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You guys have got to see this,I was born in Dearborn Michigan "Christians" being stoned

Go to around 9 minutes and watch for a couple of minutes

http://youtu.be/vnJBW49afzg Keep this bumped so everyone gets to watch. Update: a new bit of evidence has surfaced seems the "Christians" were baiting with a swine head on a stick. Swine is a beast singled out as bad in their religion.

http://youtu.be/r5Ld3yHduFU I personally have had many encounters with a Nashville gang called Kurdish pride. While teaching my son baseball at a local park the group hung out there. With normal mutual respect, a very good relationship developed. People are the same everywhere, They want to be safe and raise their children. Thank for your input and PEACE everyone.

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Dr. Paul would be saddend by this I believe.

Of course I fully support free speech and it wasn't put there to talk about the weather.

But it seems to me that there was some sort of Arab event which probably wasn't hurting anyone.

By going there with signs and pig-heads it obviously was meant to provoke a response.

So you reap what you sow.

As a Christian I wouldn't go prod a group having a peaceful gathering.

And as for hating Arabs just because they're Arabs, let's not forget that what our military does in the middle east does plenty of damage to relations between Christians and Muslims.

In 2008, the Arab American League invited every republican candidate for president to a breakfast and to give a speech at one of their events.

ONLY Ron Paul showed up and met with them. they really appreciated it and it showed a respect for their beliefs.

THAT is the only way we're going to coexist. Through mutual respect.

NOT by shoving pig-heads in their faces.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

The Incitement Test

The Incitement Test (Brandenburg)
"The constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

Ventura 2012

Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969)

The SC also said that the mandate was constitutional but that doesn't make it so in my eyes. The law should never be subjective.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

#1. This is not how to persuade Muslims

to become Christians.

#2. If the cops stop the Christians from this behavior in a Muslim area, then they have to stop the Klan from parading in black areas.

Warmonger "distorted view of liberty"

Submitted by kron on Thu, 06/28/2012
"If I was Seek_Truth...
...I'd be a little "ticked-off" too. Did you read what freetoroam wrote? He sounds like a warmonger. Death by stoning. That's kinda sick. Anyone who would want physical harm or death to anyone because of their religion or race surely has, at least, a distorted view of liberty!"


Its blatantly obvious. If

Its blatantly obvious. If the Arab Americans wanted to REALLY screw up these "christians" day, they should have simply completely ignored their presence and gone about with their festival as though they did not exist.

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I wonder if they would take

I wonder if they would take that same pig to a Jewish festival....nah.

Ventura 2012

I didn't think the entire story had been told--

the pig's head is repugnant.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

If there were no police in

If there were no police in our society, I suspect people would be much more polite.

Hear ye!

Liberal neighbors that do that...call the cops to babysit them or just add a little drama to their lives maybe.

Big Question: What happened when the agitators were pulled over

after the event?

Did I miss the conversation on that perspective?
Nothing was shown. Did they get a ticket of some sort, or high fives?

Not sure

The Dearborn Police asked that they leave or be cited for disturbing the Peace.

The County Sheriffs stopped them on the way out of town. I've no other information.

Free includes debt-free!

This is painful to watch


Uh... "blowback???"

Correctly, the guys did have free speech. BUT they intentionally wanted to agitate trouble as can be deduced by the fact that they admitted to talking to lawyers and such BEFORE they went to the event.

They wanted to get the crowd angry enough so that the police would defend them. Then the crowd would get angry at the police for hurting kids. The police did not bite, so the guys tried to make the cops look bad by saying the police violated their free speech and gave in to the crowd. Either way, the provocateurs win because in the end their goal is to escalate bad feeling between Christians and Muslims so there will be a build up of government. That is why the provocateurs were demanding that they be given an special escort: to show that there needed to be MORE police out on the street.

Do we want more police following us around making sure they have our backs when we want to pick fights?

Think about it.

Let me get this straight

Christians came to a non-Christian festival waving signs, being disrespectful, and disrupting the entire event and THEY are the victims here? Who's really biased? I'd have to say it's OP and whoever created these videos (the titles in it show an obvious bias).

