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Your Son Just Went to the Dark Side!

How would you feel?

Ron Paul is a man who lives what he believes. He has obviously been lead by his heart, which brings him in deep connection with each of his children. He, as you would suspect, did not pass the buck when it came to raising and mentoring these miracles of life, which he fathered.

Now your son, probably your closest friend outside of your wife; who you live with in DC; who you thought you knew (if you knew anybody); tells you he has made a deal with the devil!

How would you take it?

Would you get on national television the next day to distance yourself from your own son?

Come on…we are talking about Ron Paul here! A man of compassion and sensitivity; a man who has not compromised in all these many years; a man watching his son make a compromise of great magnitude. How deeply has it cut him? Can we at least give him some space for a minute……?

But it gets worse…You find out your son was the door through which evil co-option was brought into the midst of your campaign; a campaign to bring life and liberty to the entire nation!

Ron Paul has spent a lifetime facing evil without; now he must face it within!

Listen to your spirit….take a moment…have some deep compassion for the man whose life and mission has made such a great impact on yours………..

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Can we lay off the Rand

Can we lay off the Rand bashing? SEVERAL of us Paul supporters think Mitt would be better than Obama, and some have indicated they will support Romney in November.

SEVERAL Paul supporters think Obama is better than Mitt and have endorsed Obama...

And several have endorsed Gary Johnson (like me!)

But we are all on the same team. Team Jacob Liberty!

Penny Langford Freeman

Penny Langford Freeman said in an interview I just heard that her sources stated Dr. Paul had little notice of his sons endorsement and when he became aware of it he stared off into space for a half hour.

My purpose in this article was to simply pause and reflect upon the human toll this is taking on Dr. Paul.

This gentleman remains the brightest hope for this country I have known in my 65 years on the planet and my heart goes out to him as, he know doubt, grieves over his son.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

It is the manner / tone /choice of words in which Rand endorsed

his loverboy romney. It was clear Rand was going to do this months as he gloated about Romney with his eyes full of love and subservience. Rand believes he was 'sent to Washington to fight all those who oppose Romney', especially his conservative rivals like Newt and Perry, etc...

If he was forced to endorse, he could have done it as so many others have done it - that is leave it bland and simple. but rand spiced it up by saying 'romney is precisely what this country needs', that he would be respectful with foreign policy, that his corrupt bus exp is good, etc....

Rand lied that Romney was for the audit in the past. romney was on a mainstream media interview in 2008 saying as president, he believes an audit is waste of time and that he would focus his time elsewhere.

Rand is protecting and upholding the dark side. What Rand did was unnecessary. He could have undermined the endorsement and said he doesn't really like romney or doesn't think he would be best for the country, but that he might be a bit better than obama, so in order to avoid obama again, he was going to have to choose the less of the two evils.


move to Kentucky and vote

move to Kentucky and vote against him in 4 years...

Those who campaign against

Those who campaign against Rand are foolish.. Rand is in office and you can't change that for 4 more years. If you don't live in Kentucky you really don't even have a vote. I imagine you will have a chance to not donate to a money bomb (in 4 years). You are campaigning way to early. You can bash Rand to a million people and guess what he is still in office 4 more years. Your efforts would be much more effective in the liberty movement to support a liberty candidate who will be on the ballot this cycle. If you enjoy the negative campaigning pick a liberty hater who will be on Novembers ballet and bash them all over the net.

Don't you people understand...

Compromise and Endorsements of pathetic candidates = POWER
Just think how powerful our country could have become if we had just compromised with the English and endorsed the King.

please excuse my sarcasm but this compromise c*** is just fine if you are Newt or Santorum supporter, but it will NEVER WORK FOR ME!

Rand put Party over Principle

It was a pragmatic decision that he made to gain a senate seat not unlike those made by practically every other person in congress.

His father, on the other hand, has walked the line of conviction and uncompromising honor for decades. He is the moral equivalent of a George Washington and this country desperately needs a George Washington in 2012.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

Following the false premise, Rand endorses.

I don't agree, at all.


Free includes debt-free!

Rand Haters

Are still showing up here trying to divide us???


No it is just people who

No it is just people who don't understand he is already in office for 4 more years... They act like he is on the ballot in November (campaigning against him). They could actually being doing something for liberty.. Like campaigning for a liberty lover who will be on the ballot this cycle. If them must be negative they could be campaigning against a liberty hater who is on the ballot in November... But, no.. they choose to campaign for a campaign that is many cycles away.. I guess it is way for folks to vent... useless for liberty...

