56 votes

UPDATE: My vote for Ron Paul was NOT "disappeared." dabooda screws up.

With great embarrassment, I have discovered my lost vote, which seems to have been recorded, after all.

Here's what happened: A couple of months ago, in order to win a seat on the Los Angeles Republican Central Committee, I went to the County Registrar to get walking lists of my precinct. The walk lists show all registered voters in the precinct and notes their party affiliation. I used the walk list to collect signatures from registered Republicans to support my nominating petition. My precinct number was listed at the top of the printouts . . . and that's what messed me up.

Between the time I received my precinct maps and the election (a space of just two months), the County evidently re-drew the boundaries of my precinct. The old precinct number is now just across the street from me, and I'm now in a precinct with a different number. Checking the election results for the new number, I see three votes for Ron Paul -- which is likely correct.

It wasn't my vote that was "disappeared" -- it was my precinct affiliation that vanished. And very recently, too: while I was thrashing around looking for a remedy for the fraud, Curt Schultz of the SuperBrocure project sent me a list of the SuperVoters in the Precinct number which is no longer mine -- and behold, my name was still there. I guess his list is a few weeks old, too.

This wasn't a truly stupid error, but it was an error nonetheless, and I apologize to everyone whose hopes were raised at the prospect of PROOF of election fraud. That includes me. Very sorry.

This original post is now of only historical interest:

I plastered my entire precinct with Ron Paul SuperBrochures, California held its primary election on June 5th, and in my Precinct Ron Paul received a grand total of one vote. Romney got 16. The interesting thing: the one vote Paul received WASN'T MINE. I went to the poll &voted in person, but the one vote that got counted was from an absentee ballot (and it happens that I know one guy in my Pct. who cast an absentee ballot for Paul, personally -- so that wasn't my vote, miscounted as an absentee vote.)

No, there is no possibility that I marked my ballot wrong. My vote was "disappeared." By a programmable voting machine.

I have already sent emails to the Paul campaign and to the California Secretary of State, reporting this little bit of election fraud.

Now I'm going to canvas some of my neighbors who had seemed sympathetic to Paul, to find out if they actually voted for him -- I would not be amazed to learn that more votes than mine were disappeared or flipped.

I'm open to suggestions: what more can I do to raise some hell about this?

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I totally respect you

I'm now a dabooda fan. BIG TIME!

Yes, keep up the scrutiny.

Remember when Matt McDonald confronted, bravely, the Maine GOP and had them stand down. They changed their Paul-unfriendly results to his results, increasing the vote count by some 8 votes in our favor.

The published results for California show Romney at 78%. Your skepticism is justified.

You might even consider canvassing a larger neighborhood. The rigging appears to be most common in precincts holding over 250 Repub. voters. If you work hard enough, you may well yet find evidence of rigging.

And don't feel bad at all. If we overshoot occassionally, it's no cause for self-deprication. On the other hand, yes, we should all triple and double check, and that has been done, by and large.

Since the other precinct only

Since the other precinct only had 1 vote, it seems like it still might be a good idea to canvas that area to see if you can find more than 1 Paul voter.

thank You For Having The Character To Not Disappear Your Thread

It appears a number of forum participates participated in your thread combining your content with there's. I've always believed it to be a flaw in the forum's design to permit a thread originator to flush a live thread causing everyone's comments to swirl around the bowl, never to be seen again.

Thank you, dabooda, your enlightenment is our edification. (And sometimes vice versa).

Don't be

too hard on yourself.
At least you found the error and reported it. That kind of honesty is worth a lot! ;-)

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Guess I need to bump this

to let everyone know about the kill-joy update.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

woops lol

it is all good, what matters is you spoke up when you thought something was wrong. It's more comforting to know your vote didn't disappear.

How to look up my precinct?

Hey, where do I find the results for my precinct? My family of 4 voters all voted for Ron and if there are less then 4, then we got them where I live too.

Donate as much as possible to the campaign!
There are 850,000 people that like Dr. Paul on Facebook, if everyone donated just $5 a week then he would have $4,250,000 every week! DONATE!!!

