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A True Betrayal

Was Rand's Endorsement a Betrayal?

Gerald Ford was president in '76, after Nixon's resignation. The Reagan Revolution was as wild as ours is. The Republicans that fought it were the best people on the planet. There were, however, more informed Republicans that knew his record as California governor. He was a flip flopper, for sure, but there was no internet, so he was still not understood. Dr. Ron Paul led the TX delegation for Reagan. Rand's recent tea party book told about that convention. He was thirteen, at his dad's side. Can you imagine how he looked up to his dad, his hero and all the excitement?

My family lived through it as well. Our first son, Alan Jay Stang Jr., was one month old during that convention (and who, just this past weekend, was elected as a delegate for Ron Paul to Tampa!).

1976 was their 2008. The Reagan Revolution was building during the succeeding four years, leading up to the 1980 primary. Here is a TRUE betrayal.

Reagan vowed that he would never choose George H. W. Bush for his running mate. He exposed Bush as a globalist, a member of the Trilateral Commission, CFR, a liberal. There were top campaign people who privately kept pinning Reagan down on the Bush matter. I was honored to know one of them in the last year or so his life. This friend loved telling the story. He was an incredible man.

Reagan promised, cross his heart, hope to die, stick a thousand needles in his eye that he would not pick Bush. Well, you know what happened. Reagan stood before the 1980 Republican national delegates and announced that Bush would be his running mate. There was a gasp, a heart -broken gasp that was heard all over the convention arena. I guess the delegates discussed endlessly why Reagan did it. What should they do? Would they vote for him? "But wait, we have to stop Carter." And on and on.

So what is the contrast? Rand's endorsement of Romney will have no effect on the victory or loss for Romney over Obama. It only has an effect on us and how we deal with it. If that is what Rand has to do to become the leader in the Senate, then so be it. This gives senators the cover to work with him.

Reagan's was a true betrayal. His choice of Bush, catapulted him into the administration and changed history, 32 years of it. Rand is not putting Romney into the White House.

I believe that father and son know how devastating the end of this era could be. It has run its course. We've had sixty years of the right/left manipulation of the political process. I believe that they are trying to blunt the severity, turn things around, soften the landing. In Feb. 08, at an event, I passed by some of the Paul family speaking among themselves, privately. They were voicing their concern over what would happen if we didn't win. Yes, the same conversation all of us have had many times over.

Don't listen to sound bites. Watch what Dr. Rand Paul does in the Senate. Judge him there.

Gail Stang

Ron Paul 2012

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That was a great history lesson.

Thanks!

THANK YOU! Once Rand starts

THANK YOU! Once Rand starts voting like John McCain, then we have a problem. Yes anti-randers; I know he voted for sanctions on Iran, but what about his other votes, do they become meaningless as well? We need to stop talking about Rand in general or if we do, let it be positive. We are making ourselves look stupid by dogging the son of our movements leader. We should be more focused on getting Ron Paul elected, not bi***ing about his son's pandering.

Good points but Rand doesn't

Good points but Rand doesn't need Romney or the establishment to win in 2016. Thanks to his dad, we are the establishment in many states and we are going to triple our numbers by then.

Let's hope so!

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I think you might be making

I think you might be making it a little easier than it really is. The fact that Ron Paul people narrowly squeaked some victories for GOP leadership positions (which is AWESOME) does not mean we have full control the party. Even less does it mean that we could win an election without seriously changing some minds.

I'm very hopeful going forward, but let's not make it sound like a cakewalk.

Great article. Rand is

Great article.

Rand is simply using a strategy that other Liberty people have used a various levels of government. I have seen it used at the state level with outstanding success. You can influence people much easier if they think you are not against them. But many liberty people here at the daily paul do not understand this strategy at all. And many are criticizing Rand for offenses that don't even exist. Sorry Rand haters, the NWO has nothing that Rand Paul wants. So, where is the motivation to be a sellout? The motivation for Rand to be a Sellout doesn't exist, so don't worry so much.

