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What if peace...ends up not working?

What if respect, modesty and just the plain truth don't work? In this world that is so despicable and so messed up what if this calm take over of politics will not work? Or if it does work, what if it is already to late? What if the coming economic crash destroys whatever is left of this country? Are people here truly set on just taking over the republican party and restoring America in the next decade? How many of you actually feel that will work? We have seen what is on the line, and we have seen what extent the elites will go to to protect their "investments" throughout the globe, and country...

How many here, if it comes to it are willing to face the realization that the American Revolution v2 might have a spot in the history books of our time period?

That is, if we still have our second amendment rights in a year.

I hate to be that person, that negative Nancy that says things like this...but I cannot be the only American who has thought about this possibility.



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I've lived a lot in my 41

I've lived a lot in my 41 years. One thing I've learned is that money and power give one the illusion of omnipotence. But nothing ever brings them back into the real world like the sight of their own blood. Take my word on this. We will be OK.

rehashing Report from Iron Mountain

on the Possibility and Desirability of Peace.

The comments on Amazon offer a much better overview than I could:

http://www.amazon.com/Report-From-Mountain-Leonard-Lewin/pro...

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I don't know if you guys know

I don't know if you guys know this but there wasn't to much peace in the American revolution

This is true...

But sadly, half of the Americans in our country are disrespectful, arrogant, and unreasonable. There lies half the problem. There is a lot of people out there brain washed by the system.

fireant's picture

Respect, modesty, and truth works...

with people who are truthful, respectful, and modest.

Undo what Wilson did

Given the record gun sales in 2012

by citizens as well as homeland security I think we can presume a lot of people are wondering the same thing.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible

really piss me off.

Bump for discussion.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Peace is overrated, Liberty should be the goal

A cell in SuperMax can be very peaceful, but that's not how I want to live.

As for tactics, non-violent resistance worked rather well for Gandhi and MLK in their freedom movements.

If it comes to it, the non-aggression principle allows self-defense against those who will not leave you be.

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There is no way to have Liberty without Peace.

The two only work together. Yes, self defense is allowed; but the rational person uses every peaceable means before ever considering a violent means. Violence too often boomerangs back. Most violent uprisings are squashed by overwhelming state fire power.

Only an informed populace can obtain and keep Liberty. An armed populace is insufficient, they won't know how to turn a revolution into a free society. Arms are the last, last resort of a people so desperate there truly are no alternatives. We are a long way from that yet. We have the free internet, our best education weapon. We have a large and growing movement of committed Liberty advocates.

What concerns me is those who would have Peace without Liberty

and there are plenty of historical examples of that - so the two do not always appear together.

I agree with your order of options, but believe we're not as far away from violence as you do.

I heard or read about the reasoning

behind the Fast and Furious debacle was to send the guns to the drug gangs in Mexico in order to increase the violence, giving Obama the public support to reign in our 2nd Amendment rights. You know the saying, "Never let a good crisis (or a botched covert operation) go to waste".