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I have spent hours watching his you tube videos and intend to buy his books. A true libertarian, not afraid to speak truth to puppet power.
God bless Chris Hedges!
A patriot must always be prepared to defend his country from his government.
War is the force the gives us meaning. ~Hedges
The Moon is down ~Steinbeck
These two books made it easy to see how our invasion and occupation would unfold in Iraq.
Free includes debt-free!
I'm glad there's still people on the left who fight for freedom and liberty. Even when I was a Democrat, I could still see the whole spectacle behind MSNBC vs FOX it's a circus that goes back and forth. The Republicans want to blame Obama for everything and not Bush. The democrats want to blame everything on Bush and not Obama. While those who can actually think for themselves can see the lack of difference between the two and say hey, they're both the same bloody people!
The Democrats want to send us to war, the Republicans want to send us to war. The Democrats want to bail out the banks, the Republicans want to bail out the banks. The Democrats profit from the drug war, the Republicans profit from the drug war. The Democrats kneel before Israel, the Republicans kneel before Israel. Both compete against each other for how much harder they can kiss Noddin' Yahoo's ass cheeks.
The lovely lady's right, the lamestream media will become irrelevant to the majority of Americans. Their reporting as many are now understanding, is not reporting at all. No such journalism exists. And we'll come in to fill the gaps. No wonder the elites are trying to control the internet!
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government." - Thomas Paine
(╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯┻━┻ "RON PAUL 2012 DAMNIT!"
... the liberty movement?
They talk about the media and party duopoly.
They talk about becoming a political pariah by opposing the wars and erosion of civil liberties.
They talk about being labeled a "terrorist organization".
The one thing they don't talk about is us.
They act as if the Ron Paul Revolution doesn't even exist.
They are just as much a part of the controlled opposition as Mitt Romney. Maybe even more so since they claim to be on the fringe and are more likely to absorb and neutralize the most ardent "revolutionaries".
They are rebels without a clue.
The Virtual Conspiracy
It's alright if the Ron Paul Revolution wasn't mentioned. The point is not the glorification of any specific organization. The point is to make the case for freedom. It doesn't matter who you're affiliated with. Our job is to inform the public that their rights are being violated and to take action against said violations. Since the Occupy movement is out in the open more, not just in America but around the world, than of coarse it would be mentioned. Rather than complaining, one should be happy that the message of liberty is spreading. It's not about your or me, it's about reaching the world! Because that's what we're trying to save. To say that they are rebel without a clue, I wouldn't say that at all. I know a few who organized in the Occupy movement for Philly, they're well knowledgeable indeed.
Many occupiers were at the Ron Paul rally in Philly and I as one of the security guards had to try and stop them from getting to the van when he was leaving. They are not a controlled opposition at all. They work independently.
So just grow up, catch a clue, and get over it mate. Its not about one faction, but all factions who fight for freedom.
This makes me think of a quote I heard once that I am sure to get wrong. Please correct me if you can. Something like, where the nanny state is the police state is swiftly on it's heels.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
Many good comments below, thank you all. I was moved by the video and it's true quiet tone. I am like one of the women there re: Obama in 2008. I was lucky I remembered that I am a libertarian after all, and from my political involvement in 2008 I knew about Ron Paul, already then watched some videos sent by friendly Paulites on the fence. So I joined lightly in the Fall of 2011 only to observe the media taboo on Paul - and this convinced me immediately.
This thread shows one of the best ways to create the state of unity and solidarity in our country - without a compromise - which is badly needed soon, before the great collapse. Talking about like minded people who were given different political tags is not a compromise. It is wisdom out of a great necessity.
We construe unnecessary tags of parties, beliefs and individuals. The tags are only useful when we learn from them, when we solidify our understanding. But the real fight is about MANY ISSUES AND IDEAS. Like the wars, fed, war on drugs, the marshal law "laws".
On each issue there are many many Americans and humans all over the world that think like us. We should unite on issues. Talk. Learn.
In a way it is like with the names of diseases, for instance "Diabetes". It is only a social label. But it consists of many factors that it may have in common with other such labels. Thus betterment of this illness (a cure) comes from research of the minimal factors that play role. And like all labels some have quite harmful effect of people who carry that illness.
It is all about issues and ideas - not labels and personalities. It is good to find out what "liberty" means to others. So it does not become an empty tag.
