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Adam Kokesh: Dr. Ron Paul got the heads up ONLY 30min BEFORE Rand got on Hannity!

Be careful to jump to conclusions on Ron Paul

Adam starts talking about it around 9:40min mark.

Published on Jun 14, 2012 by AdamKokesh

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If true, OM F'ng GOD! There seriously needs some purging within ALL of Dr. Paul's organizations!

IF true, God dang it! I wanna go MuthaFrakking HULK on WHOMEVER had a part in sabotaging the campaign from within!

If someone within the organization betrayed Dr. Paul like this, IF you guys within the campaign or C4L or Rand's camp have ANY sense of decency, you'd make a concerted effort to confront whomever that is, ALL TOGETHER as a show of force, and PURGE them to PROTECT Dr. Paul!

GET TO IT NOW!!!

Regardless, there needs to be a top down audit of all of Dr. Paul's organization to PURGE ALL non-r3VOL leeches, if indeed as Green posits, our email info has been released to Romney camp by some traitor or some Trojans who have infiltrated the campaign.

Now it's becoming clear. IF true, Dr. Paul has truly been betrayed, AGAIN by those whom he trust he put in charge.

GOD DAMN IT!

And to ANYONE WHO DOUBTED the Doc and his honor itself upon hearing about Rand, go look up Hari Kiri. I'd highly recommend the vertical cuts as they are easier on the eyes, as it don't all immediately spill out first.

I am so F'ng LIVID now!!!

How MUCH crap is gonna be thrown our way from within???

Poor Doc. Could someone around him reassure him that we are ALL 100% behind him?

We LOVE you Doc!!! Please Hang in there!

I plead with those in the campaign GET YOUR SH*T together! And PURGE! PURGE! PURGE! NOW!!!




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Campaiging against your own father - that hurts.

Q. Did you have any idea of just how much backlash you endorsing Romney would cause? A. Yes I did.(now, more about all my accomplishments) Ouch.

Clean up your language.

Clean up your language.

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His language was fine

apparently you did not watch the video....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Screw Adam Kokesh. He needs to step down and go away.

He is flaming out, a wanna-be Alex Jones but his acting skills are limited.

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I see a lot of people still throwing tantrums about Rand

How's that working out for you? I think maybe you all should scapegoat on Rand some more, why that ought to fix it, yeah, that's the ticket.

I mean, look at Ron Paul, he is tantruming hard-core....wait, not he isn't. Huh, I guess he just isn't as hard-core as the rest of you.

Rand - not scape goat

Just GOAT.

sovereign

Yeah, this "hard core" act

that a lot of people on this site are trying to hide behind as they sink their knives into the Liberty Movement is really over-the-top.
It amounts to this: "In order to keep Ron pure, we must destroy everyone and everything around him".
Now, THERE'S what they think is their idea of a "winning formula".
It's insanity.

And while you are at it

Be sure to look really exasperated and maybe, lay on the floor and flail around.

And Adam Kokesh would know

And Adam Kokesh would know HOW, exactly?

Adam Kokesh is not going to scoop ANYONE.

Duh...

everyone assumend there was coordination between Ron and Rand, but I saw Romney wanting Rand's endorsement very badly. And as soon as Ron officially conceded, the Hannity interview was scheduled.

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"Terrorism is the war of the poor, while war is the terrorism of

Adam At His Best

I have in the past been very turned off by Adam with his past rants and bad language.

However, this is Adam at his best. I appreciate the education, the clear thinking, the support of Ron Paul and Carol and the plans for Tampa.

Thank you, Adam. Talk like this and some of us who are older will definitely listen to you.

fonta

Ron Paul knows the first question he will get

in public is "Why did your own son endorse Romney?" a bazillion times over and over - like everything else with which the "press" has tormented him.

I feel so badly for him right now.

If I were him

I would never speak to anybody on this site again, and demand that his name be taken off the banner.

The behavior on this site has been disgraceful!

One more thing...

Rand wants to change the system from within... The changes which he makes are not important. But his turning back on his father has a very dangerous effect. Rand left us with a very ugly story, no drones or hemp or TSA can cover up the betrayal of his heroic father.

Dissapointed supporters lose their hope, and they are much less likely to join similar movement in the future.

Of course, Paul's family might have been threatened, which would be the only excuse for Rand's behaviour.

