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I apologize...

Yesterday MLJ (a member for one week) made a comment on the post of Dr. Pauls interview on Morning Joe. The last sentance is as follows

"The words Ron Paul and hypocrite will be uttered or written together in the same sentences - thousands and thousands if not millions of times today. And tomorrow too."

I replied to MLJ's post that he or she was delusional.

Today, Ron Paul Social Security, is the number one search on Yahoo.

After 10 years of supporting Dr. Paul and four years on the DP I still underestimated the power of controlled media's opposition to Dr. Paul and the R3volution. It is obvious the evil empire hangs on every word Dr. Paul utters and looks for a way to take it out of context or distort it somehow to smear him.

To MLJ, you were correct and I was wrong. Please accept my humble apology for calling you delusional.

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Pffff this is not an issue at

Pffff this is not an issue at all. It's so easy to defend Paul's position on social security, we could all probably do it in our sleep.

No Apology Needed

There is nothing hypocritical in Dr Paul claiming some form of social security. Where's the fuss? He has been perfectly open about it. He has been clear all along that it's only fair people who have paid in for many years are entitled to be paid out. How else are those people supposed to make up just some of the money the government has took from them over the years? Are they expected to provide twice for their old age? Dr Paul just thinks that this system of putting people's money into the power of government and letting government dole it out is the wrong system. It is inefficient, corrupting and damaging to the economy. Where's the inconsistancy in that? Dr Paul is of course right. His principles hold true - no apology needed. Neo-cons try hard to sneer at and smear this very principled man, yet this is all they can dig up? How pathetic is that?

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The more media opposition there is

the bigger the threat he is. Hang in there, it is called WINNING.

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MSM took it out of context

It's called yellowbellied journalism.

They injected the word "admitted" in story headlines, like Ron Paul committed a crime. Last night, Atruepatriot and I were talking about this and since Dr. Paul is drawing SS, he also is PAYING taxes on it as income since he is still working!

Would morning joe or other MSM include the facts Ron Paul never accepted a raise, never took a junket, and always returned leftover congressional stipends back to the treasury?

America, if there's any time to admit anything, we must:
Restore America Now!
Vote Ron Paul in November!

Real eyes realize real lies

We want our country back

Every year is a year for Ron Paul!

Let me get this straight

Ron Paul is FORCED to pay into social security. Correct?

Ron Paul does not have a choice. Correct?

Before Ron Paul sees his paycheck, Social Security Administration has taken a portion of Ron Paul's money. Correct?

Social Security has been taking a portion of Ron Paul's money for decades. Correct?

How much do you think Social Security has taken? A little? A lot? Can you give a figure?

Social Security refuses to return Ron Paul any of the money they took from him until he reaches a certain age, and then he gets some, not all, but some of the money they took back every month. Correct?

Ron Paul reaches the age social security says he must be to be paid a very small portion of his money back, and Ron Paul accepts the money. Correct?

Ron Paul continues to work and pays into social security" Correct?

Ron Paul continues to pay more into social security than he takes back, and he's a hypocrit?

tilt: I don't get the connection.

If I think of social security being a Big Brother, who says, "I'm going to take care of you when you are OLD, and to do that, I need to take some of your money as soon as you start working and for all the days you work." And you say to Big Brother, "I can provide for myself, I believe I know how to invest and I can do it." But Big Brother says, "NO, I've got to take care of our little brothers and sisters too, so YOU need to pay me or I will put you in prison." This is GOOD you say.. Big Brother is RIGHT ON! So Ron Paul pays Big Brother for more than 50 years... In that 50 years, Ron Paul continued to make investments, KNOWING, he could do better than Big Brother who would not listen to him, but FORCED him to do it his way." Ron Paul did better than Big Brother and recently his investment paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Big Brother took some of that money too.

That is GOOD Big Brother takes Ron Paul's money?

So the day arrives, Big Brother says, "You are an OLD MAN Ron Paul, so I'll give you a little tiny bit of that money, just like I give it to all the other little brothers and sisters who worked like you."

Ron Paul is supposed to say, "No that's OK Big Brother. Even though I was right and you were wrong, even though you robbed me by FORCING ME UNDER THREAT to pay you and you never gave me a chance to prove my way was correct, you can keep the money because________________________________________________________".

Could you fill that blank in for me so I can understand why Ron Paul is a hypocite?

Thank you EX Ron Paul supporter, who never was a Republican, or did what Ron Paul suggested. May you and BIG BROTHER live happily ever after with no complaints. (unlike the hundreds of people I see when I work my soup kitchen who have no teeth, need medical help, clothing, shelter, and have allot of needs that BIG BROTHER isn't taking care of." Maybe BIG BROTHER is the hypocrite? Hmmm?

Bonus question: Do you think any of the hosts on Daily Joe would give up their social security check when they get older even though like Ron Paul, they invested their money?

Do you think they might be working for Big Brother?

Well Laid-Out Argument

KUDOS! and a +.
To Will Work 4 freedom: Kudos to you...Humility becomes you,a big +.

Two great examples, thank you.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I'm at Yahoo.com and am not seeing this

I also don't see this here:

Where are you seeing this?

NOT in Google Search

..Top Searches Either....hmmm?

Let sleeping dogs lie..do NOT give it any traction.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Yup, I knew that one was gonna hurt and hurt bad

It was a true "gotcha" moment. The Doc's answer was a good one but you had to be listening.

The only mistake here on anybody's part is trusting Joe or any other MSM lackey. This is a message we seem to want to have pounded into our heads relentlessly. All it takes is one or two softballs and everywhere people start staying "gee X is really coming around, I'm starting to like them, hey everybody let's trust them".

And every time, bitter resentment is your reward.

Fox: why did you bite me?
Scorpion: because you deserve it.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

I see this as positive news.

It means they still see him as a major threat. They are scared he could become the nominee and would beat Obama.


He has no chance yet... We must spin his every word and continue the media crucifixion because to many of you are waking up to the simple truth of liberty.

This tells me someone out there is still considering Ron Paul

.versus the hollow suit that is Romney.


is there an age limit on paying into social security?

ron said near the end that he's 'still paying into ss'

No---no age limit....however the taxability of other income is

influenced by how much is earned and how much is taxed.


You're A Great American

. . .to be able to admit when you're wrong and let everyone know. Thank you.

Yeh, I saw the interview and thought it was really good. Dr. Paul got in a lot of excellent points - and they were asking great questions. However, I cringed when Joe kept going on and on about the Social Security topic.

In spite of Joe's supposed support of Dr. Paul - he just dealt him a mighty blow, maybe unintentionally (?), with the SS discussion.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

I Suppose , When You State Joe

..as in Morning Joe you're referring to the show et al.

That was Sam Stein asking the ambush questions, wasn't it?

I don't recall JOE Scarborough being present.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

You had a good point.

Common sense tells us that the "Social Security" part of the interview was pretty mild and he made sense that SS is not welfare or in any way "Taking taxpayer money".

Problem is that many watching MSM don't take the time to run things through their "Common sense" filter.

That is why they can continue to say whatever they want and people take it as fact. It is easier and quicker just to believe it.

I mentioned to a coworker that I was at the state convention and they commented "Ron Paul, oh yeah, he's that guy the young people like because he wants to legalize drugs"

I gave her an education she did not ask for. Couldn't resist.

Common sense would have shown her that there is other reasons a 76 year old man would want to legalize drugs other than to get the youth vote.