Great explanation, Gail!

Jay will represent us all well!

Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947

I think the biggest issue is...

I think the biggest issue is the fact that when a politician endorses another, it is a plea for the endorsers supporters to agree with and support the agenda of the endorsee whether they agree or not they were asked to do so. It is a request to supporters. Why is it even an unwritten rule that one MUST endorse someone at all? especially if you do not agree with their agenda?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Agenda

The thing is, with Rand's endorsement, it brings in Romney people who don't care for Ron's speeches but perhaps do like Rand. As of now, the party is split between Romney people and Paul people. Many Romney people don't even know Ron is still running and then there are those that have heard lies about Ron and don't understand his ideas. And then there are others that won't vote for Ron simply because they feel his supporters are annoying. So, with Rand's endorsement happening now, it bring in the Romney people to the Paul side. When Rand runs for president, they will then vote for Rand because by then, hopefully, the party won't be so split unless Romney thinks he should run yet again.

My question to those that don't care for Ron is: Why vote for Romney when you say Romney is crooked? Paul supporters will only vote for Paul so there is no point in wasting your vote on Romney if he can't beat Obama. There is none other that can slam Obama down than Ron. He will have his own supporters along with Romney supporters, ex-Obama supporters and the younger generation. Obama will stutter constantly when faced with Ron on stage.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."

--Groucho Marx

I agree. Most people that

I agree. Most people that endorse, do it with the thought that they want their supporters to support the endorsed candidate, but Rand talked about this in a recent interview and he said that the liberty people should make up their own mind who to vote for.

thank you for your distinct dicernment and insight.

"So what is the contrast? Rand's endorsement of Romney will have no effect on the victory or loss for Romney over Obama. It only has an effect on us and how we deal with it. If that is what Rand has to do to become the leader in the Senate, then so be it. This gives senators the cover to work with him."

all of this is a waiting game now.

perhaps that's the most frustrating part of all.

I believe those who have the most uneasiness with Rand's recent development, aside from the legitimate questions regarding having neocons like Trygve Olson who by all account is still an interventionist, with the Paul family inner advisory core, are those of us who clearly see the utterly clearly mathematical inevitability of a looming currency collapse at the Fed.Res.'s current trajectory.

So, if one accepts the above premise, the question becomes is it worth it to play political games as if the current political paradigm is what will still exist from a few months to within the next two years? many us aren't so sure at current rate if there will even be a republic to speak of.

Nor, is Rand doubling down publicly with the dying neocon RINO faction within the GOP who are dying not only in influence but by nature of their age, often literally dying off, vs. the more vibrant, enthusiastic, growing, young, ACTIVIST base of the R3VOLution that his own father started, seem like a smart move.

who knows how this would all pan out.

Even with Doctor Paul as President Paul, I did not expect to see him avert a collapse, per se, but more of a sane Captain who will guide the ship through toxic waters before the ship bottoms out and steer it back to dry dock to have a full structural refitting and set sail again, with a de facto Austrian economist at the helm vs. political hacks, puppets, and utter imbeciles.

so who knows.

even in the immediate interim, until Doc addresses us on this issue, and what the political landscape will look like post-Tampa, no one can be certain if Rand's decision is the right one for him, for our movement, and Dr. Paul himself.

What he should've EXPECTED was the firestorm he would have created with such announcement. If all the Iago's fluttering about his ears actually convinced that we the R3VOL would simply fall in line, both Rand nor his crew haven't got the slightest clue what's going on here.

I believe THAT dynamic is the one that those of us who most vociferously challenge Rand' current play, is what we have an issue with.

but, as I've stated, it's all a waiting game till Tampa. Thus the angst, the gnawing in anticipation...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I think it's good to have

liberty people in all different areas. That way, we have good people on liberty's side whichever route our country takes. If things continue as they are for the foreseeable future, then we'll have Rand there running for president in 2016 and having a serious shot at winning. Who know what 2016 to 2020 would look like with Rand as president. Pretty exciting to say the least...