I do not hate Rand

I'm sad that he has felt it necessary to make deals with the RNC to become a senator. I'm sure this is very painful for him as well as Ron. Everyone, including myself, has made compromises. Unfortunately they often lead to bigger compromises. When Rand voted for sanctions on Iran, I knew the freedom movement was in for some introspection..

Ron Paul believes in freedom. Rand has made the choice to declare economic war on Iran...

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

Why don't you take this bunk somewhere else?


People are still talking

People are still talking about this? ....

Didn't you guys get the memo.... WE DONT CARE!!! And would appreciate it if you were to sow your seeds of discord at the dailyjohnson or dailyromney. TY.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

There is no point to this

There is no point to this post other than to stir things up.

Oh, there's a point to it.

These are the same evil infiltrators that worked so hard last week to destroy the campaign.
They are still at it.
There will be more of them showing up here on this thread to try to finish off the job, because that is why they joined up, and why they are here.

The only people that worked hard to destroy the campaign

are embedded into the campaign. Like I said previously to you someday the blinders will come off or you will remain in your ignorance. Your choice.

Submitted by joeschmo on Tue, 06/19/2012 - 17:34. Permalink

Last month everyone was ecstatic that we were on the verge of winning this thing. We had what, 10 states? Then they quit, and Rand pulled his crap. Now we are supposed to be ecstatic again because Ron Paul won't endorse Romney. He doesn't have to, he quit. I'm glad he's not endorsing, but I was expecting so much more.


Vote up!
Vote down!
Still haven't figured out what happened
Submitted by PollMan on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 04:36. Permalink

Everything you said was mostly true with the exception of 10 States. Some didn't work out how we had hoped either by mistakes made by Paul delegates,or by concerted effort by the GOP,RNC and other candidate team delegates blocking and manipulating things unfairly by not playing by the rules so it didn't play out as wins for us like it should have.

Second. There are 2 people in the campaign that shut it down to a grinding halt and if people do not believe this was a planned,concerted effort they are naive.

Trygve Olson is controlling Jesse Benton that's what decimated the momentum and that is a fact and the coup started with Jesse's first 'misspoken' announcement that Ron Paul had to come in and clean up.


Do your own investigation of Trygve to see who he is and where he came from and who sent him.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Pure fiction

You have ZERO facts.
What you have is conjecture. Certain things which you are not in a position to decide or control happened 'without your approval" and so you invented a make-believe conspiracy that just happened to attack everybody and everything around Ron Paul, and split his supporters away from supporting his campaign, right at the crucial moments before the convention.
If you have evidence that Trygve Olsen or anybody else in Ron's staff did ANYTHING that Ron Paul didn't approve of in this campaign, then let's see it.

I'll save you some time. There is no evidence.

It's even worse...

...our hero, betrayed by both son (Rand) and grandson-in-law (Jesse Benton), who were the means by which a professional spook subvertor/CIA color revolutions black op mastermind (Tyrgve Olson) wormed his way into a position of influence in the Pauls' campaign organizations.

But, ultimately, Ron Paul betrayed himself by letting family ties trump the responsibility he had to steward his supporters hard-earned campaign donations, maximize their return for the cause of liberty and protect his political legacy.

Where are the men & women

Like Lafayette, Knox, and Franklin who, on their own nickle, laid their lives and their fortunes down for a cause bigger than life that was embodied in the man, George Washington..

These men who surround Ron Paul filled a vacuum other men and women should have filed.. They did it for immediate gain or worse.

It's not too late for others that share the deep heart of Ron Paul to come to his side! Help me find them!

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

Well, I Am Here

...and thank you for you for your post. What would liberty really be...without compassion.


It Would be as Sounding Brass, or a Tinkling Cymbal

Faith, Hope, and Love
and the greatest of these is Love

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

Thanks Rick Mann

...your post was several months ago as well as my reply. Your answer to my question was true 2000 years ago and will be true 2000 years from now and beyond. I enjoyed finding your post this morning.

"...like sounding brass or tinkling cymbal."
........And the greatest of these (faith, hope and love) is love.

I am still thinking about it!


That's some pretty good fiction.

and not a shred of evidence for ANY of it.

Did you make that up yourself, or did somebody pour that poison in your ear before you regurgitated it out here?

The Trygve Olson saga...

..is well known to those paying attention. Justin Raimondo was among the first to warn of this viper in our midst:


Let's see the evidence

that he did ANYTHING that Ron Paul didn't approve of.

You have nothing. Raimondo has nothing either. It's smear by innuendo, and you know it, and he knows it.
You are an agitator here, with nothing to stand on.

None So Blind - As Those Who Will Not See

You're not so "big" in my book, t. . .but your refusal to READ THE FACTS that SO many people have put before your eyes - at this point, is ludicrous.

You are the chief finger pointer on here - and I've seen you on other threads - as soon as anyone has the audacity to put the FACTS out there - you rush in, calling them names, making false accusations, and obviously do NOT read what is put before you.

Your complete disregard for truth is underwhelming. Why don't you go find someone new to pick on. These people, who chose to SEE the truth/facts, are going to become more numerous than you're going to have time to chase around the Daily Paul, pulling your Donald Sutherland, "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" screech upon (refresher view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo).

None of us are abandoning Ron Paul - at least I'm not. His name will be on my ballot, no matter what.

HOWEVER, this country got into this MESS by people NOT looking at the facts and being shamed into silence by people like YOU. WE WILL BE SILENT NO MORE - and we WILL speak truth - and we will NOT go back to what we have now. Openly discussing matters (rather than forced subversion - by YOU) - even if there are disagreements - is HEALTHY.

Lest you should forget - FREEDOM is what we're about. . .and I want to be FREE to exchange thoughts, ideas, concerns, WHATEVER without the threat of intimidation/false accusations/finger pointing from those of YOUR ILK.

Crawl back in the censorship hole from whence you came - and allow those, who are REAL patriots to converse FREELY!

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels


You described yourself perfectly.

If you ever had ANY idea what truth is, you have obviously abandoned it now.

You have a huge disconnect

Jesse Benton has repeatedly made statements on his own that directly contradict what Ron Paul says. He has done this throughout the campaign and did it again yesterday but I know you didn't see it because that couldn't happen right? Because he gets approval from Ron Paul for every word he utters through his deceptive words.

Ron Paul states yesterday 6/20/2012 that he was aware of the delegate lawsuit and although he was not involved his thoughts were that if people thought that they had grounds or felt wronged that he was supportive and didn't have an issue with it.

Jesse Benton same day "We have nothing to do with it and do not support it," said Paul adviser Jesse Benton.


Ron Paul Campaign Statement Concerning RNC Rule 11

“Chairman Priebus has always treated Dr. Paul and our team with respect, and we appreciate his leadership.” – Jesse Benton

LAKE JACKSON, Texas – Responding to complaints that the Republican National Committee has violated Rule 11 by setting up RNC Victory Operations while Dr. Paul still seeks the nomination, the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign issued the following statement.

Below please find comments from National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton:

“In April, the RNC asked our campaign for our blessing to begin assembling the Victory organization Republicans will require to guarantee a win in the fall. Building such an operation is no small undertaking, and our Party needed to build in a few months what the incumbent president has been building for four years.

“The RNC offered to set up a joint fundraising committee with the Paul campaign and were very clear that if Dr. Paul became the nominee, the Victory Operation would be behind him 100 percent. They also were clear that they would hold off if our campaign objected. I gave my full consent for the RNC to move forward.

“Chairman Priebus has always treated Dr. Paul and our team with respect, and we appreciate his leadership. He has been an outstanding chairman and has our full confidence.”

Benton works with RNC to violate RNC rules before there is a clear nominee. I guess that is too much for you to deal with though.
That fact is is part of the lawsuit filed.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

You're the one with the "huge disconnect".

And not only is it a disconnect,but you have a massively damaging position that is destroying every part of Ron Paul's efforts, and you are actively trying to peel off support for him at every turn.

On the other hand, I have done everything to support Ron Paul and his campaign efforts, and have done nothing at all to destroy his support base, nor have I engaged in any efforts to stop campaign donations from going in, nor any other counter-productive activities.

But YOU have.

The Truth

And Liberty go hand in hand
Even when the Truth Hurts

I see us all gaining strength through this as Ron Paul is purged of those who helped get Rand elected in exchange for key positions in Ron's campaign. These individuals, making hundreds of thousands of dollars while they subvert the campaign, have Obstructed what would have otherwise been a hands down victory for the Liberty movement...

Negative ads, running Ron to exhaustion, shielding Ron from his supporters, failing to support state delegations....

Come on ... Truth and Freedom go Hand in Hand

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.