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Mother Who Questions Vaccine at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away

by Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

I am having a great deal of trouble typing this post. I am so upset and outraged over what was done to Jodi Ferris and her baby at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Pennsylvania shortly after she gave birth that I am having difficulty staying composed enough to write a coherent story.

If you recall, this is the same area of the state where officials allowed a serial child molester like Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State assistant football coach, to go free for decades and continue to abuse children unfortunate enough to come across his lecherous path while a mother who gives birth in a government hospital has her baby taken away for questioning whether vaccination with Hep B is truly necessary.

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Jodi and Scott Ferris’ Story

Jodi had hoped to have a homebirth. After going into labor early and given the distance to the nearest hospital, Jodi and her husband Scott were advised by their midwife to call an ambulance and get to the hospital.

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Seriously sir, the only ignorant nonsense in this thread is

spewing from your frontal orifice, but I suspect you already know this and simply enjoy the antagonistic nature of your own flawed personality. The political and elitist class prey on people like you. God Bless.

And infectious diseases prey

And infectious diseases prey on your children, so it kinda balances out, doesn't it?


GlaxoSmithKline fined 3 BILLION Dollars for health fraud, including advertising Paxil use for children.

Westfall......you can do a simple google search and find much much more. I hope you never, ever have children.


MD Anderson has confirmed that up to 60% of all cases of that

vile full-body cancer, lymphoma, are caused by vaccines, notably the notorious SV-40, simian virus #40.

This is a contaminant of the oral and injectible polio vaccine. Today, 50% of all men living in the Western world, particularly the USA, have live SV-40 viruses in their sperm.

You do know that the perpetrators grew the polio virus within rhesus monkies (green monkies), then sacrificing them, and then extracting the bloody soup plus viruses from monkey kidneys and testicles.

According to Maurice Helliman, one of the founding agents of modern vaccination, these vaccines are the "bargain basement" of modern medicine.

You got better science than that?

The science is clear.

Birth is a natural process and the medical industry is making a killing scaring people.

"The science is clear"?

Part of virulency is mode of infection. Is this mother likely to expose her baby to blood born pathogens? Is the child wanting to play in the sewer or pass around a needle? You have poor judgement if you think this is a matter that merits intervention. Lead be example, not by coercion. Maybe you should ponder that thought for a while.

What exactly am I coercing

What exactly am I coercing people to do? Parents should not own children and be able to do whatever they please is it relates to them.

Suppose a parent allowed a child to run out in the street and play?
Suppose a religious parent wanted a child to handle venomous snakes (as some do)?
Suppose a parent was a crackhead, and wanted to keep unsafe drugs around her children?

The concept of individual liberty does not cover you making decisions for other people. Refusing to allow vaccinations to a child, does result in real child deaths that could have easily been prevented by basic medical care.

where's your proof?

There's no objective proof that vaccinations prevent disease. There is, however, a great deal of proof that children are dying in great numbers worldwide from having received vaccinations. There is also proof that autism is directly caused by vaccinations, as well as many other serious and permanent side effects.

Many more children are killed and permanently harmed today from having received vaccines than those that have died from not having received them.

And whereas the parents are being prosecuted and persecuted for trying to save their children from the harm of vaccines, where is the prosecution of doctors, nurses, hospitals and the manufacturers of vaccines when a child is killed or harmed by the vaccine? It's non-existant in the U.S. It's beginning to happen overseas.

"There's no objective proof

"There's no objective proof that vaccinations prevent disease."

Hey, do you remember smallpox? How about polio? Please tell me how you think those went away?

Polio? You must have missed

Polio? You must have missed the link below.
In the attempt to eliminate this one disease they exposed millions to another. Does not sound like a good trade to me.
While they "eliminate" these diseases, what other diseases are innocents exposed to and what else are we doing? What are the long term genetic impacts that could afflict our children, grand children, great grand children down the road?
We are what we eat and we are finding what we digest can affect our direct relatives generations down the road. These vaccines are directly mainlined and seems like we are playing with fire to me...

One or two vaccinations

if not the concern. I am 65 years old and I had vaccinations.
It is pumping children with 25-30 vaccinations by the time they are 5 years old. Check out how many vaccinations are actually recommended (required?) for kids to begin kindergarten. It has become ridiculous - and I can tell you that as an elementary teacher for 30 years - learning disabilities are becoming a SERIOUS problem in our schools. If it's not vaccinations (the most obvious addition to ALL children's lives - including affluent families) - then what you suggest it might be?

It's All About Commerce

Parents refusing to vaccinate their children are interfering with and not participating in the natural flow of commerce. The guberment does not like this behavior and will go to great lengths to avoid this including but not limited to removing the child/children from the home and arresting and charging the parents with child endangerment and an assortment of other 'crimes' that they can think of. The parents will be taken to court and convicted on these trumped-up crimes, pay a fine and court costs (commerce) and possibly incarcerated (commerce)for a period of time. This is a simple case of following the money. Remember, the passage of Obamacare is all about commerce and was upheld by SCOTUS even though CJ Roberts turned it about the taxing authority of the House.

Prosecution of manufacturers and doctors will never happen because they are protected by gubernment under the veil of the commerce clause. Gubernment reasoning, with the help of the companies/doctors writing the legislation, is that if pharmaceuticals/doctors are held liable for their participation in commerce then these companies/doctors will refuse to produce/administer the drugs and that would hurt commerce.

Good game if you can play it and get paid.


Do you believe in a mother's right to abort (or kill a fetus)?

Just wondering where you draw the line between "parent's rights" and state's rights over your child or your own body.

"Parents should not own children"

- but the state/corporation does own your children? Parents do not own their children, but they are responsible for them.... they have to look out for their health and welfare, until they are old enough to do so themselves. Asking questions about vaccine's and what a doctor is putting into the body of your child IS your responsibility and your right as a parent. They ask you to sign a waver before vaccination, saying essentially that if they inadvertently kill your healthy child with the vaccine, that you will not hold them responsible for that act. Hmmmm..... and you don't think a parent should have some questions about that?

"I don't know if the world is full of smart men bluffing
or imbeciles who mean it."

I don't support Midwifery...

...but I DO support these parents! This is a social worker on a power trip, if the reporting is accurate.

This is a great example for me of what Dr. Ron Paul means when he says we should all come together not for this or that particular goal, but freedom in general. Will I rally to support midwifery or vaccination opt-outs? No. I will, though, rally to support parental freedoms and corporeal freedoms, that encompass much more, and limit the power of lil bureaucrats to try to live our lives for us!

confusing and conflicting

There seems to be a conflict in what you wrote. If you support parental freedoms, it would follow that you support a parent's right to use a midwife as well as a parent's right to opt out of vaccinations.

I know many women in Seattle that have had home births using midwifes. My best friend had all three of her children in this way. I consider it the very best way to have a child.

Maybe you're saying that you, personally, wouldn't use a midwife and that you'd, personally, opt-in for all vaccines, while supporting the rights of others to do as they prefer. Mixed message in your post.

I'm being forced to take a Hep B shot in Canada to become a Para

Paramedic. And the surprising thing is that it's not the Ambulance Services!!! It's the schools who you get your license through!!! The Ambulance gives you the right to conscienciously object. I found out also that hep B is not a major threat to us about 90 percent recover completely from it! That's (completely)!!! So why are they forcing us?? Especially when there are better ways to fight the disease?

Can't you make a religious exemption that it is against your

faith to receive animal products from unknown sources and potential human cell-grown matter?

If nothing else, do antidote this with the oil of oregano and whole food, natural vitamin C to prevent the inevitable adrenal gland crisis caused by such vaccines.

Hep B vaccine is a key cause of autoimmune disorders of the thyroid, including Hashimoto's diseases.

I believe Deuteronomy talks about blood products,

as does the Qur'aan. If that helps.

Hey, Are you sure you didn't

Are you sure you didn't get hep B shots back in grade school. I had 3 in grade 6, in BC. Also, you're a little higher odds of exposure. You might get a splatter of blood in the eye when your doing something important. And it's not like you get to choose who you work on.

Have you tried a blood draw

Have you tried a blood draw for titers? I went through the same thing as you for my nursing program but I got all my titers drawn and thankfully most of em were good. They got me on the tetanus though because they now mix it in the Tdap and so by getting a tetanus I had to take all the other toxins too even though my titers for those were fine.

I hope there is more to this story......

Having read the entire article linked, I am thinking there has to be more to this story. If this is true, as written, then this hospital violated so many laws that a lawsuit against them cannot fail.

All three of my daughters were born in Pennsylvania hospitals. One in the same county where this happened, but at a different hospital. We filed our birth plans far in advance instructing that no vaccines were to be given. This included both Hep B and Vitamin K. Pennsylvania has a vaccine opt out for religious or philosophical reasons and we claimed this exemption, far in advance, in writing. It was on record with our birth plan. Our birth plan also stated that one of the parents would be accompany the baby after birth for every test etc.

We had no problems with any of three births. NOBODY ever questioned us about not vaccinating. No doctor ever harassed us. One nurse made a snide sort of comment, but that was it. No social worker ever came knocking. After the deliveries, which were all by C section, I personally carried my daughters to the newborn room and was present for everything that happened. Nobody every questioned me or suggested that I shouldn't. We had one doctor with my middle child who was rude about something other than vaccines, and made a request that he not treat us. We never saw him again.

If you are not going to play by their rules you have to be prepared far in advance for everything that may come up. That means having a written birth plan, with all instructions, even if you are planning a home birth...Just in case. We have never been questioned ever in Pennsylvania or Florida, where we live part-time (by doctors, social workers, public school employees) ever about not vaccinating once our written exemption has been presented.

I hope there is more to this story. If not, these parents need to sue the pants off of this hospital and every person involved.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

I'm glad it went well for you,

but I have seen this happen over and over again to me, my loved ones, and acquaintances. hospitals treat homebirth transfers as the scum of the earth. so, no, i doubt there is "more to the story".

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I know people who been

I know people who been through similar scenarios (and much worse) as well, just not in Pennsylvania.

The religious/philosophical objection to vaccines is law. However, you have to specifically object with the wording of the state statute. I suspect these parents did not do that. It does not make what happened right, however it does make what happened avoidable.

I still think this hospital should have their pants sued off. This should also serve as a valuable lesson to future parents. Know the laws in your state long before your child is due and be prepared to cite the statutes if you need to.

For each of our three births, we had our exemption/objection filed in writing and cited the state statute. Nobody ever bothered or pressured us after that.

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

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What's all the fuss?

They just want compliance. Comply, and we'll all get along just fine.
Welcome to the plantation. It'll only get worse. In this case, since a social worker was involved, I assume the victim was already a ward of the state in some fashion, which gives the bureaucrats "authority" to dictate such things. But once we are all snuggly wrapped up in OBarryCare, (or ORomneyCare for that matter), the crats will take the same liberties with us. There is no end to the power they can assert. I can only say that if this behemoth takes hold, I'll likely be leaving a long list of unpaid taxes upon my death.

Undo what Wilson did

They need to sue that hospital and the social worker.

This is totally outrageous! They had no right whatsoever to do this. There needs to be community groups who defend people from this kind of abuse! If the community was close knit and people were watching out for each other, I don't think this would have happened, but everybody's so stuck on their damn boob tube that we have alienated our very own freedom! Turn off your TV, throw the bloody thing out, and get to know your neighbors (the nice ones!) and form community groups.

I feel really sorry for these people. The hospital and the social worker took what should have been a wonderful experience away from these people and gave them a nightmare that they will remember all their lives. I hope they get SUED!!!!!!!!!


She must have signed that Record of Live Birth ... Shame-Shame!

When you Mothers sign that document as the Informant, you're signing the child over to the STATE; abandoning the Child; the Child is now a Ward of the STATE; a bastard Child, with no Father and a Mother who abandoned it.

The STATE takes ownership of the Child but lets the parents continue to care for it. The parents are now the 'legal guardians' of the Child.

The people better wake up real quick. I've written a few times on what's happening and why, but it keeps getting moved to Off Topic.


Read about it:


And here:


I can't wait till this catches on around here. This is the reason the STATE presumes to have authority of you; it's the damn Certificate of Live Birth we've all been using as a form of Identity.

The sham that gives child to the state: Record of live birth

Thanks for the info, South. This comment to you is to remind me to view it. Keep beating this drum of yours. Get this info out and about.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

No way she could have signed any certificates

before they did this to her. The baby was born in the parking lot.

One thing that parents should do is to become informed about the birth process and not put all their trust in midwives. Certified midwives follow medical protocols and worry about their own careers in the same way that doctors will do c-secs just to CTA.

It is common for birthing mother's to feel like "I can't do this...something must be wrong" immediately proceeding birth. This is why they decide to transfer and end up with parking lot births. Education may have helped avoid this tragedy.



School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.