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Ron Paul: We "ought to pursue" Lawsuit

Ron Paul's statements for pursuing litigation against fraud & cheating:


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"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

It's funny ....

how the Rube just got done telling us (below) that this post had nothing to do with the lawyers and you (a little further below) tried to explain how this video was about activism and not about the "Lawyers" ...

and ...

low and behold ...

the only spot you chose to spam this info ...

was right here on this very thread ...

and not among the dozens of "Lawyer" threads.

Little ironic isn't it?

Who is making these videos?

I don't get why the person making these videos has to put that porno music in the background. Some of the other videos also have stock footage that makes no sense at all.

Just use the real video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNf_TvBJhhg

What in the world was the

What in the world was the thread title before the mod changed it? It's deceptive enough now.

The out of context soundbites has got to put this video right up there with the videos that fringe groups like "Skinheads for RP" and "Anarchists for RP" would make.


Never intended to muddy the waters like this post seems to have done. All your bickering back and forth... Counterproductive. Just think if you took the time spent arguing about these nuances (reminds me of Fox News/MSM/TMZ) and focused that energy on providing constructive and positive value to promote Liberty, Liberty candidates, and Enlightenment for others.

We need to focus on building the Liberty base so it can become the majority consensus across America; in the House, Senate, and Presidency.

When I posted this, I had no connection to the lawsuit. Instead, I liked how the video had a collection of clips of Ron Paul recognizing some of the corruption and calls for justice. If I could edit this post, I would add the blurb that it does not specially reference the lawyers for Ron Paul lawsuit. He publically did not support that lawsuit... But this video does show that he advocates and encourages individuals who know of, have documented, or can prove corruption to pursuit it.

The last few days I tried to promote a money bomb for "Ron Paul's top Senate Candidate in 2012".

There was a modest goal of raising $75,000. We failed to meet that goal. Imagine if all your attention was spent Working on behalf of the Liberty candidates who are actually sacrificing their time/life/career to advance the principles of liberty. Perhaps we could have exceeded that goal? Perhaps that effort was the straw that broke the camels back to get Kurt Bills elected.

Meanwhile... You're here... Bickering over nonsense. Counterproductive. Divisive. If L4RP is a bad idea, then let the free market determine that. Your time bashing it with countless flame wars produces nothing. Simply wasting your time. However, if you focused on adding value to the movement... We all benefit.

So, I challenge you... How can you add value to the Liberty movement today? Myself, I too used to provide little value. But since "awakening"... I donated to Dr Paul, donated and promote Kurt Bills, from my home State, and got involved and was a delegate in my local caucus for the first time. This is just the tip of the iceberg for me. Also, am trying my best to keep my Daily Paul posts positive and add value wherever I can. If you aren't adding value, what are you here for?


Maybe YOU didn't mean to

Maybe YOU didn't mean to mislead (I think it is obvious you DID) but the person who carefully spliced together these clips out of context sure as shit did. Which is why this video HURTS Ron Paul. And his supporters.

I am not sure I understand.

You wanted to raise money for a senate candidate and you posted this video with the slightly edited original title?

Is that what you are saying?

Are you the maker of this video?

Didn't make video

I found this video, and to me it seemed positive so I shared... In the spirit of fighting back against the shenanigans we've seen:





To me... The shenanigans in these States has made my blood boil... Which may be why I liked this video, as it promoted a call for action. I would like nothing more than to expose each and every establishment bozo in these States.

I love RP as a candidate and for waking me up. I have a video collection I'm working on for anyone else who wants to wake up:

So you wanted to inspire people to donate to a money bomb ...

and this was the video you picked as inpiration?

Is that what you are saying?

You were searching Youtube or you saw the spam bot on here posting this video on all the "Lawyer" threads, and you thought this is the exact video you were looking for to inspire people to donate so you posted this video under the title indicating that Paul supports the "Lawyers" all to raise money for candidates?

Is that it in a nutshell?

Were you the mod that embedded the video?

This video was embedded almost immediately. How did that happen?

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Im not going to waste any more time being baited into a flame war.

No, this video had nothing to do with the Moneybomb. The promotion of the Moneybomb was an example of adding value. This video, I posted because of the corruption in other states is something I've closely followed (see posts above) and I support anyone with proof or knowledge to actively expose, litigate, or taken action upon it. I liked hearing Ron Paul's words in this video calling for such action.

That is why I posted this video. I encourage you to move on... Add value. Well, at least thats what I'm going to do. Peace.

O.K. I think I got it.

For the most part you are trying to inspire people to get involved and you somehow got swindled into posting this video.

That actually makes sense given your history.

Your posts usually try to inspire activism and fundraising.

Would you be able to tell us who got you to post this video?

Check out the big time RINO tag team on this thread!

WOW!! This lawsuit has certainly struck a nerve!

Back to back to back to back to back tag team trolling!

Rhino--need I say more?
Danton--one of the most evil people of the French Revolution
The Granger
Big T
Good Samaritan

Mark them down and watch their tag team action closely. Happening all the time now on ANY thread dealing with the attempts to expose vote fraud and delegate assaut/intimidation.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Ahh damnit!!!

another list!
Steve Mahtin — you ah vaary funny mahn!

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Stop lying

or at least remove me from that list because you can't point to a single instance in any of my posts where I have resisted efforts to "expose fraud [or] delegate assault/intimidation".

My issues have been clearly articulated from the first post I made concerning this lawsuit. However, if your problem is reading comprehension, just ask and I'm sure someone will be glad to help you.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Yes several screen names are

Yes several screen names are used to post prolific comments focused primarily on one issue of concern - bad mouthing the lawsuit.

You'll also notice very similar writing styles of most like the frequent use of all capital words and phrases in several screen names.

There seems to be an obsession behind the screen names with derailing the lawsuit. Each screen name has espoused opinions and thoughts, but then continues to espouse them over and over and over and over again in mass comments. If you don’t agree with the lawsuit, fine. If you do, also fine. Many people have posted several comments of discussion, but these several screen names have posted scores upon scores upon scores of comments expressing the same sentiments and mostly innuendo and insinuation. That is an obsession.

For instance Danton, long time devoted DP member for an amazing 30 weeks, posted 24 comments yesterday, 21 of which were devoted solely to disparaging the lawsuit, the people involved, or any DP members posting positive comments on it. And that was just for one day. One could continue to go back through the comments for several weeks.

And they do so with such logic, such brilliance, such persuasion and eloquence. For instance:

“helluva lot more credibility than the one you are pimping.
And you are pimping it nonetheless.
Gilbert & Co have instructed their minions to use if a different opinion" is voiced here on DP.
It's hard to keep track of Richard's trolls. They change screen names so often.
Or downvoting any opinions contrary to the lawsuit-favoring trolls. MUAHAHAHA!!!
I heard a "rumor" that Troy was the city where the TROJAN HORSE originated. If it looks like a trojan, quacks like a trojan..... Is it? LOL!”

Is there an ulterior motive? The Granger has full out proclaimed, “The GOP has followed it's rules.” [sic] – A laughable assertion for anyone that has paid any attention whatsoever to the myriad of videos exposing the GOP administrators breaking their own rules repeatedly. Just a couple days ago this site had front-paged GOP rule breaking in Massachusetts. Granger also proclaims, “I'm on a central committee as you should be and Romney is going to help me get the neos to work with me,”. To believe neconservatives are going to work to further liberty - like ending NDAA, Patriot Act, foreign occupations and war, return habeas corpus, unconditionally oppose torture and prosecute those who were involved, ending rendition and assassinations – is also rather laughable. It is antithetic to their centralized power initiation of force to get your way belief system. The neoconservatives will not help with such items, unless they are completely deprogrammed, in which case they will no longer be neoconservatives. Granger also stated, ”I think the Judge is smart enough to know Romney gives power to the Ron Paul Republicans, while voting for Obama, Third or Indy removes that power and then you have No one stopping the elimination of the Constitution,” and , ” Romney win, I've only one harsh front, Democrats, and a comittee willing to listen.” [sic] These comments read like an apologist for the neoconservative GOP and promotion of the lesser of two evils scam. Those comments and others provide some insight into the mindset and motive behind those wishing to derail the lawsuit.

What is real fear behind the obsession of several screen names to derail the lawsuit? All issues will either be resolved or moot within two months. If the lawsuit is dismissed then the convention will proceed as if there were no lawsuit. The court is not going to order the delegates to be bound. That is uncontested. The GOP admits they are not bound by its own rules. The devastating downside risk that some screen names are in absolute terror of but haven’t been able to clearly articulate, are nothing but imaginary horribles. If the court orders the GOP to follow its own rules and reinstate or certify delegates it blocked or refused to certify then the convention will also proceed, but with more President Paul delegates seated. The court could also issue an injunction to follow the party agreement – its rules and by-laws - so as not to wrongfully exclude any other delegates or impose new ex post facto requirements upon the delegates.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl


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How did I not make this list btw? I've still got my $500 bet that the case will be dismissed by the end of August (or will be stuck in limbo until well after) and no one has taken me up on it.

I'm kind of upset.

Eric Hoffer


We're supporting Ron Paul, and Ron Paul's strategy and plan, Steve.

And you've made it plain that you're not.
Your main goal here is to destroy Ron Paul and his campaign, and it's been very obvious, even to the extent that you are one of the main proponents of the hijack against Ron Paul.

Anybody can look at your posting history here Steve,and see that even as far back as 2007, all you did was engage in trashing Ron Paul's campaign, and you continue doing it today.
That's obviously the reason that you are here, and your posting speaks volumes about it. No excuses necessary Steve, your existing posting history says it ALL.

I just clicked on electionfraudremedy site and it appears ...

to have been erased.

Is it my computer or has this whole "lawyers" thing just evaporated?

I typed

www.electionfraudremedy.com into my browser---it takes me to the site.


O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond

Here's why.

Start this video at 56:00 to see why they took down the site : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJX_9xUSHI

I saw Gone with the Wind

eight times . the only line I remember is "Frankly I don't give a dam"

was wearing a blindfold during the last 2 shows and it was rather
enthralling, to say the least.

We Know The Trolls are Calling Troll

On everybody who ISN'T a Troll.
They wrap themselves in the American Flag and the R3VOLUTION.

And post propaganda video to hide the fact that:

NOBODY HAS JOINED THE LAWSUIT.......................


So the Real Trolls are the one's who are constantly calling troll.

Or downvoting any opinions contrary to the lawsuit-favoring trolls.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

All trolls are welcome here is the basic point!

We know they're a lot of trolls from Romney's campaign the RNC or the Obama campaign. We want you to know you're welcome here. Think about that for a minute. I chose to post something on Mitt Romney's site. It never went up, what it said is "your comment is pending review"think about that for a minute. On the daily Paul we have the freedom to say what we want and and/or believe. On Mitt Romney's site no such luck. I say the RNC and Romney are a bunch of crooks and they should be put in jail. The way they treated the supporters of Ron Paul and his campaign is completely disgusting. And you're free to come here and sew your seeds of discontent. Your problem is they won't take root. It's all over for you and your kind, freedom has come back to America! Thank God, and God have mercy on your souls. I'm praying for you too!!

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein

Desperate and Sad marketing tactic

Out of context soundbites and then, to cap it off, an announcement of the Ron Paul event in Tampa (something legit) with the goal of the legitimacy of the Tampa event rubbing off on the lawsuit.

This is not a truthful post. Off Topic at best.

Notice that comments are disabled for the video on Youtube.

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

This is getting to be almost appallingly desperate.

implementing the old adage of: there's a new sucker born every minute...
I wonder why they left out the part where Dr. Paul says in plain ‘ol english: “if they asked…”



You seem to be infatuated with this subject.

You're Not Doin' So Bad Yerself

Just my opinion...will it get downvoted?


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Downvotes are probable

since your reply made little sense.

It's How Richard's Minions

Do Business here.
To be expected of opportunists and propagandists.
Could you make sense of that?

BTW: Yours is not a reply..it's a "remark"
Figure that one out too willya?

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

You find comfort

in confusion?