It is a real tragedy for Ron, because there is no good solution. But, he should look at it positively, he educated so many young people, one (Rand) less or more does not matter too much. "Bilderbergs" seem to have won this battle, but who knows why it's good...

The real rand paul is a joke!

The real rand paul is a joke! Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8S-fRoqo_0

juan maldonado

Once again...

Ron Paul brought the movement up to this point, he gave theory, he showed how to fight: how to give great speeches, how to answer hostile MSM gracefully.

Perhaps, now it is time to take the torch from there. Ron Paul is old, and it does not seem that he has a team. Maybe, he will make it to be a president at the end, but in the case that he does not, new leaders are needed, and a strong team.

Rand's case is partly a fault of RP supporters who expected from him too much. Hey, we are not in the Middle Ages when sons were inhereting thrones from their fathers. After all, RP is for the republic not for kingdom. Rand had little chance to take the torch. His chances were mainly based on genetics, but his father was too busy to teach him while building the whole movement.

Very rarely, kids of great people are great themselves, since greatness is a part of trade-off, everyone has 24h a day to do his/her priorities. Some people put their priority time into their families, some people grab the money, some people create arts or science, some people fight for the society,...

all true,

but truly, we'd be lying if we said that we didn't expect Rand to carry on Dr. Paul's legacy as close to his record as possible.

that said, I truly did not want to see Rand become a Warren, to Ron's Howard Buffet, the libertarian leaning O.G. PaleoConservative champion.

hope the Republic even has time to let Rand prove me wrong.

that said, as you posit, it's not about the person, but the ideas, and principles championed by Dr. Paul and others that inspired us to harness our own individual sovereignty.

still, every movement needs its champions. And we have the best one humanly, historically possible with Ron, and can't fault people to expect a son who grew up in such unique Liberty Movement household to not come out more resembling his dad, than those whom he's been fighting against; at least with Romney endorsement, on the surface, for now, that's what it seems like.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Easier said than done

Think how many books Ron has read to build the theory. Think about his 30 years long experience as a politician, and what he has witnessed in Washington.

Listen Ron's interviews to hostile MSM, they are a result of knowledge and determination and intelligence and morality. Having all these abilities together in one person is close to impossible. Look at all the plots of GOP and MSM, and Bilderberg and whoever... What Ron Paul is doing is a magic based on a very hard work. It is not an easy thing to do, they chase you, catch you and you are done...

Some say Rand is a better speaker than Ron. That is so not true. Rand is a smooth-talking politician that makes me sleep, whose goal is not to say anything, to stick to the fringe topics and escape. Ron Paul is a genius-speaker, his speeches and interviews are like poems but also very real and relevant. You can't wait for his next thought.

So, Rand got caught and lost. Let's hope he will learn and understand. But also, let's not expect from him too much, and let's give to some other young people a chance to lead.

I am sad about Ron in this situation, but he is a strong man.

Ron Paul Will Not Endorse Mitt Romney

http://www.prisonplanet.com/lew-rockwell-ron-paul-will-not-e...

Now let's get back to the business of getting delegates!

The lawyers for Ron Paul will handle Romney and his crew of criminals.

Romney had a nice die job for a head of hair and a nice suit...and he is a monster......

hi y'all, Love you all, as you know, but I can care less what

some of you feel about Adam Kokesh, Rand, Tate, Benton et al.

this is about the integrity of the official RP2012 campaign, the principled steadfastness of the R3VOLution and most of all, Dr. Paul's INCORRUPTIBLE reputation that's on the line.

Adam may be obnoxious at times, can be an attention whore and be overtly a "loud-mouth" as he himself refers himself as in jest. That said, I have not seen the boy to lie. And to those who don't like the fact that he's an agnostic/atheist, well then you can ignore him if that's your sole criteria if not a predominant criteria in considering/judging who you may or may not consider worthy of considering their opinions of.

I am sick to death of all this infighting. Frankly I shouldn't even have to clarify this, if this were months ago.

Like all forms of dissent and constructive criticisms, it's healthy.

So IF at all you care about Dr. Paul, and the movement by proxy, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO KNOW IF IN FACT HE HAS BEEN SABOTAGED IN THIS WAY?

