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Is Gold the false God of our movement?

Are we wrong about gold? Here is a scary perspective. http://freemarketpatrick.blogspot.com/2012/06/gold-false-god...



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What's your motive?

Our False God? What are you talking about?

Are you attempting to paint us as evil money loving gold worshipers, or perhaps this is about YOU having no God and looking for something to worship? Are you worried that you're starting to worship money?

The love of money(gold/silver/rice/finely tailored suits) is the root of all evil, but the hate for money is NOT the root of all good.

Like most things, it boils down to mans covetous nature being the root of all evil.

Terrible article

Writer has no concept of what is real money. The frequent "logic" of comparing gold to dollars instead of other real commodities is proof of that.

Food is good, but isnt easy to carry.

There are still TONS of pre 33 US gold out there, the confiscation confiscated little, just drove gold into hiding and a black market. Won't be any different if it happens again.

We don't care if it's gold,

We don't care if it's gold, silver, beads, seashells or yak dung, as long as it's the currency that emerges from the individual choices of market participants. History shows that people always decide to use gold, so that's why we mention it by name rather than saying "commodity money" or "natural money".

Wampum stick

Is fine with me. USURY is the problem, extorted theft called tax. Compounding debt issue. Fractional reserve. All euphemisms for theft.

A thief is a liar and often becomes a murder.

If not stopped a thief will return and keep robbing you until you have nothing of value then will take you life.
Governments are puppet thieves for bankers who slave for the ultimate thief and murders the owners of the central bank corporations.
I do agree with you.

sovereign

Misusing the Word GOD.

Misusing the Word GOD : - Religion, War and Bigotry in the Age of Globalization, - by Richard Cook, http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24688

very informative, worth reading, one page.

No

nm

Long before the government

Long before the government confiscates your gold it will confiscate nearly all of your savings in fiat currency. Don't be shocked to see government mandates requiring that your 401k or IRA go into buying treasury bills, when no one else wants to buy them.

Diversity is the answer. This article doesn't take that...

...into consideration.

And it assumes gold prices are the highest they'll ever be.

How in the world can the writer know that?

Gold seemed expensive at $300.00/oz a few years ago.

Now that price seems incredibly cheap.

Gold at 1600.00/oz might seem dirt cheap in several years.

We can't know.

You just have to buy it to diversify your ownings.

Of course it would be stupid to put all your money into metals. Just as it would be to put it all into any one thing.

At this price I can't afford much of it and I have to buy it in small increments.

But I don't think I'll ever regret gatting some - even if it drops big-time in the short term.

It seems like that article suggests not owning ANY precious metals.

I don't get that at all.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

If gold is the false god,

If gold is the false god, then why do all the central banks hold so much gold and not any canned goods?

You answered your own questions

The banks seem to believe in false gods.

sovereign

weak article

rambling piece with no sound conclusions

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

No, the false god of the

No, the false god of the movement is too much listening to false prophets. If you invest in gold just because you read somewhere you should.. then it's probably not a smart investment for you. It's probably smarter for you not to invest at all.

If you want to inflate a bubble (and then pop it, why else?) the first and most crucial ingredient is a gullible public with easy money on their mind.

To my mind, there are a little too many shifty looking sites where first they predict financial doom, play up the consequences (back to the dark ages) before urging you to buy gold, especially from them or their 'associates'. That's what guys like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are really after... the more scared you get the more crappy stuff you buy and the less you do your critical thinking. That's basically a less sophisticated form of what the government does to get support for their wars and what it creates is a completely deranged culture of fear that has nothing to do, at all, with the real world anymore.

So unless you understand market dynamics, stay out of it. If you want to help yourself, and the world around you: start a business, provide a useful service or an excellent product and create jobs for your community.

5000 years.

You all keep pointing out that gold has been money for 5000 years, but you keep ignoring that governments have been stealing their citizens gold for 5000 years. We are talking about a safety net here. Why do you all keep promoting a safety net which is the first thing the government is likely to confiscate?
When we live in a world in which half the population thinks it's okay for the government to take your money for the "greater good", why would your safety net be any form of money?

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

I take it that when the

I take it that when the government would come to take your gold you would lie like a dog with your tail between your legs and give it to them. This thread is a bullshit thread. Your agenda is obvious.

The Government Is Prob More Likely To Confiscate 401Ks

And to raid safety deposit boxes. Plus they're likely to have bank holidays. That's what goes on in other countries that have massive debt issues (e.g. Argentina, Greece). I think investments in gold (e.g. gold mining companies) were okay even back in the 1930's.

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Many people did Not turn in their gold in 1933.

We are not all sheeple, mindless, brain-dead, zombies.

Also, No self-bumping allowed. Just a friendly reminder to obey the Daily Paul rules.

No But Christianity is the False Dogma of the movement

for people like you.

Enough with these crap postings.

The sooner people wake up to the fact that Religion directly benefits the PTB, we will succeed.

Until then the masses will be subdued into think that "god " is in control and that the "evil people" will be punished after they die and the poor will live in ever lasting "heaven".

Not sure what you're talking about.

I'm atheist.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

im not an athiest, but

if you are curious about something just ask. otherwise say something of substance rather just make a drive by comment.

"People like you" should

"People like you" should "wake up" and quit "these crap postings" and just see that "christianity is the false dogma" which only enslaves us and perpetuates the powers that be... I believe that was the nature of your post and snake had trouble understanding what you were talking about.

I think snake was saying that your post was "a drive by comment" "lacking substance," hoping you might explain. the athiest coment was probably so you would not think you were being dragged down by a religious fundamentalist.

I see your comment as being very exclusitory. I wonder if your goal is really to awaken christians from their 'false dogma' or to simply make yourself feel good or perhaps to discourage christians as being asleep and unknowingly supporting the ptb.

Humility is vital to the revolution. You dont wake people up by calling their ideas crap, thats how you make enemies and start a flame war on the internet.

are you kidding?

grow up

Wearing God's blessings sometimes draws jealousy out in people.

jealousy - hostility toward one believed to enjoy an advantage

When you look closely at the word jealousy, something stands out. The feeling of jealousy makes you feel lousy!

For some reason, people tend to have an ingrained attitude that they are entitled to things. For example, children leaving the nest for the first time sometimes believe their own standard of living should be the same as their parents. They don't consider that their parents have worked for years and years. The same is true for someone who doesn't understand the work that goes into the building of one's faith. What they don't understand yet is that sometimes God leads us away from the fire, but sometimes He leads us through it. God sometimes leads people through a season of preparation and testing.

Read Psalm 46: 1.

God does not look upon trouble as we do. Where we see stress He sees opportunities. Where we see crisis, He sees growth and betterment. God's purpose in times of crisis and trouble is to teach His children precious lessons. They are intended to educate, and build us up. And when we learn from them and ride out these storms of life, we will see the great promise fulfilled. His glorious recompense will come to us throughout eternity. We need to see the joy and opportunities through times of problems. Because we will learn that there is a sweet and wonderful joy we can have here, too! We do not have to wait until Heaven. We can learn to make our life joy filled by seizing the crisis and growing from it. To become the person that we are capable of being for our benefit and His glory. When the trial is over we can look back and see that our trials have been necessary. We are better, He is glorified!

http://www.discipleshiptools.org/apps/articles/default.asp?a...

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"Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you stand alone."
~ Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."
~ Ron Paul
"You must be the change you want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Im no Child

and neither are you. And BTW

...what makes you think ANYONE is jealous of your religious shackles?

Faith is the antidote to fear.

When you walk with God, you don't need much gold or silver; whatever you need will come to you. Really.
Matthew 06:27
And who of you by worrying and being anxious can add one unit of measure to his stature or to the span of his life? God made us as He designed, do not be anxious about life, but be content and trust in Him to provide for your needs.
The 23rd Psalm
The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.

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"Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you stand alone."
~ Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."
~ Ron Paul
"You must be the change you want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

I don't think.....

....that the God part of this article was really a key point.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

We Need Free Thinkers!! Not People Blinded By Faith

It's people's "faith" in Government, False Religions, and the Current System that's the Problem!

We Need Less "Faith" and more THOUGHT!!

We ?

Who is we, you got a mouse in your pocket?

sovereign

The Founding Fathers were Christians

And their biblical faith in God was one thing that inspired their revolution and led them to set up our government in the way that they did. They were extremely critical of the secular aspects of the Enlightenment.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

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Many of the Founding Fathers had a Deistic view.

"These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe."
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html