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Ex-spy: AIPAC has iron grip on U.S.

This was an eye opener for me. I new the Isaeli lobby was strong but this takes the cake. US allows AIPAC to pick our high level foreign affairs people - anything to do with the Middle East.

http://www.hawaiipoliticalinfo.org/node/5526

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MIchael Schurer

also warned about the Saudi Lobby who said they were even worse, but were better off abandoning relations with those 2 countries right now when our country is on the brink of collapse.

This is an important thread!

It is good to see that more people are waking up to what some of the criminals that are running Israel are doing to our Country as well. We have to acknowledge that America's policies are not always going to be aligned to Israel's interest.

It is sad that many good decent Jewish men and women are lumped into the category of bad people. It is my belief that the elite is what we all need to be focused on and that goes for the Jewish elite as well as the British. There is so much that could be said about the British elite but one thing we all agree on and that is AIPAC needs to be disbanded and those who have spied against our Country should be locked up and the key should be thrown away.

AIPAC does have a powerful influence in DC.

This is a well known fact. However it is as many have noted here not at all black and white and for the Israelis it could well be a double edged sword. Here is a very good Dutch full length movie on the influence of AIPAC:

http://12160.info/video/total-control-of-united-states-full-...

Please listen carefully to the testimony of the young Israeli diplomat near the end of the movie. This is very close to a prophecy of what awaits Israel.

Here is another video of an interview with Miko Peled who is a peace activist. Born in Jerusalem in 1961 into a well known Zionist family, his grandfather, Dr. Avraham Katsnelson was a Zionist leader and signer of the Israeli Declaration of Independence. His Father, Matti Peled, was a young officer in the war of 1948 and a general in the war of 1967:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c4Zfn...!

Miko Peled represents another side of the Jewish character that distances itself from the actions of the present leaders of that nation.

There is a reason why Israel has such a strong influence on America at the present time. They have been given an opportunity by God to bring forth the Kingdom of God in the Earth and that is indeed what they are trying to do although not in the way that will be successful and indeed will lead to the destruction of their city, their nation and their religion. This is the opposite of what the Christian churches who support Israel are expecting to happen.

There have been warnings given to the Messianic Jewish community that are described in the Harbinger series of teachings by Jonathan Cahn dealing with 9/11 but they have been interpreted as warnings to America rather than Israel and while this is true to a point the real target is Israel. While there is a promise that the American Republic will be preserved the Jewish State has been slated for destruction.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I am tired of hearing this old crap!...

You know what I have Israeli and Jewish friends who know that Zionists are fucked up, they specifically separate themselves from their leaders in their country. they have been penalized and thrown out because they didn't want to serve their military's genocide on the Palestinian people, ARE YOU GOING TO CALL THEM ANTI SEMITE?, No!,

Zionists are douche-bags like Rothschild, Obama, George bush, Rockefeller, who have a deep hatred for all of humanity, it's totally baffling how people claim Iranians and Palestinians are racist to Israeli, Zionists are the ones who have unfathomable hate for the human race as whole, they are the real Nazis. Rothbard was Jewish and he was against the establishment constantly, people must be blind or ignorant that they can't understand this.

I Agree

Growing up some of the people who influenced me the most just happened to have been Jewish. And, those individuals behaved in more Jesusonian ways than many of the Christians I know.

I truly feel for the good Jewish people who have to deal with (a) being called a self-hating Jew if they stand up against Zionism (b) non-Jewish neighbors who have been led to be confused about the real enemies (c) and, also, as Americans, despising what is being done in *our* names.

It is zionists/neo-cons pure and simple. If only everyone would get that! Is it so hard to imagine that if we on this site do not in any way relate to or condone what our government does...that many in Israel feel the same way.

fonta

Two Vignettes ... That Were Meaningful to Me

Sometimes when you have some major questions percolating in your head, information teachers appear.

At a recent street fair in Palm Springs I had noticed a booth called: Ask the Rabbi. Well, I had some questions but knew to proceed with caution. Googled the Rabbi (but didn't know enough about Likud for a flag) so found out from the Rabbi's website that he had mid-fathered the birth of his daughter's child via Skype in Russia or some place. I mentioned seeing it to him..and he was very friendly. He mentioned that he had something like twelve children ... most Rabbis or such in various countries. (I sorta thought...hmm.) THEN, he mentioned that his son served in the Israeli army. My opening. I went, "So you are a Zionist?" I was just looking for a good conversation, but he went absolutely ballistic yelling, "And why would I not be." The conversation deteriorated as he told me that Arabs were no better than cockroaches and would still be wandering around the desert if it were not for Israel.

