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Revolution, Change, Upheavals, REBIRTH

This is not your pappas revolution:

Second half of article:

We enter the astrological month of Gemini held in the energy of a Solar Eclipse and with Venus retrograde and preparing for a Venus Transit on June 5. These powerful events are cast upon the backdrop of what must be described as a formidable alignment between the Great Awakener, Uranus, and the Lord of Regeneration, Pluto.

Uranus and Pluto have been dancing in relationship with one another since last summer, when Uranus turned retrograde within a degree and a half of a square (a 90 degree relationship) to Pluto. These two stayed within two degrees of this square through mid September, 2011. They have come back into this relationship with one another again and will remain in close relationship to each other for the next three years.

Uranus is life force energy, undeniable and powerful. Uranus is the instinct toward life that overcomes a chick inside an egg when it begins to peck its way out of the confinement and protection of the shell. Uranus is present in the birth process of all beings as the contractions begin and the new-born being is expelled from the womb.

The energy of Uranus can be experienced as destructive. Uranus has long been associated with unpredictable events, such as earthquakes and sudden accidents. ( Uranus if the ultimate revolution creator S )

At these times, we humans must search for the gift in the disaster in order to access the new energy inherent in the archetype of Uranus. Whenever form has become rigid, Uranus appears, ready to break through whatever it is that is blocking the expression of new life.

Pluto is the Lord of the Underworld, the god of Death and Rebirth.

Out of death new life is born - life which must inevitably feed death. This is the essential story of our planet, the gears which move us forward through the eternal spiral of transformation and change and Pluto is the archetypal representation of this primal truth.

A transit between these two is always powerful, and to have them in relationship with one another for such a long time - nearly four years - is notable to say the least.

These two giants of the astrological realm are now back in close alignment with one another and will come into the first of seven exact squares on June 24.

Because of the movement of the Earth and Moon in their respective orbits, Solar and Lunar Eclipses always come in pairs and - more rarely - in threes. Sometimes the Lunar Eclipse comes first.

This time, a Solar Eclipse led the way on May 20 followed by a partial Lunar Eclipse on June 4.

Eclipses represent transition with the time between the Solar and Lunar Eclipse being a sort of birth canal as we move from one phase to the next.

Our birth - or re-entry - is particularly emphasized as Neptune, the planet most associated with imagination, intuition and illumination. Netpune turns retrograde the same day as the partial Lunar Eclipse (June 4). The next day, Venus will experience a rare astronomical event called a Venus Transit.

Venus Transits occur in pairs, once every 243 years.

This one, on June 5, is the second in the pair, the first having occurred in 2004.

Venus Transits are similar to a Solar Eclipse in that Venus will pass between the Earth and the Sun, thereby blocking a small portion of the Sun to our view. This Venus Transit, coming on the heels of the Annular Solar Eclipse on May 20 and the partial Lunar Eclipse on June 4, indicates that we are at a powerful crossroads on our journey.

A hint of the deeper meaning of this journey can be found by examining the present retrograde transit of Venus. Venus turned retrograde at the 24th degree of Gemini on May 15 and will turn direct on June 27. Mars turned retrograde at the 24th degree of Virgo in January, exactly 90 degrees apart from the point where Venus has begun her retrograde journey. Retrograde periods provide us with the opportunity to go inward and explore the deeper meaning represented by a particular archetype. The retrograde period of Mars (from January 23 through April 13) supported us in exploring the question of right action.
This retrograde period of Venus presents us with a crucial question, both for us individually as well as members of a collective - what is it that we most value and love?

Venus has long been astrologically associated with love of all types - erotic love, platonic love and friendship, the experiences of life we most value, and the healing power of feminine compassion.

Her Egyptian counterpart, Isis, is the Queen of Heaven and the Egyptian archetype of the Divine Mother.

We are entering another period of intense challenge on our planet - as described by the long lasting square between Uranus and Pluro - and this cosmic emphasis on Venus, the Divine Feminine, tells us where to focus our attention.

We must first ask ourselves this simple question - "what is it that I most love?" - and then open our hearts.

Once we feel connected to that which we love, we must open our hearts even more, and love even more.

Venus is strong and present in the energy of our planet at this time, reminding us that we are all held in the love of the Divine Feminine.


This is the revolution the Universe is scripting for us.
If we can let go of outdated beliefs in a god of dominant culture who is rooted in WAR and TRYANNY we become the midwives delivering the new Golden Age.


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

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Can you post (if you know) what the astrological allignment was

during both july 4 1776 and April 19, 1775(the first actual battle of the Revolution.)

Please state what role Valkyries play...

... in your pantheon.

Interested. Thanks!

again;search is just a clik away

Please state what role Valkyries play...

I am not here to " STATE WHAT ROLE.." ANY ENTITY PLAYS in
"my" pantheon

try baiting someone who still believes they have to respond to those who make demands for ''state what role..." or "state what I can turn into a 20 page thread of rhetoric to display my own beliefs as proving you are in idiot "

search is one clik away

FBI_Exposer Ω™

you can type in any word you wish to research into a box
and bit clik

but the u do know that but really are showing your
desperation to BAIT me



Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

I was just asking you what your beliefs are.

I wasn't baiting. Sheesh!

In Love

It seems I read somewhere on wiki that Lucifer, the light bringer, has something to do with Venus and it reminded me of this passage in the Bible:

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

I am thinking we better be careful to love what is worthy of love:

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt lovethy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

It seems to me if we were just able to love God and love people everything would be as it should be.


And that quote from Matthew agrees with the Pagan creed to love and revere all of nature and the people.

"And it harm none, do what thou will" Pagans and Christians are not so far removed from each other if you look closely at the practices.

Blessings )o(

Pagans systematically murder people...

...in a highly efficient and mechanized fashion.

Where and when ?

There are historical records for what has been done to PAGANS
over many centuries by xians . See here:

Posted by Alkman at Saturday,
August 12, 2006

The reign of the Frankish king and later,
Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne is
often viewed as one of the milestones in the establishment of European Christian civilization. In recent times, with the increasing strength of pan-European institutions in the framework of the European Union, Charlemagne is seen as an early herald of European unity. His rule is often praised as a “ Carolingian renaissance” for fostering great accomplishments in arts and learning, in partnership with the institutions of the Christian church. There are, however, other dimensions of Charlemagne’s reign which are less often discussed, because they do not fit well with the pleasing image of a wise,
benevolent monarch in whose name religion and culture flourished.
Consider Charlemagne’s war against the Saxons.

This was a series of fierce conflicts from 772 to 804, for some 32 years, with numerous treaties and truces that inevitably gave way to further battle. In the biography of Charlemagne produced by the court official Einhard in about the year 830,it is stated that the war was undertaken by Charlemagne to put an end to the incessant raiding and other misdeeds of the Saxons on the borderlands of the Frankish kingdom. Einhard would therefore have us believe that
this was a purely defensive war, but it is obvious that Charlemagne had territorial ambitions that were far more imperial than defensive.

Einhard also informs us that Charlemagne was dead set on the conversion of the Saxons to Christianity.

He notes at one point that “ the war could have been brought to a more rapid conclusion, had it not been for the faithlessness of the Saxons.” According to Einhard, the Saxons’ continuing refusal to fully accept the Christian religion and, in Einhard’s phrase, “ abandon their devil worship,” was the main factor prolonging the state of war. From Einhard’s Christian-privileging perspective, the Saxons were stubborn, deceitful infidels, whose unchristian ways fully justified the use of massive force against them.

However, if we consider the situation from the point of view of the Pagan Saxons, it takes on a quite different aspect. From this perspective, the Franks, and especially their king Charles, were warrior-fanatics with a relentless desire to impose their religion on the Saxons.

Whatever else might be said against the Saxons, there is no indication that they were trying to force their religion on the Franks.

If we take seriously that the Saxons had their own religious traditions which they were trying to preserve from the Frankish onslaught, then their sustained refusal to accept a foreign religion being imposed on them by force takes on a very different aspect from that suggested by Einhard.

It is not stubbornness or deceit, but steadfast piety and the willingness to give their lives to defend their own faith.

From the Pagan perspective, there is also reason to be skeptical of Einhard’s insistence that the Franks’ war against the Saxons was merely a necessary response to Saxon banditry and raiding.
Though this was an age rife with such behavior, there are other factors to consider. Long before the onset of Charlemagne’s campaigns against the Saxons, Christian missionaries had become active in the lands of the Saxons and other Germanic peoples.

When gentle methods such as preaching and reasoning failed to convince Germanic Pagans to abandon their ancestral traditions, these missionaries often resorted to more forceful methods. The Anglo-Saxon missionary Boniface chopped down a sacred oak tree in the village of Geimar, in the region of Hessia, in order to demonstrate the superiority of the Christian god to the Pagan god associated with the oak.

That was our IRMUNSUL. Like the torah scrolls to a synagogue!

After this act of destruction, Boniface confiscated the wood from the fallen sacred oak to use in building Christian churches, as if to add insult to injury.

Such desecration and destruction of Pagan sacred sites and objects became an accepted missionary practice in this period, one which Charlemagne himself used to inaugurate his hostilities against the Saxons.

This happened in 872, when Charlemagne’s army invaded a Saxon town on the river Drimel and hacked to pieces a sacred wooden pillar, apparently a decorated tree-trunk, known as the Irminsul, which was highly venerated in the religious observances of the Saxons as a representation of the worldtree. 8

With this attack on one of the holiest Saxons sites, Charlemagne left no doubt as to his intention to use military force to obliterate the Saxons’ religion, as well as to conquer
their lands.

Charlemagne’s destruction of the world-tree proved to be an apt metaphor for his wholesale devastation of Saxon people, property, society and culture over the next 32 years.

This attack on highly sacred sites and objects must have aroused the most powerful feelings of shock and outrage among the Saxons and possibly other Pagan peoples as well, perhaps not unlike the recent attack on the World Trade Center in New York.

Christian sources such as saints’ lives and missionary correspondence routinely claim that such acts of destruction were highly successful in gaining converts to Christianity.

This supposed success is explained with rather curious logic. The missionaries believed that their ability to destroy Pagan objects without incurring the wrath of the Pagan deities proved the nonexistence of the Pagan gods and, by extension, the total absurdity of the religion.

These authors never ask themselves whether the same might not apply to their own religion, that is, if the merits of the Christian faith would be disproven by God’s refusal to forcefully respond to the burning down of a church or the cutting in half of a crucifix.

At any rate, the same sources which boast of missionary successes through such acts of religious terrorism as the Irminsul destruction cannot hide the facts of massive retaliation by the Saxons and other peoples when their sacred traditions were threatened by Christian attacks.

The Saxons repeatedly attacked and burned Christian churches;often carrying off their treasures in much the same way as Boniface had carted away the wood from the sacred oak at Geismar.

In a letter of 755 to Pope Stephen III, Boniface apologizes for a delay in writing because he has been busy restoring 30 churches plundered and burned by Pagan rebels.

Above all, the bare fact that Charlemagne’s destruction of the Irminsul ushered in thirty-odd years of warfare before the Saxons would surrender to Charlemagne and accept the religion of the Franks underlines that such actions were as likely to incite resistance as win converts.

Although one would expect 32 years of war and destruction to produce an abundance of violence and bloodshed, there is one particular action of Charlemagne’s which stands out for its excessive cruelty.

On one horrific day in 782, Charlemagne had more than 4,000 Saxons beheaded for rebelling against Frankish rule and resuming the practice of their traditional Pagan religion, after having previously signed a treaty agreeing to accept Christianity and Frankish domination.

Such harsh measures did not end with the final surrender of the Saxons in 804.
Charlemagne imposed stringent conditions of surrender upon the Saxons that prescribed capital punishment for a wide range of offenses, including many which were religious in nature.

Anyone who stole from a church, ate meat during the Christian fast of Lent,remained a Pagan and refused to undergo baptism, or engaged in a conspiracy of Pagans against Christians was to receive the death penalty. At the same time, Saxons were required to provide labor, food and other support to churches and priests.

Looking at this from the Christian point of view, there is some discomfort at the harshness of the measures employed by Charlemagne, but there is no doubt about the rightness of his ultimate goal, the Christianization of the Saxons as part of the larger project of uniting Europe in a Christian empire.

Charlemagne’s cruelty and intolerance in the war against the Saxons have never detracted from his popular image as a wise and benevolent sovereign. Such actions also appear to cause no concern to those people in the present day who see Charlemagne as an attractive symbol of European unity.

If we take the Pagan point of view, however,Charlemagne appears to be the exemplar of nothing so much as religious intolerance, persecution and imperialism, the forefather not of European unity, but of some of the most problematic and shameful tendencies in European history.

Charlemagne’s war against the Saxons set the tone for such highpoints of European civilization as the Crusades and the Inquisition, and paved the way for the religious wars, persecutions and pogroms of the future.

From the Pagan point of view, we can ask what might have happened if
Charlemagne had chosen a different path.

What if he had pursued a policy of religious tolerance instead of religious persecution?

What if he had offered the Saxons the option to join his empire without giving up their ancestral traditions?

Perhaps 32 years of war could have been avoided, and the stage set for a European civilization of tolerance and pluralism, rather than one of intolerance and fanaticism.

If Charlemagne had chosen a different path, perhaps he really would be an appropriate hero and symbol for our time.

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Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.


How so? And please cite your source for that statement. Thanks.

Blessings )o(


The Aztecs
The Mayans
The Thule Society


They did sacrifice human beings. However, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions are equally as guilty of practicing wide scale death. Many were intentionally killed during the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Conquest of the Americas, and currently in the Middle East. What I see is a common characteristic that belongs to all Men of killing those they don't agree with in the name of their respective Gods. This urge to kill or rather to extinguish lives that don't fit our own paradigm is one of the greatest flaws in Mankind, IMO. Its a flaw that all religions need to address and remedy.

Blessings )o(

This is true

It was not in bold because ot was not the point of the original post, however, it did say of Charlemain: "this was a purely defensive war".

An attorney once explained something to me by showing me a picture of a baby deer grazing. He asked, "What do you see?" I said, "Bambi". Then he asked, "What if your Bambi was eating your crops, all your food for your family? What would you see?"

The fact is, pagan life was,"each man for himself", and because they did not work with each other to build, but only to sustain, they did rob from those who had planted crops, took their children, and committed human sacrifice. Many Saints, especially Quadelupe, is credited with stopping human sacrifice.

pagan life was,"each man for himself",

thanks for this clear display that you know naught of
Pagan Life in Europe

The Euro system was built of TRIBES and co operation or the could not have survived and built great cities and traded across the

Before you make such statements about Pagans you need to get up to speed on what the various Tribes were really like and how they worked together and built treaties and trade among themselves

Why not address what the xians have done to all aboriginal people all over the world? mmm? on every continent.


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Tribes, that were still, "Each man for himself"

Did you know that women picked the Cheif? Tribal councils are not corporate, and it's not about being on a team. In some tribes, your birthday gave you your job for life, in others, you were subject to what the Shaman prescribed, who had council for individuals, not "the tribe".

My Father taught me how to hunt, fish, repel, climb, walk, swim and learn to talk to nature, to learn how to listen to the elements and communicate with animals, and that life is survival of the fitest, and animals serve us by choice, including when we eat them. We ate allot of meat when I was growing up, as vegetables were for lesser beings and blood was what enriched life, gave us life.

He also taught me how to fight, because fighting for your life was an everyday thing, and perhaps why he and so many Native Americans LOVE the military and are so good at it.

Peace is for death and death is rebirth.

Great description ...

for how Pagan philosophy plays out in this 'modern' world

what a great father you have enjoyed and wonderful growing up learning NATURE up close.

Thanks for your post The Granger .


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

where is youre source

other than xian scribes or missionaries


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

This was asked of FBI exposer

sorry for any confusion

what the religious know of Pagans which vary like the rainbow
across history is ONLY what those owned scribes were told to write for posterity

any and all views of Pagans were obliberated by those missionaries for christ

so the CONQUERORS re wrote all our history as they are still doing in lands across this globe

their payday will be horrendous

life is like a boomerang

A Universal Law no mans RELIGION can change.

Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Traveling and going to museums for one

Having a Pagan Father who taught me about his Native American heritage, and had great appreciation for all Pagan/ Tribal peoples, and was the one who took me to the museums, to teach me about Greek, Celtic, and other Pagan religions besides his own spiritual beliefs. And my own interest in Scott Cunningham, Susan Weed, WICCA, Isis, Goddess worship, and "Pseudo Sciences".

When I was a baby, my Father was on a tour of duty, one of many in his lifer carreer in the USN, my Mother had me baptised as a Catholic (She was not Catholic, her sister in law conveinced her it was the right thing to do for me, and I was severly punished for that by him, as he loathed organized religion. While I have much to apprecaite from him, his hatred for Christianity prevented me from exploring it openly. After he died, I went into the Catholic Church to see what my bapitism was all about.

"Catholic" means Universal, and I found the, "Catechism of The Catholic Church", one of the most profound books I have ever read. I was confirmed a Catholic just over a year ago after a year of Rites Inniation Catholic Adults, and I Adore it. It is the most satisfying religious and spiritual experience I have ever had. I especially enjoy hearing and learning about people from all over the world who became Catholics. The USA is not a Catholic Nation, and while Catholics are Christians, Christians are not Catholic. Catholicism is universal because it makes Saints as laisions to Pagan heros. It very interesting and beautiful.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriae

For the Greater Glory of God, my brother!

Praise be Glory to God

Hosanna in the highest! My Sister! (or is that me? Sister I am. and brother art thou?)

This is true


not all were Pagan

communists are not and never were Pagan duh !

Myans and Aztecs had nothing to do with Euro Pagan Tribes
Their ancestry was cannibalistic

and the THULE Society never committed any slaughters
anywhere, anytime

if you THINK so please post your source


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Wannsee Konferenz.

Please state which members of that Conference were not members of Thule.


It is YOUR claim so its up to you to prove


The question is where did you find a source to say the Thule
Society murdered people ?

Prove who was a member of Thule at Wansee.

Prove any Thule Memebers ever did slaughters.

dont make claims then tell others to prove them for you


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.