I'm voting Ron Paul in 2012
Submitted by John Ashman - A... on Sat, 06/16/2012 - 18:14I'm being serious.
Yes, I prefer Gary Johnson by a small margin and believe he could be the future star of the Liberty movement. However, because I want to demonstrate that I'm not the Gary worshiper I am pegged to be, and because I DO think the movement is more important than the person, and because I want to set a good example, I hereby promise that I will vote for Ron Paul if he wins the nomination for the Republican Party OR if he breaks and runs as an independent on the ballot in at least 40 of the 50 states.
If that doesn't happen, rather than throwing my vote away and have it be counted and then discarded, never to make even the news, let alone a contribution, I will have a perfectly guiltless conscience in voting for Gary Johnson.
I feel that being rational and, yes, pragmatic (which means only to respond to reality and facts, not to "compromise" your beliefs) is more important than getting into a pissing contest about who is the better candidate when they are virtually identical in belief and each have their own strengths. Gary has 4 or 5 more election cycles in him, he's in excellent shape, so unless he were to have a heart attack or fall off a mountain or get hit by a car riding his bike, I have plenty of time to vote for him.
That being said, it would be NICE if Michael and the Mod Squad could put a forum subsection together for those of us who ALSO like Gary Johnson and would like to discuss him and also discuss the future of the Liberty movement in peace, harmony and liberty. Maybe instead of the Ron Paul 2012 forum, it could be called the "Daily Freedom Forum" or the "Tomorrow's Liberty Forum, "General Discussion" Forum, or "Daily Liberty Movement Forum", kind of separate but equal. You know, anything similar to that in which we can generally talk about other things rather than Ron Paul 2012, just in case the unfathomable happens. Because it seems there is a forum to discuss Ron Paul the candidate and nowhere to safely discuss the future of the movement.
Ron Paul 2012/Gary Johnson 2012





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double post - sorry...
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Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul
I just don't see
where these GJ posts are doing anything but causing controversy.
Why do it?
A DailyGJ site is what is needed - the two men are not the same - I would say Ron Paul is more of a Copnstitutional purist than a Libertarian purist.
Recall the 2011 Leno interview:
http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-12-17/ron-paul-joe-rogan-on-the-...
The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution
Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul
Because it's good to know the
Because it's good to know the candidates and because a lot of people saw Johnson as a threat and wanted to destroy his campaign from wthin the "liberty" movement to avoid the "competition" (support, really).
If I as a Gary Johnson supporter can vote for Ron Paul as Plan A (assuming he is on the ballot), surely you can consider Gary Johnson for Plan B.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
You are not voting for Ron Paul Ashman you are a TROLL
You actually think people are not taking note of the things you say about Paul everyday here?
I'm almost ready to start the betting pool on when you will get a permanent timeout.
November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul
Yes I am. If he's on the
Yes I am. If he's on the ballot. It's up to you guys to get him there.
Go ahead, start the pool.
My bet is that you get booted before I do with all of the name calling.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
John...John are you there John?
LOL...
(I apologize I just couldn't help myself and that was a long time coming)
November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul
you go start the forum
and send us a link.
we'll be waiting.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
Sir you have done nothing but promote GJ you are not for Ron
Paul anyone that looks at your posts can clearly see it.
Compromising with other candidates is still compromising.
It is very easy to see your goal is to elect GJ that's fine if that's what you want but it has no business on daily Paul.
You should start those boards on GJ website.
You will be voting for the Republican Nominee...
Ron Paul. Do your part. Spread the idea who's time has come.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6fqx...
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Well that seems reasonable
Lots of us here did the same thing last time with Chuck Baldwin. Nothing wrong with that decision at all. I'm truly hoping the national convention goes our way and no one needs to worry.
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I came to the dailypaul.com
I came to the dailypaul.com site for pertinent Ron Paul information. You people who keep posting about some other candidate, while we still have a nominating convention ahead is completely distasteful and disrespectful to all the liberty loving r3voLutionaries who have worked through system(game) causing a real revolution. Here is some advice, go make your own site and pay Michael the advertisement fee to get traffic.
Not it's not. I worked hard
Not it's not. I worked hard for the r3volution and I support this idea. Don't say all when it's some.
Give a reason for the
Give a reason for the downvote. Spineless people.
I'll give you 100 reasons
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Okay, so when Ron Paul says
Okay, so when Ron Paul says that he will not run for office again, do you advocate that the Daily Paul closes shop?
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
Talk about peace.gold.liberty
Talk about peace.gold.liberty (dailypaul.com), and support liberty candidates including Ron Paul and delegates who have not attended the RNC convention (2 months away) yet. Make your own dailygary site, I am sure Michael wouldn't mind letting you advertise on here (I dont speak for him though).
Understand I am speaking in the PRESENT tense since dailypaul.com is pertinent to RON PAUL since we still are finishing up conventions, primaries, and have a Nominating convention in 2 months.
So we won't be allowed to
So we won't be allowed to talk about any liberty candidates on the Daily Paul. Just Ron Paul and then if he doesn't win, ban all talk of other people. Just peace gold and liberty with no names being mentioned.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
Gary Johnson
is not exactly a "liberty candidate". He has a totally neocon foreign policy, doesn't want to end the Fed, isn't a constitutionalist, etc.
“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien
1. Yes he is. 2. Now he
1. Yes he is.
2. Now he doesn't.
3. Yes he does.
4. Yes he is.
Your facts are 180 degrees from reality.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
Wow, you don't even know your own candidate
Foreign policy:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gar...
Fed:
"[We should] Restrict Federal Reserve policy to maintaining price stability, not bailing out financial firms or propping up the housing sector." - not end it
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/economy-and-taxes
Constitution:
I could give many examples for this besides the Fed, but one is about gay marriage. Johnson wants to legalize gay marriage on a federal level; but the Constitution gives the Feds NO authority over marriage. Therefore, constitutionally there should be no federal law making it legal or illegal and it should be a state issue.
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gary-johnson-criticizes-obama...
“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien
He has ALSO said he will sign
He has ALSO said he will sign legislation that ends the Fed if they can get it to his desk.
As for the Constitution, show me a Constitutional purist and I'll show you Bigfoot.
Ron Paul is clearly no purist.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
For the time being!
Correct. Come back after August John if you like. For now, Go away and learn some economics and monetary policy.
August is too late. You
August is too late. You can spend the next two months wasting your time if you like, not me.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"
Thank you for this. You put
Thank you for this. You put my thoughts down on a page for me. I agree 99%. (Lost 1% only because I prefer Ron Paul over anybody)I hope that Michael is kind enough to do this. It will certainly put a stop to much of the arguing. RON PAUL 2012 AND 2016!!!! Gary can have his turn after.;-)
It would be interesting to
It would be interesting to know if Ron actually has intentions in 2016, implied or otherwise. I assume that he does not. He is already, some say, the oldest person to run for President. Rand implied that he wanted to give his father one last shot at the Presidency before he threw his hat in the ring. So I think Rand will run in 2016, and that Ron will retire permanently. I hope he keeps speaking up though.
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"