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How Do Strongly Up-Voted Threads That Are Extremely Pertinent Get Moderated To "off Topic"?

Can someone explain?

I don't know anything about the moderation process here...if there even is a process. I don't know anything about the moderators either, or their inclinations.

Is it based solely on the opinion of whatever moderator is on duty at the time?

I supposed you couldn't have your thread deleted, "unpublished," or moved to the "off topic" wasteland unless it was strongly downvoted by the membership.

Apparently not, as my CRUCIAL THREAD about sabotage within the Ron Paul campaign with 45 UP VOTES in less than 12 hours has been shuffled off of the right forum to "off topic"--which it MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT:


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There is definitely something going on behind the scenes here:

Click on my name and read some of my posts that have been moved to the dreaded 'off topic' wasteland, even though they were very important posts.

I've raised questions about this myself. I've seen MANY very important posts here that have been trashed by moderators and sent to the off topic section so they can't be seen by mainstream; so they won't show up on the recent forum posts on the right side column.

I can dig up literally thousands of posts on this site that have absolutely nothing to do with Liberty or Freedom that are posted in current events or the Liberty forum that never get moved to off topic.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the moderators here are deliberately hiding important information from the masses by moving those posts to off topic, and allowing stuff like "what's your favorite recipe" to stay on the list to the right.

Of course I just made up the "what's your favorite recipes" reference, but you get the idea.

I sometimes wonder if certain moderators here aren't working for the dark side.


Because "they" don't like

Because "they" don't like you. life is not fair.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I was curious about that also.

It's been confusing me that I'll see Rand posts with negative upvotes at the top of the list and then see normal post about delegates or Ron Paul's campaign with plenty of positive upvotes not even be shown on top posts.

I Agree This Should Be Up There.

Go Steve

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why didn't you ask this question to the ones
why involve the whole family in a decision
or answer when it doesn't concern them?
why not go to the mod box and put the questions
you have to them there?
this is what i would do if i had a question
i would not take it each and every member
but to the ones who can answer it for me

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I did...

Still waiting for a reply...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

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i looked before

and i checked after my questions to you
i saw no questions from stevemartin to any mods
but i did see your name mentioned!!
it must have been deleted?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Top post at:


"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Maybe you need to read the House Rules

Click here: http://www.dailypaul.com/guide

Just a sample:

Engaging in flame wars or personal attacks on other members, racist or sexist remarks, posting obscene materials, inciting or encouraging violent or illegal acts, posting spam, bumping your own thread to keep it on the front page, posting the same non-related comment on multiple threads to promote your website or event (This is considered spam. The forums are a place for discussion, not advertising), blatant advertising and/or EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS is prohibited. If you cannot consistently spell or check your grammar, you may also be banned.

Repeated offenses will result in the termination of your account. As I stated at the beginning, participation in this site is a privilege, not a right. Ultimately, anything that I, as owner and Executive of the Daily Paul, decide reflects poorly on Dr. Paul and/or sullies the good and peaceful name of Ron Paul, the Daily Paul or said supporters is not welcome here. At the end of the day, the Daily Paul is my house. I set it up to honor, respect and promote Ron Paul and the principles of freedom and Liberty. Play fair and you're welcome to stay. Abuse what is offered and you will be banished.

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Why haven't they "enforced" these rules?

The past 3 weeks, all of these rules have been trounced upon and disregarded. The mods do nothing. They only respond when people talk about them.

Someone needs to post it in

Someone needs to post it in the moderator box maybe. Steven's bumped his own thread a gizilion times now with numbers. Think I will do that.

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Sounds good.

No violations here.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

In your alternate universe,

that is.

Move to

Off Topic.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

I think when Michael gets back from China, he should get rid of

some of these moderators and put new ones in.

I think

Michael is back. I might be wrong

I don't think he ever left.

I don't think he ever left. It's all a conspiracy. Didn't he leave around the time Rand endorsed Rmoney? Hmmm.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I'd be interested in hearing his take....

...on the patriot lawyers and their announcement that the grassroots is taking over the campaign WE FUNDED.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

This should be a thread on it's own

In the "Off Topic" section, of course. It would get tons of Up Votes. Funny how the moderators really are on top of threads like these, yet they totally ignore outside new provocateurs to take over and ruin the whole concept of Daily Paul.

Maybe the moderator thought

that your crucial post contained too many factual errors or had an inflamitory headline or something.

OK...so your saying...

...that an individual BACKUP moderator's personal thoughts over-ride the vast majority of members VOTED PREFERENCE?

Just trying to get a feel for the ground rules.


"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

So now,

you're attempting to take over this website by orchestrating a mutiny about that too, along with your hijack attempt against Ron Paul's campaign.

Is there anything you don't want to rule over, King Steve?

Should we bow down to you now, or wait for your command?

I didn't name myself "Big anything"...

...you did.


I am about keeping the movement from going totally OFF THE TRACKS in support of Rand-style compromise with evil.

You do what you want.

But, for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. You don't do that by getting in bed--not with just "some" enemy--but with THE enemy of everything Ron Paul stands for.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Yeah, THAT''S the ticket!

You'll "save it" by destroying it with your hijack and mutiny.

I've heard things like that before.

You're the enemy Steve. And you're proving it with this mutiny against Ron Paul, and trying to swerve this movement

You're an evil person Steve.

Isn't that name calling?

Just wondering....Anyway, I'm a big boy and can take anything you can dish out.

The vast majority of Ron Paul supporters (82.5% at last check) are WITH US that we are being betrayed by actions like yours and Rand Paul's.

Of course, things like facts don't bother the REAL HIJACKERS of the restoration movement. I've seen it over and over for decades.

Come out with bald face lies, repeat them over and over, louder and louder, shout down (or try to at least) legitimate dissent, and then claim victory, even when they have obviously lost.

WE ARE RESTORING RON PAUL'S LEGACY TO THE CAMPAIGN and taking it out from under the treasonous efforts of people like Trygve Olson and the Bilderberg attendee, Mitt Romney--and his supporters and endorsers.

THE FACTS ARE ON OUR SIDE. And so is the majority opinion of those who truly support liberty.

Your apologia for those trying to destroy the movement is really showing now.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

You can't take anything.

All you do is try to dodge, and use some bogus invention of the idea tha you have some "numbers" that somehow makes you have some sort of substance, in your self-aggrandized mind.

Numbers will never be substance Steve.
There are millions of dupes. That is no indicator of any substance or correctness.

You don't speak for me.

You don't speak for me. Personally, I'm sick of negative posts like yours. I find them disrespectful to people who are still trying to become delegates in the conventions. They need positive posts and support. This is nothing but demoralizing which is the last thing we need around here at this time. I think you like to "talk" to hear yourself speak. Please, pontificate in the off-topic section because your post does nothing to further the cause.

Blessings )o(


My posts at DailyPaul to a few dozens readers have so much more power to "demoralize" people than the campaign manager does when he emails THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS and tells them to behave and that we can't win.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

I'm gonna start posting all mine in "Off Topic" so they can't

mess with it. Lots of people don't even look at that. I just read the headline. Put all important stuff in off-topic and let's watch what they do with it.

Things have changed.

Grass roots have taken over. Make this viral.

The Romney campaign is being accused by lawyers of ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTS: violence, rigging machines to switch to Romney votes, intimidating RP delegates.

Romney will have zero delegates and every delegate will be allowed to vote according to their conscience. End of corrupt system.

Thank God Ron Paul did not give into this evil system and continue it by ENDORSING Romney. He held strong.


Everything has changed.