Ron Paul ... forever.
We've figured out the status are in agreement both the democrats & republicans. Chris Hedges doesn't agree with them & neither does Ron Paul. So those of us who are not status could come to an agreement also.
The agreement for us, is the crony capitalism. Now to work together on this, is the challenge.
Chris Hedges should note that the lobbyists don't visit Ron Paul. They both don't like crony capitalism & corporatism. Their answers to corporatism is different.
If the libertarians would address that the corporate structure involves government, then we could see a problem with having corporations.
...and sad. Also very sad.
"in essence, it's very hard to make me afraid"
The UnderLying Truth
Anti-Panda Propaganda Systems
Ron Paul: "If you ever can bring about revolutionary changes two things would be required: young people... and music."
"Liberals are a useless lot. They talk about peace and do nothing to challenge our permanent war economy. They claim to support the working class, and vote for candidates that glibly defend the North American Free Trade Agreement. They insist they believe in welfare, the right to organize, universal health care and a host of other socially progressive causes, and will not risk stepping out of the mainstream to fight for them. The only talent they seem to possess is the ability to write abject, cloying letters to Barack Obama—as if he reads them—asking the president to come back to his “true” self. This sterile moral posturing, which is not only useless but humiliating, has made America’s liberal class an object of public derision."
...Like Chris Hedges and Naomi Wolf...in battling to protect our liberties.
They are patriots.
Not unlike how we need to support those on the right, that we may disagree with from time to time, such as Ron Paul's son...and, to some extent, many of the neocons themselves.
And many of them are also patriots...though misinformed (heh...ex-neocon here).
Seriously, this NDAA lawsuit is an important movement. I get tired of all the purists on here ("Oh he's a socialist...we can't talk to him. Or she's a neocon...we can't talk to her") nonsense.
At the end of the day, if they believe in protecting liberty, then I don't care what their political affiliation is. I will stand with them shoulder to shoulder and fight for our inalienable natural rights until the very last man.
Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.
Like your posts, Chris from Norfolk
Ron Paul is da man.
Thats so funny...I was thinking the same thing about Chris, and then read your post
Friends in liberty,
I don't think it's good form to post stuff some socialists, even though we may agree with them on civil liberties. I think it dilutes the site from being distinguished as a libertarian/conservative site. Anything on the front page should be from libertarians/conservatives.
Post Ron Paul talking about the NDAA instead.
RAND PAUL 2016.
We as freedom lovers have more in common with Chris Hedges than with anyone who compromises by endorcing Mitt Romney. That is the most self distructive act that you can name. How can you not learn that the lessor of two evils is evil.
If you listen to your hero Ron Paul gradualism does not work. The system can not change by doing the same old. Chris Hedges gets it strait when he says both parties are the same. How to change the oligarchical corporate system that has evolved is the real issue. The libertarian way is to introduce choice into the system. This will ultimately bring down the whole Corporatist system. Ron Paul wants competing currency. LISTEN to YOUR NESTOR and study Rothbard. Ron Paul is OUR NESTOR.
Sorry Carpet, but it's like I posted earlier, I just don't think you have the correct attitude. First of all, Bernie Sanders does not come close to comparing to Chris Hedges.
Let's put Hedges aside for a moment though, because I don't want to seem like an apologist for him.
I have been a huge fan of Ron Paul since I found him online, before he even planned to run for President in 2008.
I don't think we've had a better politician in office for DECADES.
I refuse to completely limit my views though.
Why should we only listen to what Ron Paul has to say on the NDAA? Where is the "free thought" in that?
I support individualism. I support free-markets.
But that doesn't mean I only look towards Ron Paul. It doesn't mean I only look towards the Austrian School.
I learn from everywhere, I support my own conclusions from the knowledge I've gained, regardless if they fall in line with some kind of strict philosophy. I am not dogmatic.
Sometimes I think people in the liberty movement are just as bad as our current politicians when it comes to "talking points."
People will quote, and talk about their love for philosophers like Jeffersons, or Adam Smith, without realizing that if they studied the views of those people in their entirety they would find them more aligned with people like Hedges.
"Why I am a Socialist" by Chris Hedges http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081229_why_i_am_a_soci...
And I didn't say only listen to Ron Paul. Listen to whomever you want to listen. What I'm talking about is editorial style for the website.
