BOARD NEEDS A MODERATOR - don't Distract, Disparage and Divide

I am leaving the site, or I will refrain from posting anymore. I am not throwing a “fit” or anything; I am just tired of all the hypocrisy, name-calling and rudeness. I support Dr. Paul and I voted for him in my primary. I went out and handed out flyers, placed signs, convinced my friends and family to vote for him and painted a huge sign for him. I said he is “no God” and I was not trying to be insulting towards him, but I am not trying to elect a dictator but a liberty advocate. I was more alluding to the way some of you refer to him. He seems like a kind rational person to me. I will say it again – he is just a mortal man, not a god.

I think some of you are nice, but some are extremely rude and hypocritical trying to censor people when you say you are for liberty, it makes no sense. I am not talking about agent provocateurs who advocate violence, just people who choose to decent from your views. You will never catch me advocating violence or attacking someone with a flame attack (except that quote from Bill Cooper, sorry about that, I was upset). I feel many of you haven’t a clue about true liberty, or the Constitution. You try to say this site is private property; this is absurd when you are trying to engage people in a political discussion. I have a good impression of Dr. Paul, but I have a very negative impression of many of his supporters, especially the Libertarian Party types. I now remember the reason I like the Constitution Party better. Many Libertarians are somewhat false in my opinion. It is just like many Baptists, who no longer believe in baptism according to Acts 2:38 for remission of sins, or Democrats who try to rig elections – they contradict their name, which is ignorant, to say the least.

I still support Dr. Paul and hope he wins, at least Guilliani dropped out and Obama is defeating Hillary and McCain. 10-4 Over and Out

One problem is trolling and off topic stuff.

The other problem is censorship of good threads by self appointed moderators.

It's Michaels site and he deserves our thanks. He doesn't have the time to answer the huge volume of emails he gets.

I've made some suggestions here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37751

An example of an overactive flagger/deleter:

Falsely calling good guy a troll
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37718#comment-331107
Some other examples.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37692#comment-330855
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37687#comment-330849
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37366#comment-327335
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37764#comment-331594
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37755#comment-331602
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/33584#comment-287715
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/31924#comment-273680
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/37689#comment-331110

We should have at least one moderated thread. With time I'm sure several (many) moderators can be enlisted to seperate the grain from the chaff in a timely manner (i.e.: minutes). The subterfuge is bad and bound to get worse. (I'll volunteer.)

No one would let the enemy hang out in their bivouac and start fights. If that would be insane. This is our bivouac.

Some of the trolls have been around awhile and are pretty clever. With 2 months to go. I would suggest that there be no more new accounts for the next 2 months. People can still read the post and get info.

Moderation is not an option. I'll do my best to flag distractive post. Unfortunately a lot of them do come from genuine supporters who are lead by emotions and the media attacks. And, hopefully some of you are starting to read between the lines and see the underlying intent of the post or hidden meanings / assumptions. (usually the most offensive ones assume Ron Paul wont win so what will we do, ect.)

Kidbquick is a definate troll. Hopefully he is gone. I'll start a list as I see them. But, man I need to get out canvasing.

And we should enlarge our grassroots internet portals. You want a board which hase moderators an a hierarchical topics format? A board where the saboteure can't sabotage our efforts? A video creation board for Dr. Paul's campaign? And more: www.wtpcast.com

That much everybody knows.. it's getting out of hand..

Some one I know searched for info and googled Ron Paul. The found Daily Paul.

After they read some of the posts, they conclude that Ron Paul's campaign must be in serious trouble because most of the posts were negative and love to name-call. The supporters seemed to be squabbling and freaking out about non-issues and getting people off way off track, while others were encouraging and thinking of new and better ways to help Dr. Paul get elected.

They really had to search this site to understand Ron Paul's stance on the issues, and what his supporters think about his stances.

They were perplexed at how much negative stuff there is, and wondered if Ron Paul is really the man he says he is, because although he is always polite in public and never indulges in personal attacks against anyone or any group, his supporters seem to be very very different from him.

So do you think that can't happen? It did, at least once that I know of personally. BTW, that person will now not vote for Ron Paul, not because they don't agree with him, but because they just can't trust that he is who he says he is because of the garbage they had to weed through thrown down by his own supporters online.

The online Moles are succeeding from within by using Ron Paul supporters to destroy the chances of the one man who can save our country.

Wake up. We don't need someone to censor this forum. Censor yourself.

In fact I've been surfing for a more organized and positive forum with strong moderation rules (zero tolerance for BS & attacks and whiney complaints), and rather providing insight, upbeat motivation, exploration of positions -- with sources, source documents, sourced quotes, etc.

Anyone know of a place ? Anyone starting such a place?

Gwen Kraft

"Personal liberty AND personal responsibility." - Dr. Paul

There are many "Moles" from the other candidates camps who belong to this forum and other Ron Paul forums. Their posts are easy to spot and some fall for them every time.

This is how they operate: They post things to play on your emotions and anger you, encourage you to say a lot of nasty or silly stuff. They make you go off topic and run down rabbit trails on purpose, and then they record the information you (and I) have posted. They supply it to their own campaign, who figures out they best way to use it against us and Ron Paul. This is called the game of politics, and it has been going on for years and years and years, way before the internet was around. Ask anyone who has ever been involved in a campaign. They know. They've seen the dirty tricks and heard the horrible lies, and had to do damage control.

Although you can't censor anyone's posts, you, Michael, and others, who truly care can continue to encourage people to use discretion and sensitivity before posting an entry that would hurt Ron Paul and make the poster look like a fool. If some of you would just stop taking the bait and getting hooked in, these threads would die for lack of interest and no damage would be done.

Politics is a nasty, dirty business. Stop playing into their hands. Think before you post about how they can use your words against Dr. Paul. Do you want someone to have to clean up a mess you caused by posting without thinking? Ron Paul has enough crap to worry about than having to do damage control due to his own supporters lack of discretion and discernment.