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Tom Woods Video: The Problem of the Libertarian Moocher

I demand everything for free, says the libertarian moocher. Tom Woods responds.

http://youtu.be/pIVEdMyv2Tg

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Today someone saw an ad on the Daily Paul they didn't like

She took the time to send me a long, moralizing email and at the end accused me of being "greedy."

"Please stop pushing this agenda. Surely, you can't be that greedy." was how this person ended her email.

(As if an ad served through Google is pushing an agenda). I informed her that if she supported the site with a subscription: http://www.dailypaul.com/dp-subscribe that she wouldn't have to look at ads that she might find offensive.

I also sent her a link to this thread. I hope she watches the video.

NIce, profit means you are

NIce, profit means you are creating a positive thing in the market. Make as much profit as you can

BMWJIM's picture

Bravo Michael!

I step over the line sometimes but you ALWAYS seem to bring me back.

DAMN shame you are so much younger than I. You would make a great STATESMAN!

Semper Fi my young friend! Love you and please tell that young wife you both are the best!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

OMG, I love Tom Woods

What an inspiring human being. Nietzsche said that a society should not be judged by the average member, but by the most excellent members that it produces. When history looks back, let us be judged by men like Tom Woods and Ron Paul and Michael Nystrom.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

always good to hear Tom speak

though the title led me to believe it was about gj.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

ecorob's picture

i thought it was about...

glenda beck...lol

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Nice effort and congrats on needlessly goading Gary J supporters

In case you had trouble understanding Tom's video it's about "moochers", not just Libertarians.

ecorob's picture

needlessly goading...who?

what was the statist's name?

nevermind, i will just forget it...AGAIN!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

in case you have trouble comprehending what you read

i said the title led me to believe....

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

That you felt the need to

That you felt the need to explicitly state your belief does not impress.

ecorob's picture

it impressed me!

that you felt the need to be defensive is telling!

hahahahahhahaha

yes, laughing at you, AGAIN!

and your gj platform on the DP!

hehehehehhehehe

vu + gj = FAILURE

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Thank You for a Reminder

That everything costs money or time. There is no free lunch. If you want to work to bring liberty back you must either contribute time or money. But it is well worth it.

sharkhearted's picture

BRAVO!

Well said.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

The movement has attracted

The movement has attracted people who're younger and not very wealthy. We must grow this movement to more successful people. The problem is the wealthy often have "too much skin in the game" to advocate for its destruction. Thus us poor people, understanding how the system benefits those at the top, struggle at the bottom.

Why is this front page material?

I can't believe I even watched it. Am I going to be charged for clicking on it? After all nothing's for free....

Let's see if I can get a Godzilla vs Mothera episode on the front page.

Common guys, no offense to Tom Woods but what does this have to do with anything? Perhaps this stuff belongs on a Tom Woods Editorial site.....

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

ecorob's picture

because WE want it to be!

get it?

i guess not...lol

see the downvotes?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

reedr3v's picture

Tom is not the only Liberty super-generator

who is inadequately supported for the amount of his contributions. Other effective spokespeople are starved for funding due to our small numbers, grassroots general poverty, and the voluntary, easy-to-ignore mode of donation requests. I hear the same from many Liberty advocates and web sites.
If you have better ideas for funding voluntary work, please share them. We cannot expect Tom and others to do amazingly good work for Liberty AND be specialists in marketing and fundraising.

So sad to see DailyPaul lose

So sad to see DailyPaul lose the positive energy it once had and become taken over by a bunch of bickering selfish trolls spewing nothing but negative energy, destroying our movement...

ecorob's picture

i think you underestimate the movement...

stay tuned!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

deacon's picture

heh heh heh

i said basically the same thing
got down voted in a hurry,i might add
like it wasn't obvious who was behind that
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I don't claim to know more than

I don't claim to know more than anyone else, nor do I believe that any opinion other than mine is absolutely false. What I do know is that attacking people doesn't persuade them to come your way, doesn't persuade them to do anything, just turns them away, makes it easier for them to give up, to quit. Dr. Paul certainly doesn't deliver his message by attacking his perceived shortcomings of his own supporters...

Memo to Doc Woods

THEY ARE LINOs…LIBERTARIANS IN NAME ONLY!

For The Power of The Republic!

Actually

Most of the stuff these people talk about most Americans should already know anyway. Even some of it should be instinctual. I mean it is just common sense. Reading the constitution and the declaration of independence goes along way. Like the fact that the federa income tax is illegal. That the government is breaking the law when they tax you. The constitution is law. It is the law of the land and the government violates it everyday. They are trully criminals. This is just not specualtion or opinion. They are criminals by the definition.

"But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing." - Andrew Jackson

I'm sure Tom has heard some

I'm sure Tom has heard some negative flack about his liberty classroom series, so that probably contributed to this, but intellectual property has costs associated with it, just as manufactured goods. For too long, advertising has helped to keep cost of things like newspapers and other information sources lower than they actually cost, but as the model changes, we have to realize there is cost as well.

What are you talking about?

A moocher is somebody that spends no time learning how the physical universe works around them. They have no idea how the lights turn on, how the refrigerator works, how to frame a shelter, how a computer operates, how a camera records visual information, how youtube broadcasts, or how the internet works in general. They leave it to the experts who have created the world you see around you.

Our system rewards the least educated of us. Our civilizations are bunches of uneducated blind mice fiddling with philosophy an economics because it's much easier and rewarding than calculus and physics. When you create a PRODUCT that somebody else can actually use to better their lives, then you can talk about mooching. The best thing about libertarianism is that it stifles the advancement of people in power who's main ambition is the advancement of their own philosophies. This opens the door for people who's main ambition isn't ideological; but scientific.

Most of you, who speak for the liberty movement, are a bunch of overpaid philosophers who have next to no knowledge pertaining to how anything works around you. Just be happy that any of us listen to you at all. The fact that we actually buy your literature is a huge cherry on your pie. It wasn't Rothbard or Mises that made liberty popular, it was the engineers who made the internet(Which I've noticed you mooch off of quite frequently). I actually love your stuff, it's fun; but it's a hobby. If I want an education, I'll buy a new physics book.

I believe it was Abraham Lincoln that once said...

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Of course, I should probably heed this advice myself, but one thing I was curious about in the above statement (actually there were numerous things, but I do not want to get too far into this):

Who are you referring to when you state that you have noticed said person(s) mooching the internet? If said person(s) have paid for internet access, do you consider that mooching?

haha

To answer your questions...Tom Woods....and yes. The value of the internet is priceless, therefore paying anyone any amount of money for its use is insignificant to its value. Can you really put a price on the combined knowledge of the whole of humanity?

In that sense, we are all moochers, some more than others.

In my foolish mind:

The professional libertarian pays for the products that others create by teaching his knowledge of economic theory and historical documentation. I'm simply pointing out that technology is far more valuable than theories about economics and history. So, if you are a person who is contributing to technology, you mooch far less than somebody that isn't.

I don't really care who is a moocher and who isn't. I just don't want to hear about some disgruntled, well-off, PHD crying about how others need to pay more for his tiny service to the country. If that's the way he wants to be, I say, "Hey buddy, try getting a real job."

I'm still laughing at this

I'm still laughing at this post. Awesome. Definitely a classic.

"If I want an education, I'll buy a new physics book." Buy a book? Pfft, moocher. Learn physics on your own! Why do you need a "professional scientist" to spoon feed you, genius? I mean, you won't hire a mechanic to fix your car, or a technician to fix your fridge or PC, so why buy a book? Stop being a moocher.

God you're hilarious.

LOL

Obviously your not a golfer.