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Five States

The thread below needs to be the focus of our grassroots. If Ron Paul has a plurality of 5 States he can be nominated and be on the ballot as well as give a 15-minute speech to the delegates at the Convention. The delegates have the power to elect the next president. Will they really be so foolish and elect Romney when Ron Paul speaks to them directly and asks for their vote? We must get Ron Paul on the ballot and on that stage so he can ask the delegates for their vote.


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I believe dr. Paul is simply playing his hand by merely........

playing down the number of pleurality states he has versus what the media believes he has. Of course, there are some questionable states at this junction such as Washington, Alaska, Oklahoma, and certainly Louisiana (in addition afew other states as well). I beleieve he is cnfident in how this will play out. The RNC and MSM will do what they do best and we unfortunately will have to deal with their antics and unethical behaviors and perhaps even violating various laws (Federal, State, Local)is within their potential actions for it certainly is not without precedent.

President Paul

I'll be listening to President Paul talk on Sunday of the week of the convention.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.


Aren't we forgetting Virginia, Oklahoma(contested), and Massachusetts!

We already have 5 states

The AP has already admitted that Ron Paul has won:

Iowa, Colorado, Minnesota, Maine and Washington

So our efforts from here on out need to be focused on demanding that the GOP give Ron Paul a speaking slot, and place his name on the ballot.

The Ron Paul campaign staff should have handled this already, but for some reason they are essentially declaring the campaign over instead. Maybe we can get the Lawyers for Ron Paul coalition to help?

Not Washington

Cross that and replace it with Louisiana

"Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." - Benjamin Franklin

I thought Louisiana was still up in the air

Did something change recently?


We don't even know ourselves which states Paul has a plurality in...we need a concise video showing (with evidence - video, mainstream press articles) the five states we are claiming Paul has won.

So, in which states Paul has won a plurality? Which states are we contesting? If we win Louisiana are we at 5 states?

Ron Paul Told Morning Joe that He Does NOT HAVE 5 States!!

Ron Paul on Morning Joe stated that the Campaign did not have the 5 States yet to Nominate Him and Give Him a Prime Time Speaking Slot.

Listen to the video in the thread!!!

If the AP is right then the Official Campaign Strategists are misleading Ron, which of course would not be the first time!!!

Idaho and Oregon are critical this weekend!!! We need to get a plurality of votes in at least one of them!!!

Key word: yet.

You're right. He said that. Dr. Paul is not one to count his chickens before they've hatched :)

Louisiana is still officially up-in-the-air.

Idaho and Oregon are crucial....

...you are right!

Perhaps Ron Paul wants the impetus on more states, and saying what he said he avoids many questions.

Here is a thread for OR and Idaho:


Ron Paul ... forever.

CO is only a coalition with Santorum supporters if they don't

vote for Ron, it doesn't work. We need OK or LA and LA is obviously a win if we spread the video. Is there some reason you DON'T want it spread?

With 5 states WE nominate him from the floor, and he automatically gets a NOMINEE speaking slot which no one can edit. They don't have to 'give us' anything.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Ah ok, good to know. And no

Ah ok, good to know.

And no there's no reason why I wouldn't want it to spread, I just figured we already had 5 states locked down with Colorado. In that case we need to push for both the Louisiana and Oklahoma delegates to be recognized.

I believe this was the Establishments' plan

If they were able to shorten up the delegates to not meet Five States, Then Mitt can become the nominee. If Dr. Paul does meet this, then there isnt a doubt in my mind Santorum, Gingrich and Romney delegates will be looking forward to voting for the only Conservative in the race.

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

I agree with you that some Gingrich delegates might vote Paul

I am from Georgia,and went to the state convention as an alternate.There were many Gingrich supporters there and when there was a vote on denouncing the NDAA and put in in the platform the vote was overwhelmingly YEA.When a Romney supporter stood up and said this could not be done because Romney supported the NDAA...the resolution was withdrawn even though it had a overwhelmingly majority of yes votes.Gingrich supporters do not like Romney's liberal history. I would count on some of them to vote for Paul at the National convention.


Video succinctly showing Paul has won 5 States

Where are the talented video editors? We need you! Is someone capable of putting together a video succinctly explaining all the relevant rules and showing that Paul has, in fact, won 5 States and that the RNC is denying him a spot on the ballot?

The grassroots needs something that we can make go viral about this issue.

Nevada, Iowa and Minnesota are pretty obvious, Maine looks like

sour grapes by the Romney folks. People in Maine have accepted that Ron won there, particularly with the screwy vote count on the caucus to begin with. It is really Louisiana that is contested in the media prior to convention. it is important that the fake rules the establishment 'passed' with the wrong rules chair were NEVER ratified before the self selected chair was replaced, as shown in the first video in the thread above. I would also spread OK but only as a 'actually there are two, but you don't have to be a parliamentary genius to see it with Louisiana'.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


I wonder why the hush hush about Texas? Watching the convention highlights it looked very "pauly". Do you think they clinched it with Texas and are not disclosing for some strategy move? I might be optimistic here but it would be awesome.

I remember (Favorite Son)

watching the conventions. States would cast votes for their Favorite Sons. An individual.. senator, governor or whoever from the particular state they wanted to be president. Wow how the total control over everything that used to be done is now being controlled by the establishment! It has to be a unanimous vote. All delegates have to fall in line and vote for whomever Rockefeller, Bush, and the rest of the elitists want. This country is being hog ties and bamboozled!

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Check out this article

This shows 1 persons delegate count on Ron Paul. I don't know how accurate it is, for one he is only using only 18 delegates for TX. We don't know any of TX #'s yet, at least I haven't heard yet, so it could be more or less than 18. But He lays out each state pretty clear...


Thank you

for mentioning my article. I want readers, of course, but just as important, I want an accurate count; and the more people who see the article, the better my chances of getting more info.

(For the Texas figures, eg, all I have are the bound Delegates Paul won, which I checked against 3 sites (Green Papers, NYT/AP, and "The Real 2012 Delegate Count" - 1 neutral, 1 anti-Paul, 1 pro-Paul), all of which agreed on the 18 figure. It doesn't mean actual Paul supporters who have been elected as Delegates; I don't have any information on that yet either.)

I'm hoping to keep updating the figures, right up to the convention. So thank you for bringing it to readers' attention.

BTW, to keep this on-topic, by my figures, Paul has a plurality in at least 5 states -- Colorado, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota. The RNC may try to cheat him out of Louisiana; but then there's also Nevada. (I know that there a plurality is bound to vote for Romney, but they still should be able to nominate Paul.) So it looks to me like he's going to be nominated, and get his speaking slot.

And, hey, Ron Paul has been more than nice to Mitt Romney this campaign; Romney owes him at least that much.

George Dance

Robbing Ron Paul

Texas is huge, so I cant

Texas is huge, so I cant speak for a majority but in my CD we totally ran the body. We won a few seats by 1 vote! It was exciting and made us all feel that "showing up" really works!

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin

Little Elm, Tx

GOP Credentials Committee Meeting in August!!!!

All Ron Paul Supporters need to descend on the GOP Convention Credentials Committee Meeting likely scheduled in early August.

That will be the Committee that will decide which State delegation or individual delegates will be seated if there is an appeal.

The 2012 GOP Convention Website does not list a date or time.

Does anyone know when and where the Credentials Committee will meet??

My guess is they know we are going to be there demanding justice and fair play. The secrecy is obvious!!!


It's interesting that many of the Romney folks or rather, folks that just don't want Obama for another four years, are just now waking up to how a Republic works. Delegates were decided in 2008 as being unbound and as someone succinctly wrote earlier, Federal law trumps state law.


Use caution because pointing out facts will get you down voted these day on the DP. Just look at my post below! 4 more down votes of facts folks, and it will be truncated. I encourage you to make the facts go away. Out of site, out of mind.

BTW, it was not decided in '08 that they are unbound. There is no court declaration. Mind Looking at what Ron said in his own words?

BLITZER: But I assume you've reconciled yourself with the fact that Romney will be your party's nominee?

PAUL: Well, it looks like he has the delegates, yes. But he doesn't have the control of the hearts and minds of the people. And right now, a lot of people -- a lot of delegate who are pledged to vote for Romney are actually very strong supporters of ours

Darn Facts keep popping up all over the place hu?

Bump - Because Organization & Prepairedness is Important

Acting like competitors at all stages is important;

If these things need taken care of, those that can take care of them should get right on it.

So I will bump up you both, because we need to be kept alert, active and focused.

We have I believe 6 states already, So the issue of getting 5 states is already done (correct me if I am wrong, or add more):

Our state wins are:

Nevada Ron Paul 22 Delegates - (Romney 3)
Colorado Ron Paul 18 - Delegates - (Romney 16)
Minnesota Ron Paul 32 Delegates - (Romney 8)
Iowa Ron Paul 21 Delegates (Romney 4)
Louisiana Ron Paul 27 Delegates (Romney 19)
Maine Ron Paul 21 Delegates - (Romney 3)

I am guessing that Texas is a victory as well by the silence of both camps.

But we can use all we can get, so lets go get more!

Get those I Phones streaming!!!

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

Shhhhh! from TX


from TX

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin

Little Elm, Tx

shh!shh! :)

shh!shh! :)

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

What are we going to do? What is Ron going to do actually?

The Campaign has not even asked for a speaking slot! Sometimes the leader needs to lead and not expect the followers to do it all.

BLITZER: Have you been in touch with him or his folks about a role for you at the convention?

PAUL: Not me personally. Maybe staff have indirectly, but, no. I'm not expecting a whole lot to happen there because, you know, we had to have -- you know, we had to have more delegates to say that we had to have, you know, time for speeches and that sort of thing. { Does this mean that Ron is not going to speak at the convention? If Ron does not speak at the convention, but others do, is it acceptable that a National Convention that obtains Federal Tax money exclude a valid candidate for the office of the POTUS?}

No, it hasn't been resolved. They haven't turned us down. We haven't made any requests. And a little bit more time might solve all those questions.

BLITZER: Well, a lot of us will be watching to see, Congressman, if you get a primetime speaking venue at the Republican convention. That would be significant. I assume you agree.

PAUL: I think so. I think that I would probably take care of the opportunity if I could give my speech.


It's not about asking Romney

It's about getting Paul on the ballot so he can give a 15-minute nomination speech.

King Romney

The whole idea of asking Romney for speaking privileges is disgusting. He shouldn't be running the show and going along with this gag only perpetuates the myth.

Thanks for the transcript, HonorGod.