Don't like what the ramifications of the answer may be? We'll deal with it. What, if it is true, just because it may become a blip of bad press, you'd rather gloss over than PURGE the scums and leeches who are sabotaging Dr. Paul from within??

How the FRAK would you like it, if your vice president who you were about to introduce just told you 30min before grand opening of your headquarters that he was moving on to another company, when his face was plastered all over the promo and the press expected him to lead the company, not move onto a competitor's??

Would YOU not want to know if someone were to drop a bombshell like that right before the big publicity HQ opening??

THAT, is the real issue, NOT what me or you feel about Adam.

It's about WHAT it means, as I keep repeating IF what he alleges turns out to be true.

THAT, is the point. It's about Dr. Paul's reputations that these leeches are ruining by their actions, IF so.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

TO: AnCapMercenary

Agree with your sentiments. I just want to add one thing. You said, "It's about Dr. Paul's reputations that these leeches are ruining by their actions, IF so."

Well, after 35 years of relentless fighting for the Constitution and his principles with the Congress on a daily basis, I don't think there's a chance in h-ll that these "leeches" will be able to ruin Dr. Paul's long-standing reputation! :)

true, you're right. and on the most part to us who consider

all the nuances surrounding these type of events. sure.

and the MSM has always smeared and maligned him anyway. so that's never gonna change, at least not any time soon.

I suppose, my sentiment was more about what casual political observer to those on the fence.

If you ask anything, even if they may not like or understand the ideas that Dr. Paul talks about, personality wise, they have NOTHING BUT great things to say. He is known as "THE Gentleman." Just don't want that tarnished I suppose.

and truthfully though, in the aggregate, there's nothing anyone can do to changes the minds of willfully sheeple pliant people who believe anything they're told anyhow. so I suppose... it's kind of an moot 'worry' on my part as no one can change stupid.

still, doesn't hurt any less, considering what he may be feeling about it all. and, no doubt, as a voracious reader of news, I am certain, he's somewhat dismayed with our natural organic reaction, while hurtful, I'm sure he understands WHY we're reacting this way. still, I'm sure it's hurtful to watch long time public supporters like Alex Jones and Adam riling up the base into a frenzy, which believe me, I too am not immune from.

I just hope the Gray Champ is doing well, healthy, and psychologically ready to address this issue in context moving forward.

I must assume it'd be probably odd for a reluctant leader such as himself to inspire a leaderless movement, yet people looking to him for leadership, and a sense of direction and guidance.

but to me personally, even in a leaderless movement as there is no such thing as no movement, nor coalescence INTO a movement without a key individual or without a few key individualS leading the charge. Hey, we all know the known intellectuals in our movement be it from the Mises set like Lew, Tom, Murphy, Wenzel, Schiff, etc. to our media like AJ, Adam, WeAreChange, Abby Martin, Dice, MatLarson, TMOT, et al. so no 'leaderless movement' is completely leader-less.

and for now, whether he likes it or not, Dr. Paul IS the titular head of the entire liberty movement.

and I agree, because his incorruptible reputation was built on years of him just being himself and not some outward campaign to be seen as such, the Doc will persevere.

But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't MISS seeing him in public: he's been pretty low key since the TX convention speech.

I just hope he's recharging with the loving atmosphere provided by Carol and rest of his loved ones, before he charges on through to Tampa!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Just to Say Ancap

...I follow your posts and thinking. I appreciate them and often you echo my resolve and...confusion as these are confusing times.

I also echo this sentiment of yours:

"I just hope he's recharging with the loving atmosphere provided by Carol and rest of his loved ones, before he charges on through to Tampa!"

And, I KNOW that even if things did not turn out the way we wish, Dr. Paul might retire to garden and write his memoirs...but he will always be working fervently, earnestly...with others behind the scenes.

It has always been my stong belief that there are MANY others who are and have been for a long time working with him behind the scenes.

fonta

well, to Dr. Paul's garden tomatoes, Hell No you can't have him!

well... not right now, right now.o)

honestly though, I can't see him 'retire' retire in the traditional sense, as I see him traveling the country with Carol, simply doing what he does: speak the Truth, wake up minds, enlighten, and those who see the Greatness of Past America in him are melted into 'aw shucks, gentle souls like that still exist in the 21st century??'

he'll always be that Gray Champion in my book.

yup. I too agree with your, there are many others behind the scenes.

