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The Republican National Party is a PRIVATE Club. So they can do WHATEVER they want, right? Not...so...FAST!

Now that I have gotten your attention with the title... (grin)

The oft-repeated meme about you know..."RNC...private club....not subject to laws"...and other nonsense...is certainly a clever straw man that they can try to hide behind.

But watch out...that straw man is about to be vaporized by the white-hot heat of the TRUTH...and that is:

THE RULE OF LAW IS EVERYWHERE AND AT ALL TIMES.

Its that simple.

Let's say I own a private bank...not publicly traded, and I commit fraud...then I commit a crime...and a felony at that.

Let's say I have a private charity...and commit fraud....then I commit a crime, and a felony at that..

Well let's say we have this "private" "club" that is responsible for electing an officer for PUBLIC office, not to mention for the most powerful position on the planet, the president of the United States...and this "private club"...willfully uses intimidation, coercion, threats, tampering of documents & ballot boxes, lies, corruption, and of course FRAUD of every type...against voting citizens....then they TRAMPLE the law....and commit multiple, MULTIPLE CRIMES (and felonies at that)...with a widespread, massive assault on individuals and their personal liberties and their NATURAL RIGHT to vote...and on the Rule of Law itself.

FRAUD....is FRAUD....is FRAUD....is FRAUD.

Last time I checked, this is not Germany in the 1930s or Italy in the 1920s.

This is the United States of America, for God’s sakes! We are freeborn, natural-right-bearing, good, honest, liberty-loving, flag-waving, gun-toting, property-owning, happiness-pursuing, Americans.

And we ain’t talking about your child’s school’s P.T.A. elections or elections to the board at your local rotary club.

NO! This is the election process of the most powerful PUBLIC office in the world, that of the president.

RNC…"private club"…my rear end!

Hey RNC Establishment: DO NOT THINK that we are going to let you hide behind that meme, that pathetic straw man argument, and that excuse to commit crimes against voting citizens, for ONE SECOND LONGER.

(Not an attorney here...but I have a degree in Common Sense. If you need legal advice, then please seek it).

ATTENTION: THE RULE OF LAW IS EVERYWHERE AND AT ALL TIMES!!!

Period. End of discussion.

CHARGE!!!

;-) Oh, and BTW...Ron Paul 2012.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

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Are you on a central committee?

???

No. I am not.

I was elected a precinct delegate in 2008 and 2012 at county Convention to go to District Caucus State Convention.

I paid dues to the County GOP.

Did I misrepresent something?

Free includes debt-free!

I dont know your details

Different States have different rules and this is why it's confusing to so many.

Here in CA, I was appointed a delegate by Ron Paul's campaign, but Ron Paul had to win for me to go to Tampa. Ron Paul did not win.

What I learned by going to my Central Committee meetings is that we vet the candidates and the issues seeking ballot access. Your state could be like mine, but while you're in Tampa, you will be meeting many people, like myself, who are central committee members and they have worked hard to become delegates AND paid dues. I hope they are respected.

Congratulations on your elected job as delegate. GOOD LUCK in winning the nomination for Ron Paul. I hope you win, and if you don't, I sincerely appreciate your effort, in hopes that when you return home, you get a seat on a central committee and continue to work with us nationally to vet issues and candidates Ron Paul would admire.

We elected National Delegates by District.

In our District each of the three Counties elected its own National Delegates. The nominees were approved by the District Caucus at large.

The "genuises" of the State GOP has turned the 8th largest state into a political weakling. By holding an early primary it leaves the RNC able to penalize us 50% of our National Delegates if they have need.

Central Committee?

Our County GOP has an executive committee, (EC). They meet first Thursday. The committee is elected by precinct delegates who are popularly elected every two years. The executive committee includes other elected officials such as County Commissioners. Don't know the details of the "others".

The Treasurer and Secretary happen to be from my precinct. They may have been Reagan Republicans.

Michigan is a Great State, politicians keep sinking our ship. In 1837 the brand new State borrowed $5 million in gold and spent it on roads, railroads and canals. They lost money from the start. The State sold the better parts for #2 million in 1842, leaving the State's residents with a $3 million dollar debt.

Free includes debt-free!

sharkhearted's picture

Yep that's clearer, thanks.

And I certainly agree!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Are Members of the RNC

Voted into Office and allocated $18 Million in public funds? Are those funds "tax payers" funds; are they "investments" from We The People who are the "shareholders/beneficiaries" of the public trust; of the foreign corporation known as the UNITED STATES?

If so, you might want to read this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/241263/attention-ron-paul-delegates...

And there you have it! Very

And there you have it! Very good.

That is the question of the day.

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SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

I'll Second You're Writings,,Sharkman !

But I'd like to add one more thing:
The repubs and demos are "ONE" party, under the FULL control of the BIG money interests.

Ron Paul is already my President! I will not recognize any other person in government, because except for Ron Paul, they all have strayed so far away from the "SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND", the U.S. Constitution !

beesting

The GOP is a private club

and I am a member. I want them to not only follow their own rules. BUt in a bigger picture lieing cheathing and stealing is not sanctioned just because somone maintains its their private club and they can do anything. Wrong wrong wrong.

sovereign

42 USC § 1971 - Voting

42 USC § 1971 - Voting rights

"Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate."

Caucus or Convention.
A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.” - 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1))."

RNC rep, 2008:

"The RNC does not recognize a state’s binding of national delegates, but considers each delegate a free agent who can vote for whoever they choose, and the national convention allows delegates to vote for the individual of their choice, regardless of whether the person’s name is officially placed into nomination or not.”

Exactly

The 'private club' defense is total horseshit. The voting rights act specifically addresses parties, both national and state, as well as caucuses and primaries where the intent is to choose a candidate for any Federal office to represent that 'club'. It is completely illegal for state or national parties to rig elections or coerce or intimidate voters with the intent of affecting the results of that parties nominee election. Also, for the 1000th time, 'binding' is also illegal and any penalties assessed attempting to enforce 'binding' whether by state or national parties is totally illegal. Read the Voting Rights Act, know your rights, then prepare yourself to not only exercise them, but fight for them as well.

sharkhearted's picture

Thanks for posting!

The cat is out of the bag on this very, VERY clear law.

I usually hate most laws because they are tyrannical but this is a GOOD one.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Federal Law

Although we Paul supporters are for the laws being made at the state level for the most part, we do need federal laws that support freedom, and that is what 42 USC 1971 is, a law to protect the freedom of voters. We need to make sure that all federal laws are for just that, to protect liberties and freedom as that IS one of the true functions of the federal government.

There are no rights in the system, there are only remedies

This is remedial contract law. No collateral no contract. Your considered an indentured servant begging for benefits and privileges granted to you by the US Corp who established itself as the beneficiary of your trust when you signed onto social security. You reestablish contract with the Treasury according to contract principles and acquire secured creditor status. You guys are playing one game and the folks who matter are doing something completely different. You have to fight fire with fire..I've been doing it for a while and it's the only way to get back to point A, I can assume Constitutional protections because I'm helping pay off national bankruptcy...learn the REAL GAME...Stop wasting time, they won't listen till we all call their bluff.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

sharkhearted's picture

I hear ya...but legal positivism is not the end of the line.

There is a thing called Natural Law and Natural Rights.

Natural rights are inalienable and Natural Law is indestructible.

Not sure who you are talking to, but I this writer is not an "indentured servant"...and most certainly will not beg for "benefits and privileges.

And who is "you guys'...in comparison to the "folks who matter"?

I am all for fighting fire with fire...and ending the FED.

Finally...again not sure who you are adressing here...but this writer is most certainly not "wasting his time".

For Liberty!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

But no matter what

Lets be "respectful" of these frauds and "not disrupt" their dog and pony show.

Thetis

We will demand what is ours.

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I do not see how Doc can get the nomination. Not just because

of the GOP but because of US.

l. to nominate we either need the 5 states or the rules suspension. In either case we need Iowa. The Iowa chairman is not going to participate. He already said so.

2. Arizona is fighting, but that's going to take until after the election

3. Oklahoma and Louisiana are our best hopes and we still need one mmore than before as Iowa is not participating.

We are so close. No cigar. Please people-tell me how wrong I am. The only way I see us being able to do this is to take armed marshalls with us to the upcoming conventions. I also think it is time to be disruptive. How else can we do it?

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Ron Paul has won a plurality in ten states and counting...

because i seem to recall he simply mused that it was his opinion that RP would not win, not that the chairman would actively thwart the process. Further, i believe Ron Paul has already won plurality in MORE than five states: Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado, Missouri, Maine, Washington, Alaska, Massachusetts, and Louisiana.

how can we do it? get 5

how can we do it? get 5 states, we already have 4, the last one is in the works. then have all the delegates abstain on the first ballot, thereby allowing all of them to become "unbound" (according to the so-called RNC rules) then they can vote their conscience.

bound = gobbledygook

AGAIN: Read their (RNC) own rules and the law of the US in the messages above!!!!!!!!!!
Every delegate can vote first time and anytime arround who ever they want. "bound" or "unbound" do not and never have existed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for any election.
Is a fraud to put that in partyline politics, because it is unconstitutional.

Don't want to hear the words "bound" and "unbound" again. I just means you have let yourself be programmed by illigal gobbledygook

"And remember, a half-truth is far more dangerous then a complete lie, because the complete lie is going to be discovered sooner or later - just a little intelligence is needed. But the half-truth is very dangerous, even intelligent people, very intellige

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Agreed.

Nobody can be forced or coerced to vote for someone against their will or best judgement. Period.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

We have 4? I thought we had

We have 4? I thought we had 11? Wtf!!! So we're not on the ballot now? Is there any states left to get or no? This really makes me mad y'all!!so what do we do?

juan maldonado

RNC wish

The RNC wish the conventions were "private"...
I am sure many in the party are "into" their little "private" country clubs, secret societies, and such organizations.
They sure wish it was "their" private club, they've tried to make it private by expelling those who do not get in line and vote the way they want.
Just because they act private, does not make it that way.
Hey, wasn't the civil rights marchers of the 1960's protesting against a bunch of "private" businesses?
Technically speaking those businesses that were discriminating were doing so on "private property" too.
So, let them run their little "private" scheme, if that's all they've got...This lawsuit should be a "slam dunk" for LIBERTY.

i was going to...

down vote, until i read it! great post thanks =]

Speaker of truth...

You have a marvelous way of getting right to the HEART of a matter. Keep up the good work!

Live long and prosper!

sharkhearted's picture

Thank you so much!

For Liberty!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.