to save those lives.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

That vote took

place long before he endorsed Willard. I do not agree with his vote either. I feel better about it that he got amendments passed that the sanctions would not be construed as authority to go to war, but that doesn't make things okay. Everything else he does out weighs his blemishes.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

The bill says that all

The bill says that all options are on the table, including military ones, rendering Rand's provision meaningless.