If you're going to act like a jackass you deserve to get treated like one and IMO these "Christians" got what they wanted so don't cry about them being "mistreated." That's bullshit.

Arab American Festival.

Many are Arabs are Christian.

Free includes debt-free!

And any muslim will gladly

And any muslim will gladly talk to you about Jesus anyway, considering he's one of their prophets too.

To carry a swine head into a

To carry a swine head into a muslum festival is not something Jesus would do. I guarantee the swine head was the main cause of the riot. This group did not represent Jesus in a christian manner. I can not support what they did, sorry. I do support their right to free speech even though I disagree with them and the manner they decided to use.


I would have had my open carry with me if I was protesting or expressing my freedom of speech. Im from florida though, we have stand your ground, not too sure on michigan though.

stop facebook, https://seen.is
palestinians(Latin word) aren't arabs, they were philistines(exiled Greek island people now extinct) occupying private property Abraham bought with gold.

You sound

like someone who does not deserve to own a firearm.
You have twice here used your 2nd ammendment talk as threatening.
If you had done what you say in your 2 posts, I can assure you that you would be in the can for a while.
Please think before you go out there in the world armed and angry!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~


is never the answer and muslims were in the wrong for throwing stuff.. that being said i think the cops did the right thing, free speech is ok but not when your putting your self and others in danger, they were obviously there to antagonize, and i don't believe in pushing your religion onto others. And when i watched this earlier this week i read the description under the vid and sounded to me like these people are prejudice against muslims.

somewhat agree

however, we have freedom of religion and 1st amendment right to express whatever we want with words. anyone regardless of color, race, age, class, sex, orientation, religion etc throwing shit should be arrested. the christians acted within their american rights and the muslims throwing shit broke the law. any other stance is bias. as long as you arent being violent, assualting or battering others, you are allowed to exercise your rights including the 1st amendment. i know christians like to turn the other cheek but in this case they should have came strapped and fired shots into the air as a warning and then at the next person who threw anything like concrete or rocks. those cops are garbage. protecting private interests, the mob rule majority in this case stripped the minority of their rights. shame on those cops for not doing their damn job.

stop facebook, https://seen.is
palestinians(Latin word) aren't arabs, they were philistines(exiled Greek island people now extinct) occupying private property Abraham bought with gold.

No They Did Not

It was a Muslim festival and they had no right to come to their festival and proselytise....They were not acting in anyway Christian.
How would Jews or Christians feel if Muslims came to one of their festivals and act this way!

They look like a bunch of thugs trying to throw their weight around to me and they give Christianity a bad name.

Live and let live!

Wonder who really is behind these so called Christians and who put them up to this. Would not be the first time it was done either.

i know christians like to

i know christians like to turn the other cheek

That's a laugh.

good response


I have never before seen

such a literal example of people being 'pig headed.'

That is all.

Secularism is a disease of the mind.

It infests even the most ardent liberty lovers and clouds their judgement in such a way that makes them believe in the Jewish myth of the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man.

There got that off my chest.

It's obvious these Christians weren't interested in preaching the gospel, but, in starting a riot. Real evangelists don't go into the middle of Islamistan and bash Islam. If you're preaching to Muslims, you preach the same message you would preach to anyone else:
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but, the ends thereof, are the ways of death.
"The wages of sin is death, but, the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

"The truth is that neither British nor American imperialism was or is idealistic. It has always been driven by economic or strategic interests." - Charlie Reese

Right On

Muslims are not our problem. Zionism is.....and these so called 'Chrstans' are playing right into their hands.

Doubt if Ron Paul would approve of this type of provocation.

It had nothing to do with

It had nothing to do with religion. The issue is free speech and the constitution. Who cares what their message was. Are we allowed to protest in America, or does mob rule?

It Had NOTHING to Do With Free Speech

It had to do with provocation! Who would benefit if the Christians and Muslims started to attack each othher? Same old playbook ......and divide and conquer tactic!

Free speech at a Muslim Festival.......yeah right!