Call you county clerk

once they are on the phone, tell them you want to find out what precinct you are in. They will ask for your address. They will then tell you.

while you're at it, ask them what county district you are in and then go to your Republican Central Committee and see if there is a seat available. If there is one, take it!

I can just TAKE an empty seat?

Okay, I have been registered Republicrat (lol) for less then 2 months, am I ALLOWED to take a seat? If not my Mom might be able to. But how can that happen? people can just fill empty positions without being voted in? This sounds to good to be true.

Donate as much as possible to the campaign!
There are 850,000 people that like Dr. Paul on Facebook, if everyone donated just $5 a week then he would have $4,250,000 every week! DONATE!!!

When you do find out, let us know.

Post, here or elsewhere the totals from your precinct. Can you post that precinct or PM me? Will help you check it out.

from my supervisiorial district

139 for Ron Paul
for my county 754 for Ron Paul, Romney 3367
for my city, 52 for Ron Paul, Romney took 179

Granger, do the numbers for the city seem correct?

In your city how many people do you know who voted for the doctor, personally?

Dr. K

Being I collected 29 signatures as a Ron Paul Republican for my seat on the central committee, and I did poll watching, which my count was 48, their count was 56 (which would appear correct as I could not be at all 4 polling stations at the same time when the polls closed, the last minute voter count appears appropriate). Also, I was a little surprized when after the election a couple of people admitted to me that they had voted for Ron Paul. Including myself, I know 9 people who voted for Ron Paul as fact.

Yes and no

If you were a decline to state party, or no prefered party voter, you must wait three months. If you belonged to another party, a year. If I was you, I would still show up as a guest. I was a guest for a year and I learned allot.

If a seat is open in your county distrct you ask to be appointed, or wait to the 2014 election and register with the county clerk to petition for ballot access and run against the seated memebrs to take their place.

If you are a Republican for a year, and there is no one seated on your county, you can show up and they will seat you, the process takes about three meetings.

first you call the county clerk and find out if there is a seat open. My county has 11 seats waiting for Ron Paul Republicans to show up and take those seats.

It's not too good to be true. It's that people don't know central committee even exist or what they do. It's all public, but the MSM isn't talking about it.

Your County Registrar of Voters website.

Look for the County (NOT State) department that handles elections, then hunt down your precinct number on their maps. Once you know your precinct number, look at the "Statement of Votes Cast." In Los Angeles County, this is a HUMONGOUS list, easily over 1000 pages of tiny type. You'll have to hunt through it until you luck onto the race you're interested in, then scroll though the precinct numbers until you find yours.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

I think they will be given a number

Also. I get allot of info from mine through email.

Join the lawyers for Paul

Join the lawyers for Paul lawsuit


While taking a baseball bat to these god forsaken machines that are robbing ALL OF US OF TRUTHFUL ELECTIONS would ideally be the best option.... the next best move is EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!

Canvas your neighbors.. and ANYONE who claims they voted for RP... do the following.

1-- print an affidavit of facts online and fill it out (you can even pre-fill it out with a simple statement, like....
" My name is ____ and I voted for RP on June 5 2012 at _____ voting location in ____ precinct. I used a machine to vote, and my receipt number is _____" (assuming they even have a receipt.)

2-- get their approx time they voted . and keep a record of this next to their voting info.

3-- Once you have canvassed your neighborhood, (and assuming you find multiple anomalies) Type up a letter and copy all the affidavits and send multiple copies to multiple locations.
1-- Sect. of States office.
2-- FBI fraud division
3-- local DA office
4-- Lawyers for RP.
5-- County Clerk's office.

Then after you have done that, either speak w/ LfRP about a lawsuit , or file one your self, with the asked remedy to be to eliminate electronic voting machines from use!

Do you have your recipt?

Go to your County Clerk's office and and ask to speak to the assistant registrar. Show them your recipt and tell them why you don't believe you ballot was counted, and ask why.

I don't know all your details, for example, I know that voters who brought in their mailed-in ballots had those ballots opened in some prescincts and had to vote provisional. Not all provisional ballots have been counted.

