Attention: Ron Paul Delegates! If the LFRP Can't Get It Done, You Must Take Another Approach: You Must Represent Yourselves!Submitted by The South on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:52
Lets see if this post ends up in the "Off Topic" wasteland like so many of my other posts. Utterly Amazing stuff like this keeps getting moved to Off Topic, when in all due actuality it's a "MAJOR TOPIC" that needs to be seen and understood by EVERY American.
It's amazing that posts like this are allowed to stay in the "Liberty Forum", but posts like I'm making now end up in "Off Topic".
What in the HE double L does Mason Jars have to do with Liberty? The posts I've made about the trust; your Certificate of Live Birth, and why we actually have corporate chains around our necks because of the Certificate of Live Birth should be FRONT PAGE, this is our problem; this is why we can't get anything done, and Mason Jars will not help in a court of law.
Now to the topic at hand:
You people who are Delegates are also "Shareholders" in the foreign corporation known as the UNITED STATES.
Your proof of this is your Certificate of Live Birth; it's the ONLY document you have that has the Government/Corp's signature/seal on it in your behalf.
You pay taxes right? ... Those taxes are "investment deposits" into the corporation; those taxes "FUND" the corporation; without those taxes/deposits, the corporation is insolvent.
This means as a shareholder/investor in the corporation, you have standing to sue, or standing to have a court proceeding, or hearing for the corporation, in which you the "citizen/taxpayer/investor/shareholder" are the beneficiaries of the corporation, and the government officials, judges, etc. are the trustees of that corporation.
How do you know they are trustees? Because they are "public servants" or "public trustees". They answer to YOU! You pay their salary! You are their boss, and as a taxpayer/shareholder/investor in the corporation, you have every right to bring up your grievances and have them heard in a court of law.
There is a possibility that hiring a BAR licensed attorney will, in the view of the court, label you as incompetents; wards of the STATE; trustees that have no business administrating any estate, let alone their own.
If you run into this roadblock, perhaps representing yourselves in court, as competent shareholders, will alter the courts view of your standing, and you will prevail.
Just to make sure this post does not end up in "Off Topic", I'd like to point out other recent posts pertaining to the topic at hand that have been listed in the Liberty Forum and are still there today, and have not been brushed under the rug and hidden from the public.
Here's just a few:
Daily Paul Liberty Forum:
Ron Paul 2012 Forum:
To you moderators that don't seem to believe this "Birth Certificate" or "Certificate of Live Birth" issue deserves massive attention, please do some homework on the subject; it's the most relevant issue at hand.
Do you not realize the UNITED STATES is a foreign corporation; that corporations cannot do business with living-breathing men and women; that the foreign corp US. split the title of the original "Record of Live Birth" and created another "YOU"; a DEAD you; a fictitious entity you; a presumption of law you; a legal person YOU?
Why the HE double L do you think your Certificate of Live Birth has a REGISTRARS seal and signature on it? The Registrar is the court of Probate, and Probate only deals with estates of the DEAD.
The court views you as DEAD; a legal name; a fictitious entity; a presumption of law; a ward of the STATE, a TRUSTEE, unless you set the record straight upon arriving in court by identifying the REAL trustees, the "judge" and the "STATE prosecutors", etc.
That is how they are dealing with us, but they are playing the roles of the administrators and beneficiaries of the public trust, when the truth of the matter is:
We The People are the beneficiaries/shareholders/taxpayers/investors in that public trust, and We The People do not take orders from "public trustees", but our ignorance of the situation is getting us railroaded in these court hearings (I mean corporate-administrative hearings).
Your "Certificate of Live Birth" is your proof that you are a shareholder; that means you have standing!
The trustees (public servants) are there for one reason and one reason only: To carry out the wishes of the investors/shareholders of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES and to produce the best return for you money possible; your tax donations; the money you invest to keep the corporation alive and running $$$.
The county Sheriff is in that courtroom for one reason and one reason only: To enforce the demands of the beneficiaries/shareholders onto the trustees to carry out.
Who are the trustees? ...... "THE PUBLIC SERVANTS"
Who are the beneficiaries? . "We The People"
How do you know you are the Administrator/Beneficiary of the corporate estate-legal fictitious entity NAME on the Certificate of Live Birth?
Because "YOU" are the only one that can get a certified copy of that document short a court order.
That IS your standing to sue. You are not happy with the way the "public trustees" are handling operations of the corporation UNITED STATES in which you are an investor/shareholder, and you have every legal right and standing in the world to have a shareholders meeting to discuss their incompetence and redirect the situation at hand.
Perhaps Delegates should stop acting like "public trustees" who have no standing, and start acting like the beneficiaries/shareholder/investors/ of the corporate UNITED STATES they actually are. Should YOU a beneficiary of the corporation allow a trustee (judge/attorney, etc.) tell you that you have no standing?
Trustees do not tell beneficiaries what to do! Unless the beneficiaries does not know his actual role in the trust and allows him/herself to be railroaded into a trustee position.
Just My Two Cents, take it as you will, but remember this: Hiring a BAR card attorney to represent you in a court where another BAR card attorney (the judge) is sitting in the BIG seat, is kind of a conflict of interest, since both have a superseding oath to the Crown and not the Republic.
Here's a few of my other posts that have ended up in "Off Topic" that might help educate some on the topic at hand:
The whole system runs off TRUST LAW. We The People are the Beneficiaries and the politicians/judges/attorneys/RNC are the "public servants" or "public trustees".
They agreed to take a lesser standing in the corporate trust by proof of their "OATH of OFFICE". Trustees have no teeth, it's setup to be that way; the founders setup the Constitution as a Trust agreement between "We The People" and government, in which "We The People" had all the power and those voted into public office only had the power we granted them.
For the sake of God, stop putting these posts in "Off Topic", they are the MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC at hand.
If anything, post this in the "Liberty Forum" or "Activism" or "Delegates" or "Ron Paul 2012", just anywhere so it shows up on the right side of this screen in the "Active Forum Topics" >>>>>>>>>>>>