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Vote Ron Paul in 2016, Obama in 2012 to keep Mitt out

To ensure that Ron Paul has a chance to run again in a GOP Primary, vote for Obama to keep Mitt from winning in 2012. If Mitt wins then he will automatically be the 2016 GOP Nominee and our movement won't advance.

We grow by leaps and bounds each time there is a GOP Primary.

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Other than Pat B in 1992. I

Other than Pat B in 1992. Against Bush Senior. I wouldn't consider him NWO. (Pat B) Rand can try in 16 though..... But yea, we need GOP Primaries. Nobody on the Left in any real numbers is talking about Liberty, Limited Gov and honest money and the banning of the central bank....

*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"

ya, i meant serious challengers

otherwise you could count Randall Terry against Obama.

Kennedy against Carter in 80 i'd call serious. Of course he failed.

incumbent loses when challenged from inside

Kennedy - Carter, Carter lost
Reagan - Ford, Ford lost

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

big deal

The other guy, an NWO guy, still won.

Our only shot is to win a GOP Primary with a liberty candidate. Then he will win the general election.

Well yes

It is a sh*t sandwich regardless

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

GOP primarys are over in CA

Romney won.


so do we want our next one in 2016, if so vote Obama. Or 2020? Then let Mitt win.

2016 will be open

and that's what we are working on now.

I'm NOT voting for Obama. I am voting with Ron Paul.

2016 will NOT be open if

you let Mitt win and that's what you'll be doing if you write in Ron Paul.

Take your pick, a write in vote that won't be counted anyway, or a 2016 GOP Primary.

From Pennsylvania swing state

I am 53 years old, I registered R when I was 18 and have never voted for a Democrat in my life. If Romney is the nominee, I will vote Obama.
We are guaranteed another shot in 2016 (Obama is lame duck)
Romney and Obama are both the same so it doesn't matter except for the 4 years vs at least 8 - remember, if Romney wins in 2012, he will be the automatic nominee in 2016.
Rand endorsement of Romney causes blowback
The GOP has kicked us out of the shrinking tent and I'm angry about it.

Look what the ptb did to Obama

It's not really so much WHO is president, but what PARTY has the POWER. Obama's presidency empowers the Democrats, and this is why Obama is not going to get my vote.

Being on a central committee, if Obama remains in POWER, ALL the Ron Paul Republicans who have gained seats will be under attack from two fronts, the Democrats, and the Neocons who will blame them.

Why any Ron Paul supporter would undermine his fellow patriots, Who did what Ron Paul asked ALL of us to do, GET ON A CENTRAL COMMITTEE AND GET POWER, shows they do not understand HOW our government operates, for they are actually undermining our gains in central committees (these affect your communities and state) for a spokesman, AKA president.

It's going to be Obama or Romney, and if it's Obama, Ron Paul supporters will have cut their own throats.

Ron Paulers cutting their own throats

would be to put Mitt and the neocons in charge of the GOP.

Then Mitt is the automatic nominee in 2016. No thanks.

Look at the last 30+ years of the liberty movement and tell me what 2 events had any significance. No it's not 3rd party, or Mike Gravel's bid at the Dem primary, or even Ron Paul 1988 Libertarian Party run, the 2 events were Ron Paul's 2008 GOP Primary run and Ron Paul's 2012 GOP Primary run.

The GOP Primary is our only teeth.

Are you seriously suggesting that Mitt is better than Obama? They are the same guy, even down to the universal health care law.

They already are in charge

Thanks or not.

Yes, Mitt is way better than Obama because as a Republican, it empowers my party, and that empowers me, and ALL Ron Paul Republicans with seats.

It's actually your las t chance, but don't listen to me, after all I actually did what Ron Paul told all of us to do, since my experience and committement pails by your powerful opinion that will cut my throat... just remember, it's cutting your own too.

empowers you

to the sidelines in 2016 instead of participating.

Mitt and Obama both suck but Mitt sucks twice as much as a prospect for that reason and that reason alone.

You are wrong

As a seated committee member, I will be vetting the issues and candidates for ballot access. It os my vote at every meeting until 2016 that will affect who and what is on the ballot all the way to 2016.

If Mitt wins in 2012 he's automatic nominee in 2016

Then it's twice as bad, we get no 2016 GOP Primary.

So the NWO wins again uncontested. At least when there's a GOP Primary we do have a real choice, hence our movement grows by leaps and bounds each time.

True. I was wrong, you are correct

The NWO is contested by the Ron Paul Republicans in the Central Committees, which the Democrats don't have anything like that.

screw the committes

We grow nationally in runs for President.


Prove it please.

Facts appears to me, we didn't GROW. Oh we got voters,, stupidf powerless idiots, but did we get anyone inside?

Oh that would be me. Well, lets drop that power for a vote?

Enjoy Obama, I'm sticking in to fight him. You twiddle your thumbs and wait for the next election, and if it's on your ballot or not, I took part in that. What did you do? write a stupid letter to an editor like it counts?

Get a CLUE.

Get on a committee or wait for 4 years.


you're on a committee that adopts platforms that get ignored anyway.

Sorry even the president can't fix everything but he can come the closest to doing so.

Getting to President Paul (ron or rand) is priority 1 asap, everything else is a waste of time by comparison.

So you can't proove it

You knock what you don't know and think youre smart.

Good Luck!!!

prove what that only president matters?

that's not exactly a conspiracy theory there chief.

Speaking of chief... you want troops brought home? Need a liberty candidate at president/commander-in-chief.

Your dilly dallying at stupid committees won't make that happen.

good stuff




actually it's not that intuitive

i wrote in ron paul last time but if i realized this i would have voted to keep mccain out.


If you vote for Obama for 2012 you won't have to worry about 2016. You will probably have given him, as the puppet for the PTB, another 4 years to finish off the USA, if it isn't too late already. Ron Paul is the only candidate who knows and understands how the SHTF...and how to fix it. I'm trusting the campaign has something up their sleeve.

..and I'm not saying vote for Romney.

I live in

I live in 1 of the 8 states where we cannot write-in a presidential candidate.

If I can't vote for Ron Paul, I'm not sure where my vote is going yet, but definitely not to Romney.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

so set up a 2016 GOP Primary

By voting to keep Mitt out. That's what this thread is all about.

then you are saying

sit it out and let Mittbama take not only the 2012 election but also take away our 2016 primary.

If you vote for the obama version of mittbama we at least get a 2016 primary.

Vote for Barry?

Obama should have no problem defeating Romney as it is. By giving him more votes you provide him with the appearance of a mandate from the citizens of the country to continue on as he has.
I say, if we can't have Ron Paul, let us have the next best thing: an undeniable voice in the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, as well as the individual state legislatures. Fund the campaigns of LIBERTY across the country. Donate to Tisha Casida, Kerry Bentivolio, John Dennis, et. al., even if they aren't going to be your direct representatives, they still represent you.