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Rand Paul responds to Romney comments on attacking Iran without congressional approval

Opposing Unconstitutional Wars
By Sen. Rand Paul
June 19, 2012 4:00 P.M.

Much has been speculated and written since my endorsement of Mitt Romney for president. Many in the liberty movement and my longtime supporters wondered if, as a result of endorsing someone for office, I would stand up to them when they went astray.

The question to me is as strange as the answer is simple: Yes, strongly. Every time.

I have always done what I believe and I have never been blinded by party. In my time in the United States Senate, I have opposed the USA Patriot Act, voted against the NDAA over indefinite detention, fought to end mandatory minimum drug sentences, and voted against my party’s official budget because it didn’t cut enough spending.

I introduced a resolution against an unconstitutional war in Libya, and tried to repeal the authorization for the unconstitutional war before that in Iraq.

I don’t believe any fair look at my record will show blind partisanship — or partisanship of any kind. I have worked with Senate Democrats on civil liberties, and the House Black Caucus on the drug war. I have fought alongside the ACLU on civil liberties, and at times, I have fought all by myself on federalism issues.

I endorsed Governor Romney for many reasons, not the least of which is that we simply cannot afford four more years of President Obama. Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, an out-of-control EPA and NLRB, and trillion-dollar deficits are combining to strangle our economy. I am afraid if that chokehold is not released quickly, our country may quickly follow Europe into destruction. Anyone who doesn’t believe there is a difference between the two candidates on economic issues is simply not looking or not being honest with their assessments.

Where I don’t know if there is as much of a difference as I would like is foreign policy.

Let’s first be clear: President Obama was elected on a platform of ending wars, yet he has opposed every effort made by me and others in the Senate to do that. He opposed my resolution to end the Iraq War. He has refused my urgings to end the war in Afghanistan more quickly. He started another war in Libya, and this time went further into unconstitutional territory than previous presidents by not even seeking Congressional approval whatsoever.

I opposed him when he did that. Anyone who believes President Obama is less aggressive internationally than his predecessors is mistaken.

I do not yet know if I will find a Romney presidency more acceptable on foreign policy. But I do know that I must oppose the most recent statements made by Mitt Romney in which he says he, as president, could take us to war unilaterally with Iran, without any approval from Congress. His exact words were:

I can assure you if I’m president, the Iranians will have no question but that I will be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world. I don’t believe at this stage, therefore, if I’m president that we need to have a war powers approval or special authorization for military force. The president has that capacity now.

This is a misreading of the role of the president and Congress in declaring war.

The Constitution clearly states that it is Congress that has the power to declare war, not the president. The War Powers Act also clearly states that U.S. forces are to engage in hostilities only if the circumstances are “pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.”

Absent these criteria, the president has no authority to declare war.

Even if the president believes he has such authority, the War Powers Act goes on to require the president to seek congressional approval within 60 days of conflict.

No president is above the law or above the Constitution.

Our Founding Fathers were quite concerned about giving the power to declare war to the executive. They were quite concerned that the executive could rule like a king.

Before sending our young men and women into combat, we should have a mature and thoughtful debate over the ramifications, the authorization, and the motives of the war. James Madison wrote that the Constitution supposes what history demonstrates, that the executive is the branch most interested in war and most prone to it. The Constitution, therefore, with studied care vested that power in the legislature.

I will hold accountable and oppose any actions from any president, Republican or Democrat, if he declares war without congressional consent.

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Thank you ...

Senator Paul for this clear statement of your position on unconstitutional wars.

Bump

Great article Rand

The National Review?

The National Review? The National Review? That Neo-con rag The National Review?

Just read some of the comments below the opinion piece.

The National Review?

Now that IS disturbing!

So why endorse Romney before

So why endorse Romney before the votes have been counted? Surely, you have more leverage to alter Romney's stand on any issue while the nomination is still in contention.

How hard is it for your numbskulls

to understand that Rand is playing the game of politics? He's using a different angle to get ahead and possibly make a bigger difference than Pops. Its not hard to figure out - you f'ng retards.

Wow, you're funny.

Ron Paul is a teacher. That is what he does. Ron hasn't even be able to save raw milk in this country and you think his young, inexperienced son is going to take on the neo-cons? Trick them into falling apart or becoming peaceful? What an outrageous theory. Rand is saving his butt. Now WE ignore him, show them we are not sheeple, and we continue to teach.

Like I said how hard is it to understand....

Rand is taking a different approach in making a difference in our country. I base that on what he's already done and I don't believe the apple falls far from the tree (with a father like Ron). Rand could care less about his job as a senator...he was doing perfectly well as a doctor just as dad was, but he felt (like his dad) compelled to do something about the mess we're in. And he saw what the inside is like and took a DIFFERENT approach....can you grasp that concept? Is it really that hard to understand? He may make difference, he may not....we'll see. Have you been to a Republican meeting? If you say you're not going to endorse the republican nominee, you're an outcast. Thats my personal experience....I have to sit there and say things "whoever the nominee is I'll vote for him." And when those neocons say we must beat Obama. I shake my head in agreement. Why, because I feel I won't get far if I say Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul. Understand yet, or should I write it in crayon for you?

thanks for clearing something up for me

well well.
thank you for calling the people
that dont trust him
"****** retards".

Anytime

You're welcome

The Republican Party only

The Republican Party only supported his senatorial bid after he assurred them that he would be a team player. We know what team players are like - Gingrich, Santorum, Romney, Huntsman, Perry, Bachman, Caine - a man of the people is always odd man out.

bump. good job, Rand.

bump. good job, Rand.