I left shaken and went back to my husband's music booth. A guy came to the table talking silver and gold. Turns out he was an ex-Rabbi. I told him about my encounter a few minutes earlier. He actually got tears in his eyes and said, "You know they hate us everywhere." He added, perhaps you don't know but there were a lot of Jews who were against formation of the State of Israel. I wish I could have talked to him more.

And, as if that wasn't lesson enough, I looked on both sides of our booth. On one side was a booth of Messianic Jews and on the other was the family I have become great friends with. A Christian family from Syria who came here to offer bibles (in various middle eastern languages) to Middle Easterners in this country. He is an ordained minister....and the source of much of my information about what is really happening in Syria.

Ask the questions...teachers will appear. All of the above occurred in a three hour period at a street fair. And, we sold a lot of CDs. It was a packed with information day. I love those kind of days!
Thanks if you read for indulging me. Some stories you just have to share.

fonta

Do keep in mind that this is

Do keep in mind that this is Iran's state-operated propaganda channel aimed specifically at western audiences. Not the most trustworthy of news sources.

I don't think AIPAC gets to dictate who gets what post or not. That's not how influence peddling works. It's probably much more subtle. It's more that you, for instance, invite certain speakers to events frequented by a lot of State Department honchos. You throw a party here, a reception there. "Hey Jim, have you met Bob?" You co-ordinate talking points, so every says exactly the same thing and constantly repeat them in press releases. And yeah, the pro-Israel lobby is way too good at it. But they have to be, support for Israel in the West is on the decline.

But then again.. that entire region is so messed up, you never really know who is doing what to who. It's like a foreign-intervention free-for-all.

With all due respect, it's you

With all due respect, it's you who doesn't understand how AIPAC works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Harman#AIPAC_controversy

Here's two 'respectable' college professors' take (same conclusion):
http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/037...
(use a liberty friendly referral whenever buying stuff on amazon)

gold = money
war = health of the state
liberty = prosperity

I know how lobbying works,

I know how lobbying works, I'm not an expert but they work pretty much the same way everywhere.. and there's no denying they're dirty. All I said is that 'the dirt' is more subtle (and more pervasive) than what pressTV says. PressTV = Iran and Iran is a party to the conflict so I don't trust them either. Just because they say something that you like to hear, doesn't make them right.

I don't know what got me the negs? Saying that I don't trust state-operated media, or pointing out that it isn't just a case of a little bribery here and there but an entire system, of which AIPAC is just one leg, aimed at influencing public opinion and, much worse, public policy across the west? They're also pretty powerful in Europe, where it's even more glaring because the public opinion of Israel hasn't been exactly favorable since the second Intifadah began.

It won't be long

until somebody shows up on this thread and tries to call everyone "anti-septic".

Anti-SEPTIC! ...I Said It

...I did it cuz "Al Qaeda" or as RP says THE Al Qaeda translates toilet and most of us here know how it was created and how the creation is being used with LIES.

Just like a Lobby (of US neo-cons and Israli neo-cons) can be *attached* to a religion that has been hijacked by a two headed dragon (more accurately called Zionists neo-conning us all through media )and then, that two headed beast, uses that recreated religion as a *shield* in order to deflect bullets. All bullets. Off to more wars based upon lies.

Wish it WAS just a *they*...but it is not. It has become *us*. When will people wake up sigh.

fonta

Paper grip. Promissory upon promisorry. Promises, Promises!

Chronologically speaking... Paper... payment by payment... grips the world as we know it. - Sponsored by the Printers-That-Be.

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Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Why do you think TeoCON hero Rubio

gave a speech at the CFR, stating we need to get prepared to attack Iran??? And, why AlsoRand voted for santions on Iran? Because, this lobby, and it's network of Zionists tells them 'do you want to sink or swim in your political carreer?' Though, JFK and RFK both had many shortfallings, they both tried to stop the Israeli lobbies, and their nuclear program, both were assassinated, huh??? All Christians need to read Matthew 16:6 and Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 to understand what many of them are supporting, and realize they will be Judged for their failure to follow Christ's warnings!!!

Amen

Brother

really?

you didn't know? Guess you have been informed. Welcome to the United States of Israel.

No, it's really the

United States of Rothschild, because Israel is their creation, along with the Federal Reserve! You only need to read the Balfour Declaration, and the creators of the Fed being Rothschild agents.

'Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.'
Mayer Amschel Rothschild

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would there total control

look something like this?

http://zimbra.tc3net.com/service/home/~/rpaul.jpg?auth=co&lo...
just asking...
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Can't access. What is it?

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i can't either after posting

will try another link

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence