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Need help drilling a water well

Does anyone here have any experience with water well drilling? I need to sink a 250' well in mostly sandy soil. I got a quote from a local well driller for $20,000. YIKES! (normal rate IMO) Looking to buy a decent oldie but goodie well drilling rig, OR better yet maybe find an unemployed or underemployed well driller. I'm in Western AZ. Any ideas tips and suggestions about how to drill a water well this deep on the cheap are appreciated.

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BMWJIM's picture

Ira, e-mail me and I will give you

my phone number. I have drilled several hundred wells in my life. Although I have never gone more than 100 feet(Louisiana, we can hit water at 15 feet in some places,LoL!) It is really a simple process using two different sizes of pipe, a homemade bit, 200 gallon tank, high volume pump, gardenhose and two pipe wrenches. It will require a minimum of 2 people.

How did you locate the underground stream. I use two clothes hangers (walking from east to west or west to east, for all the underground streams flow north to south) as devining rods. This method has never failed me. You can prove this works by locating waterlines in your yard. As you cross the line the two pieces of metal will cross when above the pipes and open back up when you move away from them.

Let me know if I can help.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Jim, Did you get my email?

Jim,
Did you get my email?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

dowsing

The wire coat hanger has worked for me every time for finding pipes (both metal and pvc) and buried wire, but never worked for me for water :( With peach tree limb, though, found water on property where there supposedly wasn't any (owner's family had tried for years to find water on it, to no avail).

BMWJIM's picture

LoL! Can't explain it but

I have to think the good Lord just puts us where we need to be when it is time. No matter the method or the rod, it is the belief. Just my thoughts.

Jim

Growing a couple of peach trees now. Just might have to try it your way. For the knowledge and quite possibly the education of someone down the road.

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

dowsing

It's funny how many people out there think dowsing is a bunch of hooey. My grandfather used to use the metal hanger bit to locate the septic lines and water lines at lake resort he built. When I used 'em to locate buried lines in yard for electric co-op to dig, the guy was amazed. I was finishing up dowsing and flagging when he pulled up. He tried his fancy machine and was shocked that I was spot on.

My father used to drill for oil and gas years ago and had some dowsing rods (Y shaped ones) that were made with an acrylic tubular container at the tip where you could put items inside it and the arms were a fairly stout, but still bendable plastic or fiberglass. If I recall correctly, for oil he had oil shale inside, for water he used bits of peach tree limb, and he had some others as well (one for gold, one for gas, and a couple others). He had some with items permanently sealed inside and had one with a removable cap so that he could change out the attractant (for lack of a better term).

The ones my dad had are still in the family, stored away somewhere. I've never used those ones myself because wire and tree limb have done all I've ever needed. Because of this thread, though, I'm thinking I might have to dig for them. Anyway, just an idea for when you're bored :)

emailing you now BMW JIM. I

emailing you now BMW JIM. I used to know a world class dowser who found water in parts of AZ that others swore for decades water wasn't there. As a kid I remember my uncle doing this too.

I haven't located the underground stream, I think it's a huge underground aquifer.

Thanks for your help.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I would greatly appreciate

I would greatly appreciate being kept in the loop on this info,gentleman, as I am hoping to DIY my own well here in So CA. Can you cc me too??

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

You bet!

You bet!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Thanks, man...BTW did you get

Thanks, man...BTW did you get my instructions of building the H2O out gassing tank?

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Yes, I did. I pretty much

Yes, I did. I pretty much figured it out from the pics, thanks. The specifics were the icing on the cake.

I think one of these well drilling machines can be had for $5K or less. We could probably build one for a couple grand. If only a few people in a certain area needed wells drilled chipped in.....

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Ira, I cannot express how

Ira, I cannot express how much I wish I could chip in, but since 'o8 I've tapped out my savings...

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

I know, me too. I wasn't

I know, me too. I wasn't asking you, just hoping someone would see it and join us for some well water freedom

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Jefferson's picture

You might

find something here. I seem to remember some stuff on DIY wells in this thread. There was rig rig you could buy for much less than it would cost to pay someone to do it for you.
http://www.dailypaul.com/144584/miscellaneous-useful-off-gri...

Thanks!!!

Thanks!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Where are you getting the 250' figure from?

Any other wells around?

I called THE local well

I called THE local well driller. He said we could hit water at 150 to 160 feet and felt 250' would be a good depth. A local community within 1 mile sunk a well to 600'.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

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It's all about the gravel you

set the strainer in. It should be as coarse as possible. Don't stop drilling until you get the right pea gravel or you will always have a problem with sand clogging the well.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Hmmm, I would've thought at

Hmmm, I would've thought at least one person here would've had experience with drilling a water well

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown