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The reasons we are failing and will continue to fail. It is a very simple fix.

I have seen this last election and it has shown its ugly head once again, what am I talking about? Fear and division, that nasty demon that creates doubt in our hearts and minds that distracts us from focusing on the real goal.

We have two choices, we can stand united and fight or we can argue about nonsense that accomplishes nothing and fail. The choice is up to all of you.

The difference between the hero and the coward is the hero is willing to go for it and take the hits to which the coward will haul ass at the first sign of trouble.

We can not force our goodwill on anyone, we can only set good examples and hope people wish to emulate us. Ron Paul

One general rule, PEOPLE SUCK, yes I said it sue me, PEOPLE SUCK, instead of talking they should be listening, instead of fighting they should be uniting, instead of attacking others for their work they should be finding another solution to the problem.

We agree with each other 98% of the time on most issues; however, we spend 98% of the time bitching, complaining and fighting with each other about the 2% we disagree on. THIS IS WHY NOTHING GETS DONE.

You don't have to agree with the people you are working with, you don't even have to like them, but we are all supposed to be on the same team and if we can not find a way to work together, WE WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING together.

We need to stop being so afraid of talking with people that disagree with us, we need to stop insulting them and educate them. the only way we grow is to represent the idea of Ron Paul's message of freedom and liberty. if you piss them off they won't listen to any of us. be humble not aggressive. How long did it take all of us to come around? Think about it.

The moral is think before you speak, think before you act, instead of fighting with others find common ground to determine a solution and maybe, just maybe, we will accomplish many great things.




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Always be positive when trying to convince.

I've learned that people are much more willing to hear about Ron Paul and the message when you bring up the positive talking points and stay calm when people disagree. If you bring up the doomsday aspects of the kind of trouble this country is in and loose your patience with uninformed people, that usually leads to people blocking out what you have to say. Just remember that this is the Ron Paul reEVOLution.

Wrong Again Neverquit! Gotcha!

The facts, and I am talking REAL facts here, not the made up numbers you used, ok. So you better get it right, you are a flat out liar, the most dishonest person on earth, and how dare you support liberty, ok? Did you even pass first grade math? What an idiot. What am I talking about? Here it is.... We agree with each other 97% of the time on most issues; however, we spend 97% of the time bitching, complaining and fighting with each other about the 3% we disagree on.

EVERYBODY knows this! You know I am right. You fudged that 1%!!!!!!!!!!!!! What amazing BS. Its NOT 98% its 97% you dummy! You must be a troll causing division amoung our ranks. Look, I am an understanding guy, the seven and eight are so close on the keyboard, hey it could happen to anybody. BUT I KNOW you were a troll when your failed to CORRECT your MISTAKE.

Finally, people don't suck, neverquit. They are just other versions of ourselves, ok? This movement is about LOVE and PEACE and gently getting along. Then you come along with your blatent 98% lies! Further you fail to correct your "MISTAKE" (yea right, sure, a mistake). Fact is, its you who SUCKS!

And don't forget, we are all just other versions of ourselves. So lets all love eachother.

Wait, did I just say we should all make love and suck? No! scratch that you perverted lying creatinous troll!!! Moderators! Moderators! Where are the dam Moderators???!! Someone should ban this guy. Actually, the special ops guys have infiltrated the DP and are doing EXACTLY these kind of things to cause us to all fight. Come on people! Ban these guys. Moderator!

Treg

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You are a liar and a troll my

You are a liar and a troll my 98% is correct you are WRONG! LEARN TO ADD and SPELL and then maybe we can find something else I can argue with you about. How dare you tell me my math was off by 1% IDIOT!

I feel better now and I believe I just accomplished a lot with this comment. I have been here for over 3 years and you have only been here for over 4 years, what do you know? By the way I am not inviting you to my birthday party now. na na na na na, your not my friend anymore and I am telling my mom on you.

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Why have I heard nothing

Why have I heard nothing about this?

This is a comment.

This is a comment.

bullshit

There are too many people employed by or otherwise dependent directly or indirectly on federal, state or local governments and their contractors. The remainder, well, there not all liberty embracers either.

The majority tyranny cannot be defeated nationally by a majority wins political system. It's foolish to even have that as a goal when there are plenty of noble fights- influencing existing states, forming new states, nullification, disobedience, starving the beast- that can be won.

FUNNY HOW

Funny How I keep seeing threads talking about how we are divided and falling apart recently (on this board). If I was a conspiracy guy (which I've learned to be via the good folks on the daily Paul, thank you all sincerely ) I'd think this was a brain washing campaign to make us think that we are falling apart........Note

This simple fact is you are "FREE" no to like me and I'm "FREE" not to like you.

The only thing that matters is we both like Ron Paul and put him in office period.

Just read the comments

There is an argument on almost every thread. Positive uncontroversial posts are getting down voted. Lots of outsiders coming in and fueling the fire.
There was a video put up yesterday about frustration and anger breeding misbehavior. This only got 2 up votes and yet it is exactly what is going on here on DP.

http://www.dailypaul.com/242580/anger-feeds-misbehavior

maybe people don't want to dwell

on everything has gone wrong threads when the movement has actually accomplished a lot.

I see all these posts telling people what to do and what to think and I think I wish those people would just trust in people a little more than to think so little of them that lectures like this op and many others need to be said.

imo all these threads are about ego, the ego of someone saying 'hey you lot, you're all wrong, listen to me, I am right'

I await my down votes

Exactly! no dwelling

This has been a long a painful process and people are bound to lose patients, get dejected and argue amongst themselves. However, it's usually very easy to see the rational side of these arguments as it's usually one one poster or person against several with level heads.

My problem with these type of thread is that they focus on the friction between us when instead, I believe, we need to focus on the basics.

I'd like to see more energy put into communication between us and the Rom delegates. We will need to give our people some good ammo to try and convert them, if we get the chance. You know, simple easy to understand bites that don't make us sound like conspiracy crazies.

Ego- I don't think it's about ego. We are creatures of communication and influence. we spend our whole lives trying to show people what we've learned and what we believe. The only issue is that some are more forceful and closed minded about it than others.

Pretty much

hit the nail on the head.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
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Once upon a time...

There was a small town where widow's were hungry and in despair.
Orphans went without daily needs and the poor went hungry at times.
Yes..there were people willing and able to help yet they were divided into two separate churches (both with the EXACT same name) which refused to work together or even risk being seen together!
These churches (the pastors being identical twin brothers) were built EXACTLY alike down to the last brick and light fixture! Oddly enough they were built directly across from each other!
A stranger come to town and curiously asked what the difference was between these churches. He was enlightened to the lone single difference between the groups which divided thus rendering them of no effect:
"One church believes Moses was floating in the river..."
"...but the other believes she just SAID he was floating in the river".

guys my name

let us unite!

Thank you!

Bumping!

betty

Sad but true and worse than you think

As a relative 'newb' around here, I can tell you I am turned off from the movement a bit lately due to the attacks. I have to tell everyone, you are all still people and many act and react just like the crowd from Glenn Beck's new sites and the far left websites. Angry aggressive, rude, mean, snobbish and cruel.

The minute people were pissed off at Rand for being a typical politician this place split up to a 50/50 ratio that I don't think will repair itself. Some want to play games in politics, while others of us got here by being tired of the games. Personally, I am the latter and as a result of my not backing Rand's tact have been accosted here worse than at Beck's site for not 'towing the line'. Hey, many of us accept what Rand did, but many of us also still think he is full of S if he thinks he can do what no one else has.

I could give a crap about young kids here that act this way and there is alot of good info here, but I can tell you this crowd isn't really much different than any other crowd when it comes down to mob mentality.

There are some great minds around here, there are some complete fools, there are erratic and thoughtful juveniles, and crazy old guys like me that will be here when people are ready to stop playing politics and get serious if and when the rest of America is. Getting everyone to respect each other adequately and form a plan? Maybe, but people will be people eventually when the strand of hair that bound them starts to fray at the edges.

I know I didn't give any positive fixes to your dilemma, I am not sure there is a fix for 'people' after what I see here and everywhere else.

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United we stand

Divided we fall,
we vote for Paul,
or none at all!

Great chant for the

Great chant for the convention!

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Nice rhyme

Nice rhyme

The downvotes indicate and

The downvotes indicate and confirm exactly what I am talking about. They can only downvote, they do not provide any other solution nor do they comment as to why the post is incorrect. To the 7 people thus far that downvoted this post, don't be a coward explain why the post is wrong or provide another solution. Very simple.

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I thought they were up-votes.

I agree, with one precaution - that working together does not mean compromise. I wish it were only 2% differences causing the infighting, but I believe you still have many believing MSM and taking orders from the top. In a true representative republic, the agenda begins at the local level and is pushed out to the states, where the states remain sovereign. Today we have a corrupt RNC trying to force their agenda down to us, that they may be able to protect their special interests and their wallets!

mvs

You thought downvotes were

You thought downvotes were upvotes? I don't understand, Can you please elaborate for us.

That oughta be interesting!

Yes, an explanation of how a down arrow looks like an up air would be nice! You people who downvote..are your computer screens upside-down?

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