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He is playing politics, I

He is playing politics, I don't like it or agree with it but it is the path he has chosen. He is one of us, we have to grow the movement. We have to reach those who are asleep, wake them up, accept them and expand the liberty tent. That is what Rand is trying to do, the NeoCons and the Bill Kristol's want to get us out of the party so they marginalize and dismiss us through the establishment machine they have built.

This is what they did to Pat Buchanan and even in Kristol's own words he wants Ron AND Rand out of the party. Because then they are no longer a threat. If you want to piss off a Neocon get even more active in the party, take it over. No one here will ever vote Romney, Rand knows that. We will write in Paul. I will back Rand's play until he proves me wrong with his actions.

Well...whether we disagree or

Well...whether we disagree or agree on the first point, it will be very interesting to see if Beck and Hannity turn on him because of this. This will definately make them more leery of him. I suspect that he would have to launch another blast like this for them to treat him as a pariah, however.

That's ridiculous. What does

That's ridiculous. What does Rand have to do to be called a "libertarian?" Advocate abolishing the entire federal government? Rand is obviously a libertarian, but just a right-leaning libertarian. Ron and Rand are both right leaning libertarians.

Rand Paul himself says he is not a libertarian

Rand Paul plainly said "They thought all along that they could call me a libertarian and hang that label around my neck like an albatross, but I'm not a libertarian,"...
From the March 17th Time magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1972721,00....

People simply assumed he was just like his dad.

I didn't put that comment in

I didn't put that comment in the right place. I was trying to respond to someone who claimed that Rand isn't a libertarian.

He isn't a libertarian. He

He isn't a libertarian. He supports the WOD and sanctions on Iran. Having said that, I think he deserves praise on this particular point as a constitutional conservative....but let's have no illusions about him. It does neither him, nor us, any favors.

Poor Rand... what a cluster F***

After commenting earlier http://www.dailypaul.com/241109#comment-2572413 I went into National Review and read the comments. Just as I suspected. The neocons never KNEW he felt this way, and now they hate him TOO.

So now the liberty wing feels he "sold them out" and the neocon conservatives think he "fooled them".

THIS IS WHY RON WAS SO INCREDIBLE AND UNUSUAL. He never let anyone misunderstand where he stood, he never backed down, and he never cared what people thought.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

I'm still mad at Rand but

I'm still mad at Rand but this speech deserves gigantic praise especially if we have no illusions that Rand is one of us. He can be a valuable ally but we (and he) make a big mistake when view him as part of our movement.

Every time I hear Rand speak now

I get nauseous- and while he's right (of course) in criticizing Romney, he's also delusional to think that Romney will spend any less or reduce any federal department. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Quit making excuses for your endorsement. You f***** up, time to man up and admit it.

I don't understand how you

I don't understand how you can endorse a man who has said this before and who supports torture, NDAA and on down the line.

But I am glad to see Rand at least saying he disagrees with Mitt and list the reasons why.

damnit!

No more wars! What is wrong with these people?? All the F-ing neocons need to be dragged by their ears into the middle of Baghdad and see a home that has been incinerated by a missile, with all of the burned bodies of women holding their children. My country disappoints me so much. Why can't we stop this? I feel like we have failed so many people. I cannot stand neocons. Endorsing, compromising, anything...they are the most evil, disgusting people on earth. I am sorry if I offend any ex's, but how on earth can we justify neverending bloodshed? It is so obvious that this is done to serve very few. People in other countries are just trying to live day by day and take care of their families, just like us. These aholes in suits are the perpetrators of hell on earth.

Yep. I second that...Neocons suck..and guess what else....?

Rand is dumb for backing Romney, to think he could trick Republicans into thinking he will play nice....he disagrees with almost everything they represent. They will spit him out real quick and it looks like it is already starting to happen.

I am glad he made this clear

I am glad he made this clear statement. It does make me feel a bit better about him. He really made me mad, but I can forgive him when I see his heart is in the right place. Sigh.

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Ron is winning the hearts and

Ron is winning the hearts and minds and Rand is the spear infiltrating the party. It is so obvious after reading this. This is their strategy Ron will recruit more people to movement and Rand will go mainstream. Trust them, stay focused on our goals, don't get distracted. Rand believes like his father does but he is playing politics. While we may disagree with it, it is the path they have chosen. Maybe Ron learned something in the last 30 years that told him this was the way forward now.

Keep fighting for Liberty, support those who support us, don't let the establishment distract and divide us.

Rand did a wonderful job in

Rand did a wonderful job in this article and deserves kudos but I disagree with you. Rand is better viewed as a "constitutional conservative" who can be a valuable ally on many issues but he his not in any sense "one of us" or part of our movement. If we adopt that approach, we can avoid illusions or false hopes on both sides.

He is playing politics, I

He is playing politics, I don't like it or agree with it but it is the path he has chosen. He is one of us, we have to grow the movement. We have to reach those who are asleep, wake them up, accept them and expand the liberty tent. That is what Rand is trying to do, the NeoCons and the Bill Kristol's want to get us out of the party so they marginalize and dismiss us through the establishment machine they have built.

This is what they did to Pat Buchanan and even in Kristol's own words he wants Ron AND Rand out of the party. Because then they are no longer a threat. If you want to piss off a Neocon get even more active in the party, take it over. No one here will ever vote Romney, Rand knows that. We will write in Paul. I will back Rand's play until he proves me wrong with his actions.

Good for Rand. I hope that

Good for Rand. I hope that this trend continues.

bump

well said and I believe Rand