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Napolitano: Obamacare Ruling Will Drive Libertarians To Romney - Has the Judge lost his mind?

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, June 29, 2012

Judge Andrew Napolitano told Fox News that small government libertarians who have so far refused to throw their support behind Mitt Romney will now do so as a result of yesterday’s Supreme Court decision to uphold Obamacare.

http://www.infowars.com/napolitano-obamacare-ruling-will-dri...

What's your opinion DP?




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No, if Romney is elected your

No, if Romney is elected your prediction is accurate.

And the GOP cheerleaders will be doing fist pumps for the Romulan rolling back Obamacare even though the rollback will be essentially inconsequential.

This is how it always works. The progressives push authoritarian fedgov into new areas. When they overreach and the GOP gains control, the GOP rolls it back slightly, but never meaningfully. The GOP cheerleaders pound their chests. The progressives then retrench, and plan their next moves.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

That is probably the most likely outcome

if Romney get in office.

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So your prediction

is Romney will be the President!!

The only challenge I will give is

that once McCain gets involved (or whoever all else) We The People will get penalized much more. Mainly, you are right on point though in my view.

As a side note, I hope I am wrong, but Napolitano seems to be doing alot of placating with "The Libertarian View". So far I think most of us Libertarians are not impressed enough with anything that happens at this point to vote for the jackass that approved the ACA for Mass. before Obama ever was even a potential POTUS candidate. Free thinkers do not operate that way.

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Not this guy...

Not this guy...

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The Judge is probably

The Judge is probably correct, as he often is. And what he says makes sense. Unless Ron somehow magically gets the nomination, or some third party polls meaningfully high in someone's state, treating the election as a single issue referendum on Obamacare is not really that bad a thing. Anyone championing that kind of an affront to humanity really ought to be kicked out of office (and, honestly, off the planet if that was possible). Romney is probably just as bad, but at least he hasn't to the same degree proven it beyond all reasonable doubt.

Tactically, with Romney (or any GOP president elected on the back of anti-Obamacare fervor), will make it easier to throw as much sand in the wheels of actually implementing Obamacare as possible, even if actual repeal is impossible. Congress, with the president's approval, could defund all they can that makes Obamacare possibly, including refusing to appropriate funds to hire anyone to enforce the "mandate", which is really the worst part of the legislation. Chances are Romney won't go that far, since the personal shame being called an obstrauctionist by someone in some self important newspaper, counts for more than the lives and livelyhoods of millions of Americans to him, but at least he can be counted on to go further than Obama.

Anyway, voting for him if it realistically comes down to him or Obama is one thing; supporting him i any other way should be completely off the table for anyone with any pretense of being an even remotely decent and concerned human being. And that means in ANY other way. Compared to either Obama or Romney, the so called "terrorists" are, by quite a margin, perfectly good and decent people. And noone should ever forget that truism.

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Never!

This law is recommended by the same people who started the Romneycare, and is upheld by the judge nominated by Bush and Republicans. So, how is voting for Romney going to change anything? I will still be a slave and get whipped. But, the "good" news is that the whip is going to be wooden paddle?!

I love the Judge but

Romney's statement yesterday was repeal and replace. How can anyone trust a guy that is the father of the Obamacare, and to replace it with what?

I can't vote for Obamney!

+1. The replacement would be

+1. The replacement would be a massive intrusion (yet sold as "smaller than Obamacare") into peoples' lives. #Same2012

The Judge...

...is actually right. Many libertarians will view this breach of federal power as too great a threat to risk four more years of an Obama presidency. Some of you may not like it, but the Judge is correct.

I'd also like to ask a question...

...suppose we don't pull out a miracle of some kind and elect Gary Johnson or Dr. Paul. Say it really is down to the two clowns: Romney and Obama. Who do you guys want, and why? I'm expecting a lot of "I refuse to choose between the two clones," but even if you wouldn't vote for either of them, who would you PREFER. Think of it as an "F", marry, kill scenario.

Romney

It empowers me to establish Ron Paul principles on my Central Committee as the neos will work with me.

Well honestly, i'd prefer

Well honestly, i'd prefer Obama over Romney for the SIMPLE fact that it's 4 more years of Obama or possibly 8 years of Romney.

Just shows that everybody has

Just shows that everybody has a price.

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hmm

I have yet to meet someone who will vote for Romney.

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Me

It's not that I like Romney, I don't. It's that it's better for me being on a Central Committee having a Republican in office than Obama. CA is SO Democratic, we are a police state, these laws are coming down hard and fast. With Romney, those of us on central committees have some power to push for Ron Paul's issues, with Obama.. I we're going to be attacked from the Democrats and the Neocons. I'm not Ron Paul, nor are any of us who got on a committee to HELP Ron Paul, what will we have to survive? Libertarians have NO power, so they aren't any good to or for us either. What we need are more seated Ron Paul Republicans.

Libertarians have NO power...

Sister in Liberty.

Libertarians have NO power because folks like you continue to go with the flow -- this will stop this summer.

Gary Johnson will become bigger than Ross Perot ever was.
Mark my words.

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Brother in Liberty

From 1976 to 1993 I was a Libertarian. It got me NO WHERE. Did we make cannabis LEGAL? We tried and tried and tried and tried, proposition after measure,, and every one BOTH major parties, with their power ruined all our efforts.

From 1993 to 2011 I was Decline to State Party and worked with Libertarians and got Law Suits.

Now I'm GOP because Ron Paul said GET ON A CENTRAL COMMITTEE. I did. Now I have power to vet Ron Paul issues and candidates and you want me to abandon that for what?

Nothing or Law Suits.

Why do you think Ron Paul left the LP, but Republicans like Bob Barr, who doesn't have a Libertarian bone in his body, got in?

Have you been to a meeting? Controlled by the GOP.

BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

So now that those of us followed Ron Paul in, we got power, why take it away?

What happened to the good fight? It's in the EMPTY GOP.. We can take this party over run by former Democrats and you won't becase of what MSM says? Not what I say. Not what Ron Paul did. But because MSM says GOP is whatever... MSM doesn't talk about Ron Paul or the folks like me. It's a perfect opportunity, but don't listen to me, don't follow Ron... abandon GOP ship MSM said whatever and once again, go to meetings sabotaged by Republicans and get Law Suits or NOTHING?

Huh?

my friend

You talk about past.

Future is in our hands.
Our hands my friend.

I refuse to support evil.

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I'm just not getting through

It's not about supporting evil. It's about gaining the opportunity to affect change.

you must not associate with

you must not associate with the elderly.

Being elderly, I do know many.

However, I only know 2 who back the neocons and will vote for Romney, whatever he is.

no offense, but i hope you

no offense, but i hope you can see where i was coming from with my comment.

stereotypes are usually true, unfortunately.

No offense taken.

In my experience, and only in my experience, the worst ones to get through to are the mid 30s to mid 50s crowd. Not that they like Mittens, but they don't like Ron Paul, either. We used to refer to many of those people as the "me first generation".

Some may, but anyone "fleeing

Some may, but anyone "fleeing Obamacare" by flocking to Romney would be delusional. He wouldn't have the number of Republicans needed to support repeal and he can't do it on his own, so it really doesn't matter who is president now.

WTF

First Rand, then Jack, now the Judge. Looks like civil disobedience is all that's left... until the parasites come to collect, when that time comes I'll be meeting force with force.

Well, I have yet to see where

Well, I have yet to see where the Judge said "Libertarians". He mentions small government Conservatives. What I hate about this article is it implies he said that by what's in the title.

Ah. I hate to break it,

Ah. I hate to break it, although I have zero reason to trust Romney at all, I do believe he'll do what's politically convenient, and that's repealing Obamacare. So sadly, I will probably strike one up for him. Begin hate now

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Roberts Flipped his vote: Originally was "The Ginsburg Dissent?"

6/28/2012 @ 2:55PM |4,427 views
Did Justice Roberts Change His Obamacare Vote At The Eleventh Hour?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/06/28/did-justice...

There is an odd anomaly found in Justice Scalia’s dissenting opinion in today’s Obamacare decision.

When referencing the opinion of Justice Ginsburg—who wrote the opinion on behalf of herself and the remaining three liberals on the Court—Scalia refers to Ginsburg’s opinion as the ‘dissent’. This raises the specter that, at the time Scalia wrote his opinion, Justice Ginsburg may have actually been in the minority rather than a part of the ultimate majority which upheld the law.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/06/28/did-justice...

Sen. Mike Lee: There are “signals” that Roberts changed his Obamacare vote
June 29, 2012
http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-mike-lee-there-are-signal...

My opinion is

that it won't drive ME to voting for the designer of Romneycare/Obamacare, who is on record for supporting the individual mandate.

I'd consider that to be ludicrous indeed.
But I have no idea what other people might do.