I never denied he was a "socialist."
It's a broad term though.
The same as "libertarian."
Do you consider Ron Paul the same type of libertarian as Nick Gillespie? Do you consider either of them the same kind of libertarian as Matt Zwolinski, or Gary Chartier?
If you knew about their individual philosophies then you would most definitely say "No, their views are not identical." That doesn't make either of them fit any less under the broad term of "libertarian."
Unless you're the type of person who uses terms like "socialist...conservative...republican...liberal...." etc as insults words like some sheep (and I hate using the term 'sheep' for the most part) do, then you shouldn't be making broad statements about a person based on their political philosophy.
that features Ron Paul or any true libertarian (I don't count self-proclaimed Libertarian Chomsky since he does not honor the NAP,) we are far stronger in our principles. We need not fear their arguments since there is no way they can persuade us to adopt the coercion their ideologies depend on. Left partisans have far more to fear from our very consistent and ethically sound ideas, since their base is mired in misconceptions that would vanish if our best spokespeople were given a fair hearing.
Guys like Hedges and Greenwald do much good work and are honest, and we may yet form coalitions in the future, to build a stronger resistance to the Empire.
Even though I disagree with Chris Hedges on a lot, he is an extremely intelligent man who's ideas are worth learning about. He's stated in interviews that he agrees with what Ron Paul says on foreign policy, on civil liberties, on the Constitution, and on fiscal responsibility.
I think a lot of times we forget that there are people whom we would consider to be on "the left" who do believe in fiscal responsibility, and differ from the "libertarian-capitalist" perspective only in terms in believing in more banking regulations, etc.
I also find a lot of us are too quickly turned off by dissent from the general economic views most of us hold, even though there can be excellent allies there.
Plus, we can learn and help cultivate our own ideas from listening to people like Hedges.
Becoming too strict and dogmatic hinders our intellectual growth.
"there are people whom we would consider to be on "the left" who do believe in fiscal responsibility"
and they are called fiscally conservative Democrats who believe in the rule of law. BIG D.
We need unity. We can't live in a country divided. That's what nobama wants to do. Divide us so he can take over. He is the most divisive person ever. Always blaming Republicans for his failures or devious ploys. It's a game to him. For us it's our very lives.
he was also courageous in calling out the "black bloc" fake-anarchist provocateurs at occupy wall st. chris hedges is totally fearless and a great ally.
Why the indefinite detention provisions in this NDAA act were put forth, is exactly what i thought intuitively when I heard of these provisions.
Many understand that this is highly unconstitutional and violating our most basic rights, but I never hear many people ask exactly why the government has been taking these very martial like legislating steps (Patriot act, Drone Deployment act, etc.).
Hearing Chris and these two other women all agree it's because of the collapse of Globalization and the inevitability of a world wide economic collapse was sort of relieving in a way to hear. Sometimes I don't think enough people think that these constant coup's of our liberties through government force are for any real central reason. It's becoming clearer and clearer that the world economic situation is indeed very serious, our government is preparing for it, and we need to be aware and prepared. No way are we going to tolerate a martial law society, we may all get to live through the biggest revolution this world has ever seen. I only hope many more people start to wake up, and fast.
that those were the reasons why....
I linked the above video at the part where Foster Gamble outlines clearly the measures the government is taking to prepare but recommend you all watch that entire video and the whole thing is very much on point.
We need to get ready my friends and never stop fighting. Ron Paul has been the greatest messenger and is a true hero in our time and many others around the world are aware of what is going on and fighting in the same direction. Lets keep it up!
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
people in general.
Sure you fellow Daily Paulers are very much in that bracket of knowing what's really going on (I think that's a big part in what drives us here to this site), but we still make up a small minority of informed people within the whole country. I think I was directing it towards the sum of everyone, especially most people we encounter in our daily lives.
But yes, we need to educate others as well as prepare for the worst, as well as keep spreading the message of liberty and freedom. We will win in the end if we keep at it.
people do know. How could they not? Even people in the Appalachian Mountains know. Everyone knows. People in nursing homes know. What they don't know is that Ron Paul is the real deal. They believe the news that says RP is a loon. I got this info first hand a couple weeks ago from a far off state-WV. Straight from the horses mouth
Indeed my friend
Ian Snow Carpenter
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