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Why Do They Hate Us?

I just came across this detailed powerpoint presentation on why our enemies might want to attack us. It covers Islam's motivations for revenge and the principle of "blowback" ... which you've no doubt heard about from Ron Paul.

This should have some valuable source material for slaying Neo-Cons across George Bush's Intertoobs.

Here is the link on Slideshare:

Why Do They Hate Us?

Question: Who thinks it would be a good idea to start a thread dedicated to smashing Neo-Con propaganda? Answer in the comments below and give some ideas that we can implement into a master thread.

Here's What the Typical NeoCon/Sheep Believes:

  1. They really believe Iran is going to be a nuclear threat unless we intervene
  2. They really believe Iraq had WMD's but the media is hiding it.
  3. They really have no clue why the FED is bad.
  4. They want cheap gasoline and don't care who it hurts.
  5. They really believe our country would falter without the income tax
  6. They really believe we're doing the world a favor by spreading democracy with force.
  7. They really trust people in power to do the right thing
  8. They really believe that people in power have their best interest in mind.
  9. They really believe those in power would ever intentionally lie
  10. They really believe the government takes better care of people than the private sector
  11. They really believe regulations are designed to protect people from big business

This is what we MUST combat!

Sh*t That NeoCons Say: "The US must conquer all other countries because they *may* become statist, repressive regimes who eventually *want* to attempt to acquire nuclear weapons. We must be what we are attemtping to prevent other countries from being so they can't have weapons that we currently have."

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that explains it all.

They hate us because...

Cowboy Western movies and series are no longer being made. ;)

donvino

Why?

http://youtu.be/zHd6m_cirrU

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

They hate us?

seems when talking to neo cons they are the ones doing the hating. The right wing so called Christians seem to be the ones filled with hatred and fear of ALL Muslims and most don't know the difference between one ME country and another. The ignorance is so deep with so many it seems it would take years to get them to understand any of it IF you can even get them to want to. I try and get the deer in the head lights look usually followed by insane arguments about how they want to kill us all and are commanded to do so by Islam.

I wholeheartedly agree,

I mess with people like that on World Net Daily. Hey, that reminds me... we should do a post like this...

5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe About Islam

Clear-headed,

thanks for the link, - they are quite open-minded, they have researched and done their home-work. Confident too, they invite, =
"Do you have an idea in mind that would make a great article? Then sign up for our writers workshop! "
I have bookmarked - to visit again -later.

My brother and I made this PowerPoint!!!

What a surprise to see it on the DP! I presented this to my class when I was a senior in high school. It was great.

No one can find a safe way out if society is sweeping towards destruction. Everyone,in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. None can stand aside with unconcern; the interests of everyone hang on the result. - LvM

Then that would mean...

... your brother is Erik. That's the name of who posted the link to the powerpoint where I found it on tomwoods.com

That's right

Since my brother is a former Rush Limbaugh 24/7 member neocon - he knew all of the arguments and concerns they all have because he once shared the same feelings. With his political history, we were able to create the perfect storm of information in the PowerPoint for any neocon.

No one can find a safe way out if society is sweeping towards destruction. Everyone,in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. None can stand aside with unconcern; the interests of everyone hang on the result. - LvM

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I think it's a good idea.

Any tools that we can build to help each other to better educate ourselves and then educates others is hugely helpful. I find entering in debates with people often only leads to more disagreements as people don't like being proven wrong. A good place to start is to find that one point no matter how insignificant it may be that you can agree on and then build on that by giving people facts. Another good point is to not bet _attached_ to the outcome of your debate/conversation. Be committed to finding common ground and deeply knowing your facts so you can educate people. As we all know, the main reasons for neocon's opinions is because of sheer ignorance or because they have some vested personal interest in believing that crap. The key is finding a way to penetrate their armor with some truth.

And here's a good video that explains some of the real reasons and power struggles going on in the middle east. This is literally putting us on the verge on WWIII.... I find this video well put together and in your face with some truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4vD6JpJAFI&feature=g-user-u&....

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Scheuer and Giuliana are both right and both wrong.

why they hate us is mainly bec of the us constitution and a remote second is bec we are over there.

define 'we'. are you referring to the 19 saudis that did the terrorist act. or are you referring to billion plus muslims. are you assuming they all hate us? you know, far too many muslims live here as well, so are you saying they hate their own supposed country?

to go about debating in a heated manner about 'why they hate us' i think is kind of irresponsible and entices more division.

scheuer is not entirely right. he is taking the side of islam. what scheuer would say is what bin ladin would say. giulini goes overboard and also says we should force this 'freedom' onto others.

jj

Funny...

This goes to show you didn't read the post or follow the link. You were in such a rush to offer your 2 cents, you stumbled and fell into answering a rhetorical question.

You would be a good recruit for Islamic jihadists

and a good recruit for the obamaney government/army due to your protection of Islam, including in its most extreme states.