I suppose as a third party observer who is not a fly on the wall in all of his senior advisory board meetings, it's frustrating, as we all support him, but don't know what the campaign has been doing. though frankly, that NEVER stopped us from doing our own thing, and practically running the campaign the way we see fit regardless of what some of the more 'professional' typical political operators within the traditional structure of the campaign has done or is doing.

yup. still, I always wished that while it's silly to expect a man his age to change his ways, if there was ONE thing that I truly wished that he'd have done this time around? Instead of his faithfully weekly Texas Straight Talk segments, that he could replace or supplement that with general campaign updates, without citing any details that may unnecessarily give our enemies ammo.

other than that, I just hope he's doing well. because as far as I'm concerned, he's already LONG achieved what he's set out to achieve; as Tom Woods cited recently, "Ron Paul, you changed the world in 2007" in the 'Ghouliani moment,' and has since woken up MILLIONS of minds worldwide!

I mean how many politicians/statesmen, let alone a President, ever done that? Sure these murderous warmongers set precedents for more institutionalized tyranny, but they're merely puppets continuing to carry out a program never ending program of statism by the Oligarchy that has always ruled this world, in one form or another.

As Lew Rockwell often says, we're the only political movement that is PURELY philosophic in its foundation in which most supporters are not merely supporters, but are in fact activists. What's more, our movement in the only one in which the man who inspired it, also inspired those who support him to go out and READ authors!

Don't know if there can be a metric but I'd gather with the amount of minds he's directly awakened, if each of us were non-Matrixy energy units, we'd light up the entire world's electric grid for over a century!!!

seriously, has anyone ever heard of anyone wanting to hug Romney with a "I love you man, you changed my life, forever!"

THAT, is something no amount of MSM propaganda smears and revisionism, or NWO character assassinations can EVER take away.

Let's face it. WE are his legacy, not just Rand, and as of now, MORE than Rand.

With that in mind, I'm quite happy.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Most of the Tomatoes Are GMO Anyway

...and I don't want him eating them. Just hope his are heirlooms...like he is. A treasure for all times, to me.

I agree with everything you said but won't follow my inclinations to wax philosophical as, I know, I haven't learned dead-on and succint very well and at 63...I am what I am .

Thanks..keep writing. I almost always like what I read from you.

fonta

Actually, Kokesh started that

Actually, Kokesh started that by attacking Christianity as "being incompatiable with liberty", and his biography says he is Jewish, not an atheist.

So if you want to be sick of infighting, you can look at Kokesh. But if Kokesh does't like Christians, he can ignore it. That said, since Ron Paul is a Christian, it was an incredibly dumb thing to say.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

What?

Are you suggesting that the Liberty movement should not purge Christians in favor of Randian Objectivists?

Nah, I am only kidding. If Kokesh declares I am not a part of the liberty movement, because he has such say in things, I will gladly leave the hatefest he wishes to lead.

He reminds me of a Ayn Rand. Everything Rothbard warned us about her is coming true with him. The sad thing is that he hoped that libertarians would be immune once bitten. It seems that we have a different strain now and days. Adam has a cult personality geared toward the internet. I should know as I am of the internet.

I wish him well in all he does. (This is me being an evil Christian) I will do my own thing as I decide who my leaders are. That is Liberty. It is the same reason why I can accept Rand's decision, and at the same time condemn it. Rand is not my leader. He is only a focal point in the Senate.

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Selling Ron's email list of

Selling Ron's email list of subscribers to the Romney campaign is not what Ron did, but rather what his campaign has done. Ron isn't aware of this, and Adam has been doing a good job of defending Ron. Some are overreacting towards the good doc and putting the blame on Ron.

I don't believe Ron is part of some secret cabal. But I do believe there are leeches on his campaign.

My take on the opinion of those who endorse the Rand endorsement as some kind of covert and secret takeover as the GOP.

This video by Adam helps explain alot, and Adam has been helping to defend the good doc against some who are wanting to say Ron was part of this. Purge, purge, purge. I agree. Dr. Paul has been betrayed. And it's not so hard to figure out where to start...

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/02/02/can-ron-paul-b...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/trygve/olson

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
http://www.thethirdangelsmessage.com/wordpress/should-christ...

Start with Adam.

If you're looking for the betrayal.
It'll save you a lot of time.