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Individual Mandate declared UN Constitutional

CH John Roberts has handed down the opinion

looking for a news link


watching news to see if any other arts have been struckdown


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

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re: your tag line..

Tolerance is the virture of a man with no convictions

A patriot must always be prepared to defend his country from his government.

If it bothers you try digesting this ...

IF you can move past your HATE and Fear long enough

free.king wrote:
" Tolerance is the virture of a man with no convictions "

here is the Pagan view of learning to live in a multifacted
NOT multi culti world

To achieve tolerance is to find grace

To cultivate TOLERANCE one must sit quietly an go within
and feel for what is stashed there that causes reactive emotions

face them and let them go

over and over all thru life

as this process goes on time comes when meeting
people from various backgrounds and belief systems
is NO LONGER FRIGHTENING and no longer causes
gut wrenching rejection of those who are not
cookie cutter copies of ones own person

to be INTOLERANT cuts one off from many wonderful
friendships and interactions with bright and creative people
who exhibit a new slant on our long held views

we go away with a more open mind and heart and
it begins to shine on all our endeavors
encouraging us to become more TOLERANT
and more connected to the Universal Web

sad that you are frightened by my siggie
but your fears are noting in my life

perhaps my siggie is a wake up call to you
and THATS why it sacres you so you have to try
to use it to insult me
others have done that here, :D

your insults are meaningless in my life ,

get it?

since my siggie is scary for you when you see
a post by me please try to avoid it so you
dont have to see my signature

just a sop on the way to the day when you
will begin to LEARN TOLERANCE.

A Pagan is working on the life long project to become
Self actualized, accepting that ones Self is made up of all others that ever were or are now or ever will be , while allwoing ones self to be uniquely constructed to bring its own talents, ideas, creativity, TOLERANCE to all others. grinnnn....

pretty big order for ones life path leaving NO space for rigid dogmas that constrict ones SPIRITUAL growth.


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Obama sat on Robert's face. Roberts always looked all

mushy and helpless when Obama was around. Pussy.


:D mushy and helpless

maybe Roberts was a guest in the Chicago Bath House where
bammaO and Rahm reigned supreme in their own private COURT??


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Who gives a crap what these traitors think?

I won't be paying any attention to any of their idiotic ivory tower edicts anyway.

And if they send somebody over to force me, I hope that HE has insurance, because he's damn well going to need it.

We should have never

We should have never overthrown the Articles of Confederation.


To that!


Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine

Judge Andy said its supported

had a email news flash that it had been defeated

but I believe the Judge

it is making the mandate upheld as a tax

Seems Roberts went over to the libs here

Medicaid expansion is struck down
as a broader program of the fed

Rove stated this is a big win for the presi dent
I cant write president when referring to the bammaO
hurts my gut too much :D

no Repubs and 34 Dems voted against it
because they stuck WITH the people this time


as usual with legal matters
"the devil is in the details"
so we have to watch and read
what those details are

Judge Andy made some fine points but we need as he says a thourough analysis of the whole

Kennedy has stated " the act is illegal in its entierity"

what a mess
how much can be reviewed by new challenge to the SC?

bammaO is crowing and toking

I have to go to the garden to ally the nausea
Roberts is a wuss


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

"Kate Bolduan reports that

"Kate Bolduan reports that the Chief Justice John Roberts issued a long opinion in which he said the controversial individual mandate may be upheld and is within Congress’ power under the taxing clause rather than the commerce clause."

Okay, seriously, what the fuck has this country come to.

watch this hand ...

..while I pick your pocket with the OTHER hand

confusion and consternation so the people scatter to try to vet whats real and what can destroy them so they are not paying attention to the global war gathering energy on the horizon

Look for a quote from Schweikert of Az

when i find it I will post it here


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

constitutional my ass.

I guess we'll all now be forced buy govt owned GM cars as a 'tax' now too. This is complete bullshit. Goodbye America.

Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.


In a nutshell, TAXES ARE

In a nutshell, TAXES ARE GOING UP.

They can't uphold part of the

They can't uphold part of the law or uphold it and say x,y,z needs to be changed. It is either to be upheld or struck down.

"Dewey Defeats Truman"

And another "day that will live in infamy" in Amerika (sic)!

Join a well-regulated militia today.


"The problem is not those in power, the problem is right between your ears." ~Larken Rose


Dewey won but the votes were jiggled...

That was one of the early conspiracies I witnessed as a teen
Common talk said 'the dead votes got recounted twice'

I asked what that means and was told it means another election went down to fraud

my disillusionment started early in life, sigggghh

Thanks for that link
sending to my email list
bet a few already know it, :D


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Okay so

the individual mandate portion has been struck down. The rest of Obamacare has been upheld.

"Supreme Court strikes down individual mandate portion of health care law. on.cnn.com/LvVRcK"

found the article

hereis link:http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/28/how-will-supreme-court-rule-on-health-care-law/


the GOOD NEWS here is that bammaO has shot his toes off

after this he cannot win reelection

STATES will work individually and in unity to defeat him

Updated at 10:39 a.m. ET] Swift reaction coming from the Republican National Committee and GOP members:

Saying the high court had set “the stakes for the November election,” Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the only way to defeat what the RNC calls “Obamacare” is to elect a new president.

Priebus describes the Affordable Healthcare Act as a “budget-busting government takeover” and says up to 20 million Americans could lose their employer-funded coverage as a result of the act.

“A panel of unelected bureaucrats now has the unprecedented authority to come between elderly patients and their doctors. Meanwhile, the rules and regulations placed on job creators and small businesses make it nearly impossible to hire new workers at a time when Americans desperately need jobs,” Priebus wrote.

The fight for #FullRepeal begins NOW. The way to get rid of #Obamacare is to defeat Obama in November.

RNC (@GOP) June 28, 2012

[Updated at 10:38 a.m. ET] Physicians for a National Health Program responded critically to the Supreme Court’s decision, saying that the ruling did not amount to universal coverage, 26 million people will remain uninsured, it keeps in place high co-pays and gaps in coverage and it will not control costs.

“Why is this so? Because the ACA perpetuates a dominant role for the private insurance industry. Each year, that industry siphons off hundreds of billions of health care dollars for overhead, profit and the paperwork it demands from doctors and hospitals; it denies care in order to increase insurers’ bottom line; and it obstructs any serious effort to control costs,” the group’s statement said.

It said a “single-payer, improved-Medicare-for-all system” would remedy these problems, including the issue of cost. Ideally, the group said, such a system would pay “all medical bills, streamlines administration, and reins in costs for medications and other supplies through its bargaining clout.”

[Updated at 10:34 a.m. ET] Here are the big main points out of the ruling:

Court rules 5-4 to uphold individual mandate
Court says the requirement to have insurance is a tax, and is constitutional.
Court says on Medicaid that the federal government may not take Medicaid from states that refuse to take part. (That is a limited ruling, without striking it down. In the ruling the court offered the government a way to remedy this potential problem.)
Court vindicates, affirms Presidential and congressional power in an important issue like health care.

What this means to you

[Updated at 10:31 a.m. ET] A senior administration official tells CNN that President Barack Obama will speak within a couple of hours.

[Updated at 10:29 a.m. ET] House minority leader Nancy Pelosi has reacted to the ruling:

Victory for the American people! Millions of American families and children will have certainty of health care benefits + affordable care.

Nancy Pelosi (@NancyPelosi) June 28, 2012

[Updated at 10:28 a.m. ET] In its 5-4 decision to uphold the U.S. health care law, the Supreme Court answered several key questions:

Question: Can the court decide the constitutionality of health care now, or does it have to wait a few years?

To answer, the court had to decide whether a penalty the law imposes on people who do not have health insurance amounts to a tax.

A previously obscure law mandated that the legality of a tax cannot be challenged until it is imposed, and the health care law doesn't call for penalties until 2014.

The court's answer: The court upheld the entire law.

Question: Is the requirement that people have health insurance - the so-called individual mandate - constitutional?

The court's answer: Chief Justice John Roberts wrote that the commerce clause did not apply, but the mandate stands under the taxing clause.

Question: If the individual mandate is unconstitutional, can the rest of the law stand, or is the whole thing unconstitutional?

The court's answer: The mandate is constitutional, rendering moot further questions on the rest of the law.

Question: Can the federal government force states to expand their share of Medicaid costs and administration?

The court's answer: Yes, but the justices ruled that the federal government cannot remove existing Medicaid funding if the states choose not to participate in the new program.


[Updated at 10:26 a.m. ET] Because the individual mandate has been upheld, and is essentially the funding behind everything else, this can be seen in large part as a major victory for President Obama, CNN Supreme Court Producer Bill Mears said.

Chief Justice John Roberts was the swing vote in the decision, Kate Bolduan reports, joining Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.

These are the most radical marxists on SCOTUS !


we KNOW how long that can take.


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

It seems individuals can

It seems individuals can simply choose to NOT comply with the mandate... then someone please tell me how it is still a mandate? Mandate means mandatory, in other words, it must be followed.

Now wonder these assclowns are fleeing for vacation until October!

individuals can simply choose to NOT comply

Ah yes, BUT

anyone who chooses not to meet the demand is a criminal and under the control of one or more of the fed agencies like HHS

there IS criminal liability if one doesnt toe the line


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Roberts went LEFT


If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

All the live blogs I'm

All the live blogs I'm following have said the mandate is constitutional..

Give ear to my prayer, O God...


beat me to it by a minute, just posted. haha

What are you taling about?

They upheld the darn thing!

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Not so fast

There is more to it. It will become a tax. Big win for Oblahblah.