You are causing more useless fighting and bickering with half baked information with this 'why they hate us'. who the heck is 'they'.

when you deny that radicals in the world, including many muslims, do indeed hate the us constitution, then you are a hater of liberty and enforcer of tyranny. it seems your goal is to bring down christianity (and i'm not talking about the sick glenn beck version), and to do that you stand toe to toe with liberal media and islamists. hence, your claim of being anti-estab makes you a hypocrite.

remember, all governments of islamic countries have given the us full permission to be there. and jihadists are just using this as a bait for recruiting and entice violence. and you are one of those who is using this to bring about chaos, instead of presenting and working on solutions.

it seems your only solution is 'down with the christians'.

jj

Lay off the

diet soda, it's comprimising your critical thinking. BTW whith your reasoning of why radicals hate us, the only solution is to desecrate and dissolve the US Constitution, and hey, we are getting that now. If 'Islam' hates the US Constitution, the only way to stop the hate would be to get rid of the Constitution. If that were to be the reason they hate us, you either fight it by slowly dissolving that document like we are, or you give up the fight, stop swatting the Bee Hive, and mind our own business. You are more likely to get killed by a cop in this country then by some 3rd world person wearing a bed sheet waging a 'jihaad.' LMAO And hey, do you drive? Thought so, maybe we should delcare 'war on automotive transpertation,' after all more people die in car accidents than the 3rd would cave dwellers. Heck, better yet, lets go all out and wage war on everyone's hearts. You know in the Good Ol USA the biggest cause of death is heart disease. LMAO more people die here in the us from bee stings, get ahold of yourself.
**edit
Wow that is weird how 'Costitution' is the first word of 3 lines in a row. Also, not meaning to anger you or instigate, but it is just so frustrating. Also, if you fight a war against 'Islam,' you fight war against all religions, for the US Constitution acknowledges our natural right to freedom of religion.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Think this might bother some of them?

If someone is going to thump a Bible as a reason to fight all of Israel's wars for her, maybe they should read this...

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." -- Revelation 2:9

quote needs more content/clarification

so revealation is saying that when someone says they are a jew, they are infact not a jew at all, but part of satan?

i don't think jews or those of other faiths would adhere to a quote that says that whatever religion they are is infact not thier religion that they have been practicing.

so, then what is a jew according to revealations?

jj

send that to Glenn Beck ASAP!

Glenn Beck the Propagangelist

"I am Troll fighter, number one"

-Ernest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWb-ViejPg

Finally

we agree.

Hey GOP, where's my vote?

The only thing better than winning a war against the USA

is losing a war against the USA.

Because the USA always restores your country to better than it was before the war! You get all kinds of free stuff...

Wake up!

They can NEVER restore the all those precious lives they've taken nor all the pain and sorrow that goes on and on for all the survivers.
Murderers.......damned murderers!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Because they hate...

...THE TRUTH.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

???

The title of this post is a rhetorical question.

"Why They Hate Us"

Is there any detailed powerpoint presentation on the Neocons' motivations and why they hate America's freedoms?

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

I don't think so...

Doesn't mean we can't make one... that's kind of the point of this post; figuring out what makes these people tick and how to defuse them.

a pp needs to be made on you and how to defuse you

as you present a great danger to the world, by fighting for radical islam and clearing the path for them.

and i'm not joking either.

your fear mongering of the aipac and jews and the us government. just everyone except cair and radical islam and muslim brotherhood. you must be thrilled at the violent so-called 'arab spring' as it is ushering in great times for you and your partners like bin laden.

jj

NeoCons are Merely Another Manifestation...

...of Collectivism.

That is the 'they' that oppose liberty. 'They' come from the left, center and right. 'They' encompass a variety of socioeconomic positions and views.

The Ethic of Collectivism is where my opposition is focused, regardless of from where it manifests, e.g. liberal, fascist, socialist, communist, capitalist, conservative, neoconservative, religious tyrants and on...and on...and on...

That aside, the propaganda arm of government and their masters (the main stream media) certainly do spew dogma, to left, center and right collectivists. Wait till they gain control of the internet to really see a lock on information and draconian controls as to 'what' information that the herd is allowed to be exposed to.

And so it goes...

Fight the fight is a task that we all must do, but are you prepared for what is almost certain to come, really?

The truth about "They"

"They" REALLY do hate us for our freedoms!
That is the truth!

"They" are those within our very own U.S. government, from the very top on down of course.

"They" do not want "us" living a life of freedom from oppression, tyranny and dictatorship. That would leave "Them" out.

Yes, "They" really do hate us for our freedoms!

I suppose Venezuela would be next on the list....they have oil and they have "terrorists" that "hate us for our freedoms"

Oh, may Almighty God remove them from the face of the earth, these demons who do such wickedness!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

All of that is true!

Because as a former neo-con I believed it all! Forgot to add something. Neo-cons believe that only Fox News tells all truth. They practically worship the words of Rush Limbaugh. Almost all of them vote straight ticket Republican without even knowing most of the people running for office(they trust all and only Republicans). Most of them do not even know what the NDAA is, and because Fox doesn't speak about it, they think it is irrelevant. Most of them are truly good people, they are just brainwashed and uninformed. Most of them cherish the 2nd Amendment, and if that is messed with...their eyes might open.

As a rehabilitated (former) neo-con...

I agree with this statement. :)

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie