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The Redstaters are about to find a rat in their Kool Aid, and we shall never let them forget the taste...

It has been said that Ron Paul followers are uncompromising, irrational, and stuck on principle, but in reality it is the opposition in our own party who have failed our nation by uncompromising ignorance. The health care ruling is a real eye opener in that the Supreme Court has proven itself to be part of the status quo in a political sense, instead of doing it's job by defining law via the Constitution.

The interesting thing about this election cycle is the fact that Ron Paul supporters were called out for acting the same as their uninformed counterparts in the GOP. They say we would never sway from Dr. Paul, but isn't that exactly what our fellow Republicans have done? Back a candidate that is not polling well, and who they know will not uphold any of their principles if pressured in the least, when they had a true statesman to choose from.

Whether it was the racism portrait by the media towards Muslims that they grasped hold of, or the blood lust of endless and undeclared war is beyond my comprehension, but in the end the redstaters will eventually realize the error of their ways.

After the Supreme Court's ruling on ObamaCare, the posts heated up and they were truly focused on one thing: Getting their GOP 'betters' into office to stop and repeal this atrocious law. They still do not realize that the power elite will never relinquish this power, and they will be lied to again and again while they choose the lesser of two evils, simply due to partisan ignorance and misguidance by the media, whose kool aid they drink up like a camel at the 500 mile desert oasis. This is simply because an actor on Fox acts as if he/she supports their ideals, whether they really do or not.

The interesting part that is about to occur will be to watch all the statists line up and beg the question, how did it happen? Not that this will give us, the true American patriots, any relief, but it will be bitter sweet watching the sheep awaken to the reality that we are not crazy, we are not conspiracy theorists (but rather curios for truth), and that we, the Paulbots, were right. And we stood our ground not for political reasons, but for the betterment of our nation, under conservative principles if not a bit more socially liberal mindsets.

So never feel ashamed or embarrassed to be belittled for supporting Dr. Paul or the ideas of liberty. Wear their insults as a badge of honor, and hope for the day that they, the statists realize that corporatism is truly a path to destruction and in the end not the American way.

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I agree with your first

I agree with your first point.
The second point I am not sure about,
but I find your third point slightly redundant.

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"It has been said that Ron Paul followers are uncompromising, irrational, and stuck on principle, but in reality it is the opposition in our own party who have failed our nation by uncompromising ignorance."

Two words....'Rand Paul'.

There are plenty of "the true American patriots" (referencing the 'paulbots' in the article) who have and will rationalize & justify 'certain' establishment actions and support. People are people and those who have 'awakened' due to 'a man' and those who follow 'a man' or 'a movement', rather than the ethic/philosophy, well, the results always end up speaking for themselves sooner or later.

It is what it is.

That said, there will be a goodly new crop of principled folks who come out of this 'paul-movement', once the wheat is separated from the chaff.

I am curious to see where all the leaderless lemmings (analogously) will go and what they will do when Ron Paul is gone and and government continues to grow more tyrannical, headed for totalitarianism.

Time will tell.

Well Put

Amongst my circle of family and friends, there is a sizable 'redstate/neocon' number. I have plenty of variety in my acquaintances, with flaming 'progressive' types and now (thanks to a degree from years of my teaching and exhorting) a sizable core of Liberty lovers... which is the only label I like to use. Labels can be so problematic. Still, they serve to communicate if used carefully, and communication is vital.

Among the 'redstate' types, a big issue in their search for a candidate is that of social conservatism. A great deal can be stacked under this label - everything from abortion to drug enforcement. And they are inclined to see many of Ron Paul's Liberty position on these issues as far left liberal (in the modern and media defined sense of that label). I have had great success in my discussions with them by explaining the individual issues in light of coercion and freedom.

For example, the gay marriage issue. This is a freedom issue in the sense that government coercion can just as easily be used against social conservatives, as it can be used in their favor. If government has the power to define social relationships in this area, the 'conservatives' can be forced, through coercion of law, to accept as legitimate associations they find immoral. Thus, the gun they want to use against others, can easily be turned on them. But if this is a matter of individual liberty, then they can denounce gay marriage all they like and refuse to call it anything they wish, including sinful. Their church bodies and businesses cannot be forced to accept such marriages. So I argue that government has no place in the marriage relationship to begin with. This has always worked well for me in my discussions. The neocon may not see the light, but he has no rebuttal either. And eventually this argument will have its effect in other areas.

I find that more people on the right see gay marriage as a

religious issue more than a political one, but you are right when you say that giving government the ability of force on social issues always comes back around to bite one side or the other in the arse. My argument to the religious right who are against gay marriage based on religious reasoning is to question whether adultery or gay marriage is the greater sin in the eyes of God, where on gods chart of sins do each fall? If no man is free from sin God looks upon such equally and so should they, yet they do not persecute one for committing adultery against their spouse. This is more proof positive that the issue in and of itself is nothing more than aa tool used to divide people over non issues, when it is the economy hidden up their sleeve. I think this is why the bible says not to judge another, because in reality to swear, lust, or to commit adultery is equal to having homosexual sex so far as the bible says, and God forgives all sins, but the Christians certainly do not. In the end this has been the downfall of our legal system, groups commanding what is moral versus what the constitution and rule of law say. This has led to victim-less crimes and penalties which can end the hopes and dreams of a young person for simply making a mistake, and the moral majority always stands behind the decision of the bench, for if it were not for the judicial branch and the court system they could not push their personal moral idealism, while most of the time the most heinous of violent crimes come from the church (Catholics raping boys) or drug abuse and prostitution (Haggard), yet most are forgiven if they play the role and beg for forgiveness, but a different set of rules apply to the non-religious among us. I am by no means attacking religion, just stating provable fact for discussion. You cannot legislate morality, or you end up with huge numbers of citizens incarcerated for profit, and heaven knows the power structure in the U.S. would never allow this to occur. /sarcasm off

Always remember:
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Actually, we are to judge each other as Christians (those inside the church)1 Corin 5:12 but not those outside the church. It does also say what you said though.People need to remove the plank of wood from their own eyes before they remove a speck of sawdust from their brother's eye. Mt 7:5 I think the balance is we are to judge ourselves first and then when we have our "act somewhat" together, and we will be more able to help another when they fall. We all are wretched so we needn't get pious about anything. WRT your statement: "God looks upon such equally and so should they" As far a sin is concerned, any one sin is enough to send us to Hell but Jesus was our sacrafice so that we might be holy and be in his presence. However, for those that decide that they would rather go to hell and not accept Christ's sacrafice, the punishment can vary. God does look at the punishment for types of sin differently. For example, Jesus was speaking and in Luke 12:47 he said, "The servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. . . NIV. I said that b/c there will be different punishment for the types of sins. I think the worst punishment is being banned from God's presence and secondly being in torment. I believe there will be different levels of torment. I agree with your conversation that people should not necessarily focus on homosexuals and their type of sin b/c adultry occurs in both the homosexual and heterosexual world and yes even in the churches. I will add though that being promiscous is natural, but we are called to be supernatural and lean on the help of the Holy Spirit of God to escape the natural tendencies. Homosexuality, however, is unnatural. It definately is a moral thing and not a political thing. If the Govt wants people to be more moral, they need to be less oppressive on the churches and advocate teaching religous beliefs. W/o it, you will need a cop or a way to be able to watch every person. We already know what "that way" is and it is already in the works.

Your argument with Christian

Your argument with Christian duplicity on the gay marriage vs heterosexual adultery is a good one, and I will certainly be sure to use it. It covers the same bases while having the added benefit of appealing to their theological perspectives. A double whammy.

Good article

I will put this in bookmarks for reference.

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isn't it

coincidental that the ruling on obamney care came out after they feel they have both parties nominations sewed up? It a big freakin nut shell game...

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

Is This My Cue To Cheer?

Come on...you were drinking the KOOL-AID when you wrote that self-serving dribble. Were those quotes from an old Doug Weak book written in the early 90's or what?

If you are part of the Ron Paul 2012 campaign, can you do us all a huge favor and RESIGN? At least have the decency to stop writing that toilet paper fodder.

Be seeing you.

so much so

like dogs eating their own vomit.wretched bastards, the lot of em!

LOve the R3volution

Calling all Delagates

Please don't drop the ball. Fight hard for us at the convention. You'll be in our thoughts. Fight people. Oromney is vetting Bush's old guard for his own administration. The NWO changes hands back to the old guard with oromney as the front man. People fight this. We need Ron Paul as our President. We need a mircale.

Keepin' it real.

Hurricane Paul is about to hit Tampa

A miracle, maybe a divine wind of liberty? It has happened before, it can happen again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_%28typhoon%29

Jesus Is In The Miracle Business

Unfortunately, Dr. Paul is not...and you hammerheads still don't get it - it's over...even RonPaul10 figured that out after Rand bailed and we got that 'ole soft-shoe response fro his dad.

By the way, does anybody but me think that artwork on the "Ron Paul 2012 Restore America Now" brochure looks a lot like an 80 year old George W. Bush? That pic gives me the willies.

Be seeing you.

They all need their hands on

They all need their hands on the Ron Paul football at the same time, and keep them there until they all put the ball over the goal line together. Shoulder pads and helmets recommended. hehe

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Not a rat...

But a Diamondback Rattlesnake, or a Porcupine, that has learned how to say "Don't Tread on Me"!

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I can't wait for the bottom

I can't wait for the bottom to drop out. I love saying ," I told you so."

I used to love saying, "I

I used to love saying, "I told you so." But I'm really getting tired of being right... It's not good for our country for me to have been right so much. I would love for them to prove me wrong for a change, because me being right is getting VERY SCARY.

I can't just type LOL. I

I can't just type LOL. I gotta say I truly laughed my ass off. I'm with you, but I think we're in for a rocky road. Being right is the only consolation.

Being right...

..is the worst possible defense, both in politics and in marriage.

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Minor correction

"the Supreme Court has proven to [be what is always has been, a] part of the status quo"

Look at where we were before Obamacare passed. Was 99% of the what the feds did Constitutional? Nope. I rest my case your honor.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Albeit only a few of the overall laws... This is quiet telling.


1.41 laws overturned or deemed unconstitutional per year since 1789, out of the thousands if not millions on the book. Perhaps you have something there.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

What is RedState?

Compare to the DailyPaul.com here: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/redstate.com#

I enjoyed the write-up.

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