If it was me, I would gather as much information as I could, get as many statements from the registrar concerning my ballot, and THEN I would turn to L4RP/ T4J/ EFRP groups to join the lawsuit.

I hope you have attended your Central Committee meetings, where you may find poll workers, if not "your" poll worker. You can also get information from them. I don't know how else to find out about poll workers at this time. I observed the polls at my prescints, so not only did I meet ALL the poll workers, but they knew I was counting the votes. I think when we participate in the process we do more to assure there is no fraud. It's why I know one prescint inspector was opening ballots and they had not one provisional. Part of the problem too, was some folks dropped off their ballot, and walked away.

I also contacted people I knew that I had registered Republican and asked them, "I know it's really not my business how you voted, but I'm curious, did you vote for Ron Paul?"

One friend said, "Well, to be honest, I didn't. He's too old. I hope our friendship is deeper than politics." I didn't tell him, but I thought, "Our friendship is deeper, because you need to be schooled."

Does an "I voted" sticker count?

That's the only receipt I have for my vote. I did sign the register at the poll when I voted, so there IS paper evidence of my vote. I will contact the registrar and see what good that can do. My ballot was NOT provisional; I've been registered Republican since 2007 and my name appeared correctly on the voter lists at the poll. And I did not simply drop off my ballot; I watched them feed it into the machine.

In California, the poll workers just feed your paper ballot into a voting machine -- I don't know if they do any counting of the votes themselves, or just babysit the machine, which produces the results (the latter seems more likely to me).

I have not attended any Central Committee meetings yet, but doubt that ANY of the poll workers in my precinct were Republicans. My precinct is about 90% Democrat, and it's rare to see a Republican even running for a local office. No help there, I'm afraid.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

It's worth a shot

Like you, I live in a VERY Liberal area, but there were plenty of Republicans working the polls, and one was an inspector (and not a very good one).

I hope that you will find your registrar VERY kind, and helpful, as I did. By law they can not be partisian, and I think since being Republicans we are rare birds, they are especially kind to us.

You should be able to pin point your vote being in such a small prescinct with so few votes.

GOOD LUCK, and THANK YOU for giving a damn and making a difference. You'll be fantastic on your Central Committee.. Depending on your county, you may find it better than Meet up since we have Ron Paul Republicans in nearly all counties and many precints... you might be able to be seated immediatley if there are no Republicans, or too few seated in your county district.

Kudos to you!!!

These people see precincts

These people see precincts like yours as "the margins", and you know how they like to tamper with margins...

The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. - Heinlein

With so few votes, you must be in a small precinct and I hope

you can get to the bottom of it. Good luck!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Not completely tiny, but few voted.

Out of 153 registered Republicans in my precinct, only 26 cast ballots in the primary. That's a good thing, in this case: if there had been a lot of votes, with a token small number of votes for Ron Paul, I would not have had any way to know that my vote had been disappeared.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

This is a very, very important post, one of the most critical

all year. You may well have broken the back of the evil empire, dabooda. I'll be in contact with you immediately.

First, you must upload your vote in the form of an affidavit to www.ronpaulvotecount.org.

Do also contact the people at Lawyersforronpaul.com; make out yet another affidavit to be a part of the case there (www.electionfraudremedy.com).

I received your email, thanks.

And my reply should be in your inbox. I'll have the affidavit for you no later than Monday -- hopefully sooner. I've already sent a report to the electionfraudremedy.com folks.

UPDATE: I had the affidavit notarized, and just emailed a copy to your RonPaulVoteCount.Org

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

Fast fading are the days when the people are content with

rattling the change in their pockets and politely grumbling "well,whyioughta" as a response to having their votes 'disappeared'.

The fix is in.


It is sure it is fixed

What did you think? That the establishment - sending your children die while killing some other children on the opposite side of planet, weapons and ammo paid by you to their defense industry friends - would let you choose somebody else? I never can fully understand how it is possible most of the people believe such unlikely things. Maybe because they're too good to imagine such an evil. And I don't much believe that there is something to do about it except people go in masses to destroy the machines and kill everybody who would try to stop them.