Chris Hedges, Lead Plaintiff in NDAA Lawsuit Against Obama: "All we have are acts of civil disobedience."

... the liberty movement?
They talk about the media and party duopoly.
They talk about becoming a political pariah by opposing the wars and erosion of civil liberties.
They talk about being labeled a "terrorist organization".
The one thing they don't talk about is us.

They act as if the Ron Paul Revolution doesn't even exist.

Why?

They are just as much a part of the controlled opposition as Mitt Romney. Maybe even more so since they claim to be on the fringe and are more likely to absorb and neutralize the most ardent "revolutionaries".

They are rebels without a clue.

Many good comments below, thank you all. I was moved by the video and it's true quiet tone. I am like one of the women there re: Obama in 2008. I was lucky I remembered that I am a libertarian after all, and from my political involvement in 2008 I knew about Ron Paul, already then watched some videos sent by friendly Paulites on the fence. So I joined lightly in the Fall of 2011 only to observe the media taboo on Paul - and this convinced me immediately.

This thread shows one of the best ways to create the state of unity and solidarity in our country - without a compromise - which is badly needed soon, before the great collapse. Talking about like minded people who were given different political tags is not a compromise. It is wisdom out of a great necessity.

We construe unnecessary tags of parties, beliefs and individuals. The tags are only useful when we learn from them, when we solidify our understanding. But the real fight is about MANY ISSUES AND IDEAS. Like the wars, fed, war on drugs, the marshal law "laws".
On each issue there are many many Americans and humans all over the world that think like us. We should unite on issues. Talk. Learn.

In a way it is like with the names of diseases, for instance "Diabetes". It is only a social label. But it consists of many factors that it may have in common with other such labels. Thus betterment of this illness (a cure) comes from research of the minimal factors that play role. And like all labels some have quite harmful effect of people who carry that illness.

It is all about issues and ideas - not labels and personalities. It is good to find out what "liberty" means to others. So it does not become an empty tag.

...Like Chris Hedges and Naomi Wolf...in battling to protect our liberties.

They are patriots.

Not unlike how we need to support those on the right, that we may disagree with from time to time, such as Ron Paul's son...and, to some extent, many of the neocons themselves.

And many of them are also patriots...though misinformed (heh...ex-neocon here).

Seriously, this NDAA lawsuit is an important movement. I get tired of all the purists on here ("Oh he's a socialist...we can't talk to him. Or she's a neocon...we can't talk to her") nonsense.

At the end of the day, if they believe in protecting liberty, then I don't care what their political affiliation is. I will stand with them shoulder to shoulder and fight for our inalienable natural rights until the very last man.

Even though I disagree with Chris Hedges on a lot, he is an extremely intelligent man who's ideas are worth learning about. He's stated in interviews that he agrees with what Ron Paul says on foreign policy, on civil liberties, on the Constitution, and on fiscal responsibility.

I think a lot of times we forget that there are people whom we would consider to be on "the left" who do believe in fiscal responsibility, and differ from the "libertarian-capitalist" perspective only in terms in believing in more banking regulations, etc.

I also find a lot of us are too quickly turned off by dissent from the general economic views most of us hold, even though there can be excellent allies there.

Plus, we can learn and help cultivate our own ideas from listening to people like Hedges.
Becoming too strict and dogmatic hinders our intellectual growth.

Why the indefinite detention provisions in this NDAA act were put forth, is exactly what i thought intuitively when I heard of these provisions.

Many understand that this is highly unconstitutional and violating our most basic rights, but I never hear many people ask exactly why the government has been taking these very martial like legislating steps (Patriot act, Drone Deployment act, etc.).

Hearing Chris and these two other women all agree it's because of the collapse of Globalization and the inevitability of a world wide economic collapse was sort of relieving in a way to hear. Sometimes I don't think enough people think that these constant coup's of our liberties through government force are for any real central reason. It's becoming clearer and clearer that the world economic situation is indeed very serious, our government is preparing for it, and we need to be aware and prepared. No way are we going to tolerate a martial law society, we may all get to live through the biggest revolution this world has ever seen. I only hope many more people start to wake up, and fast.