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Gary Johnson: Abolish The IRS!

Alex Jones Infowars interview with Gary Johnson:

http://youtu.be/1KHe0Tw1Cvo




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Are Mitt Romney supporters down-voting pro-GJ posts?

Please read: Is Mitt Romney scared of Ron Paul supporters switching to Gary Johnson?


"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."

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LL, go somewhere else to campaign for GJ

Everyone here already knows who he is. All you are doing is harassing us and cheerleading for the influx of (L)ibertarians who have come to this site to siphon us into their long failed movement. GJ is still a competitor of Ron Paul.

I downvote you every time I accidentally click on your attention-whoring posts. Stop insulting us as Romney supporters. You are delusional if you think that Romney is intimidated by Johnson (but I think you are just being immature and deliberately causing scene).

Grow up.

Mark how blind can you be?

Go to my DP page and look at all the pro Ron Paul activist posts I made just on this day.

Will you.

BTW It is ok with me when you promote taking of the LSD here on the Daily Paul (your comments here couple of weeks back).

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LSD is chemical, not a competitor for president against Ron Paul

And I have seen your posts. What do you want me to say? You mostly reposted articles. It just seems like you are constantly trying to redirect the attention back to you. That is not helping the liberty cause.

As long as Romney NeoCons insist on being like Obama, I can't

vote for them.

If I WANTED Obama, I would VOTE for Obama. Not just a white version of the same thing.

Therefore if Republicans and "Conservatives" want my vote - they have to get to be ANTI-Obama and LIKE Ron Paul!

And the closest confirmed candidate for President to Ron Paul is - Gary Johnson.

I LOVE RON PAUL!!!

Feels very strange to say that but its true.

He's woken us up.

And maybe Gary Johnson can carry the torch for a while.

It should be considered.

GJ

is clueless when it comes to understanding the corrupt income tax scam! Absolutely clueless!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Why are you idiots down

Why are you idiots down voting this? A liberty candidate is saying ABOLISH THE IRS! It's really too bad we can't actually have a conversation anymore.

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Thanks brother

The core of the down voting comes from Mitt Romney supporters who came here in the last couple of months.
Gary Johnson in their opinion will prevent Romney from winning.

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You inspired me to write this post

I posted this because of this comment!

Is Mitt Romney scared of Ron Paul supporters switching to Gary Johnson?


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Do you remember me

I was educating people about Ron Paul on Digg.com with you under the nick apexim.
Do you remember me?
Thank you so much for all your work.

We were posting good stuff from here on Digg.com

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That is SO NOT TRUE -- stop saying that.

the problem is with you... and others who will not address the arguments made against all you GJ lovers. Instead, you SPIN & PROMOTE.

If you want to have a SERIOUS conversation, one that will change MY MIND for example, you need to start by addressing these arguments found here: http://www.dailypaul.com/239219/the-libertarian-party-is-a-f...

Treg

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Sorry my friend

I observe things here.
Not blind.

When I saw this post getting down voted by 5 points within seconds I know something is fishy when BEFORE that it was being upvoted.

Who is afraid of people learning Johnson's views?
Why down vote that?
Why?
Tell me why down vote?
Are we back in the Soviet Union?

Alex Jones -- many hate him for having the courage of telling the truth. No matter how painful this truth is.
Thank God for INFOWARS site and for them doing this interview.

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If it comes down to Obama,

If it comes down to Obama, Romney, and Johnson, there are no serious problems with Johnson that would prevent any of us from voting for him. He has some flaws, but he is a solid liberty candidate.

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He is really fooling people

when he says that. All he is sying is lets end the IRS and steal hard earned money from those by instituting a fair tax, that way nobody will be able to detect the theft as easily. END THE IRS AND REPLACE IT WITH NOTHING!

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

That's a nice fantasy, but

That's a nice fantasy, but it's a fantasy. The government will cling to every dollar of revenue and they will NOT allow us to switch to a better system if it starves the beast.

That is the nature of our overlords. Unless you can get about 300 Rons and Garys into Congress. And even then, more than half of them will become our enemy within months of arrival.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

the problem is that you have no fantasy...

you cannot imagine that world...and as long as you can't, we will never get there.

Start fantasizing right now... Imagine it. Dream it. Make it happen.

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John Ashman.... allow yourself to imagine this..

Imagine that the Income tax ended and the IRS was abolished, and somehow, we held against the tide that demanded a "replacement tax" of some kind such as the "fair" tax.

Now go back to your reality.... what would REALITY happen once that happened.... can you imagine all the chaos from that? ...I can..... go ahead...imagine it since you are so "realistic"... imagine the REALISTIC chaos.... continue... expand and expand on it...horrible right? Lots of pain, lots of adjustments would have to be made immediately.

Now get this, its the price I want to pay. I want the bandage ripped off, ...would it be PAINFUL ?? You betcha.

Will American's heal?

Yes we will heal...we will adjust...we will make changes.... indeed, I am saying to you that an EXPLOSION of economic growth will come soon after like a tidal wave... now, you are realistic... imagine that explosion ... to reverse Ross Perot's phrase, the GIANT SUCKING SOUND will be the world's capital RACING to come into the USA. INVESTMENTS GALORE would poor in, we may even see a NEGATIVE Employment rate! That means NO ONE is Unemployed. Now, start fantasizing ...realistically of course.

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"There Is No Such Thing As A Fair Tax"

That was the response from his opponent in the Libertarian Party debate when Gary Johnson advocated for the Fair Tax.

Rothbard: "Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."

Any tax that taxes a

Any tax that taxes a particular thing proportionally is FAIR.

If you tax every dollar the same, it is FAIR.

A tax that taxes some people more for each of their dollars and another less for each of their dollars is UNFAIR.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

So, stealing is okay as long as everyone is stolen from equally?

If I steal from you and everyone else proportionally, am I stealing fairly?

If I steal your TV and your neighbors TV. is the theft then justified and "fair", because I stole from both of you equally?

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Do you think that....

"We're going to do away with all taxes" would get through?

No, But It Contrasted The Two Candidates

One approached libertarianism primarily from a moral standpoint, the other from more of a pragmatic one. Johnson isn't a full-blown libertarian, but he's learning and is starting to get it more and more.

That said, I'm still planning to vote for good doctor come November -- even, as someone here put it, if I have to write his name on the Diebold machine with a Sharpee.

Rothbard: "Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."

If you get rid of the income tax

And replace it with nothing, we would still be paying a ton of taxes.

I like Johnson a lot

This guy is really great.

I like Ron Paul's idea a lot better.

Dr. Paul says, let's abolish the IRS and the Income Tax and replace them with NOTHING.

Gary is right to want to abolish the IRS and income tax, but he makes a big mistake when he advocates for a "Fair Tax".

There is no such thing as a fair tax, taxation is theft.

A "Fair Tax" would net us the same amount of taxation, but give the government a new way to tax us. It would make it easier for them to hide their taxes as well, and if people aren't as aware of the theft, it makes it even easier for the government to steal more.

We don't need an income tax, and we don't need anything to replace it.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

While that's all technically

While that's all technically true, it is still the stuff of fantasy near term.

If you insist on only replacing the income tax with nothing, we will be stuck with it for beyond our lifeetimes, shot of an actual physical revolt.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

If we are "technically true" on that point, what are you? ...

"technically incorrect"?

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So since stealing will never go away...

So since stealing will never go away, do you think we should say that a little stealing is okay and advocate for it?

What about murder, should we advocate that a little murder is okay, since murder will never go away?

In the case of the "Fair Tax" you are eliminating one evil tax, and replacing it with an even more evil tax.

The "Fair Tax" wouldn't tax us any less, it would just hide the theft of taxation, and make it even easier for more theft to occur.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Good points Josh

Thanks.

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