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This programme was broadcast in March 2001 - and it told the story of what happened on September 11th 2001: The planes were remo

As always, they tell what they are going to do before they do it.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/68663-this-programme-was-...

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Planes without wreckage?

Find an old clip from the 'news' on 9-11 showing the 'planes.'

Click on your mouse very slowly, repeatedly.

You won't see planes but only images of them: that fade away into nothing even before 'striking' the buildings.

No wreckage = no planes.

No titanium engines = no planes

OperationNorthwoods: Well-crafted passenger lists.

More info: wwww.nodisinfo.com

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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

Imagine this if you will

Imagine this is you will...

NY city's largest bank gets knocked off by robbers...the alarms go off, bullets flying everywhere, blood splattered everywhere, people screaming, crying, and it goes nation wide as the cameras roll...and no sign of police to help...nowhere!
After about 35 minutes another bank gets hit just around the corner. It's the second largest bank in NY city and the alarms go off, bullets flying everywhere, blood splattered people come running out of the bank, screams heard everywhere, people falling into their own pool of blood, cameras rolling and people worldwide are viewing this horror on live television..still ......no sign of police!
The robbers escape with no witnesses to describe them other than they accidentally dropped their Islamic ID card while making their hasty getaway.

All this happens ( and much more ) over a period of almost 2 hours without ever one police unit showing up.
How unbelievable is this?
When asked what happened to NY city's elite SWAT teams and other units that failed to respond, they are told that they were having joint Police exercises on bank robberies and thought that all they heard on the news and radio were part of their exercises and that next time they will definitely be more on the alert!

This is an allegory of the abomination of what took place on 9/11 ( but on a much larger scale ) and the total and complete failure of NORAD, and STUPID Americans believe this crap? Really?

Not to mention the Pentagon....the Pentagon....the most protected piece of real estate on the entire planet with the most sophisticated surface to air defence imaginable and they got hit right where they were working on trying to find out where the missing 2.3 TRILLION dollars went!

Is there really anyone who actually believes this stuff? Really?

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Hmmmm............that was

Hmmmm............that was just about the same thing the generals in the bunker said. Is it live or is it memorex?

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Great comment thanks!

If it wasn't so sad, it is almost funny how people see the most blatant and unlikely lies as the only truth and see perfect logic and proofs as "conspiracy theory" or "unscientific". Our view on reality has been so distorted by the propaganda of mainstream media and all other institutions that black has become white and up has become down.

No wonder it can be hard to awaken as everything has to go. We have been lied to about EVERYTHING. To find the truth we first have to unlearn everything we think we know and that is too much to ask for most people.

But having said that reading the comments on this thread is very encouraging. A few years ago a thread like this would have been taken over by the debunkers repeating all the lies they have been told without an ounce of investigation or critical thinking for themselves.

We have come along way already!

how many people know that it was Dov Zakeim's company SPC

which pioneered remote "anti-hijack" systems allowing controllers to seize commercial aircraft from the ground? It was called Flight Termination System and Bush lied about it already being available.

Flight termination system marketing material:
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/sept11/sysplan_fts.html

HISTORYCOMMONS: October 2, 2001: Remote Controlled Passenger Airplane Flew Before 9/11, Despite Claims to the Contrary (HistoryCommons.org)
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a100201raythe...

Who was Dov Zakheim? Arch-Zionist who was comptroller of the Pentagon when $2.3 trillion was announced missing on the day before 9/11, member of Project for a New American Century.

Oh yes, SPC also did the investigation for the first WTC bombing in 1993. So Zakheim knew the buildings inside and out (Tridata is fully owned by SPC.)

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/tr-076.pdf

READ THE BLOCKBUSTER: "Who Did It? Technology of Autopilot/Remote Flight on 9/11, Motive, Means, Opportunity'
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Incredible, how many coincidences happened in one day,

ain't it?

Undo what Wilson did

Sorry but it proves nothing

except that Condi, etc. were lying when they said no-one could have predicted it.

http://www.salon.com/2005/09/14/planes/
U.S. aviation officials were warned in 1998 that al-Qaida could “seek to hijack a commercial jet and slam it into a U.S. landmark.” The FAA was also warned in early 2001 that airport screeners weren’t up to the task of detecting weapons that might be taken onto planes, the report says.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/politics/14terror.html?hp&...

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But why did Condi & the others lie? It does prove something.

If 9/11 was important enough for the highest appointed and elected officials in this country to lie about it, what does that tell you? They lied to the People. Why? For more wars, the Patriot Act, FEMA Camps, etc. This sounds like more than just a simple lie.

Basically, People lie to either

cover themselves or someone else, or for gaining something.
Our government is one BIG lie!

God will deal with them all at His perfect time, and NONE shall escape!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

them lying proves more

than a fictional tv show.

The op says that because this show existed that it proves that 911 was remote control planes. I disagree with that completely.

Add fuel to the fire.

Operation Northwoods, in the early 60's, 63 if I'm not mistaken, actually stated that they would use remote controlled "drone" airliners to stage a false flag to justify war with Cuba. Google "northwoods, justification for war with Cuba".

The idea, from our own government, of remote controlled planes used for false flags is an old one.

Is that what happened? I don't know. But Northwoods was given a "go" by the joint chiefs of staff, it was someone in the administration that apparently shot the idea down. 4 decades later...it happens. I don't think that is a stretch, I think we were lucky to go that long without it happening.

Only President Kennedy STOPPED it.


Operation Northwoods was planned, and strongly advocated by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to deceive the public and serve as a false flag attack to permit The U.S. to go to War with Cuba.

President Kennedy stopped it, and saw it rightfully as an act of Treason. He also fired General Lyman L. Lemnitzer over the matter.

But think: Had Richard Nixon or Lyndon Johnson been in charge at the time, they would have given the plan the Green Light. After all, it was Johnson who happily went along with "The Gulf Of Tonkin" and started the Vietnam War (as we know it), and it was Nixon who brutally escalated the War, and perpetrated new War Crimes for many years after Vietnam had been known to be a failure (had it not been for Daniel Ellsburg, and Watergate, that War would not have been stopped either .... until the Carter administration).

So in 2000 along comes "The Project For The New American Century" Neocons, and they are now given the keys to the White House, the U.S. Military, and The CIA. And remember, Bush and Cheney are also both deeply connected with the CIA, and held the philosophy of wanting to engage in new War in the Middle-East.

So it is really pretty obvious what happened. Unlike Kennedy, when you have Neocons in power -- then these type of treasonist things do not get stopped. There is nobody who will oppose them, when the War Hawks are in charge.

Recall that President Kennedy also stopped Nuclear War with Cuba too, when Russia moved Nuclear Weapons right into Cuba.

But imagine today some President today refusing to attack a Country just 90-miles away -- even when they really truthfully had Nuclear Weapons aimed at us. It wouldn't happen today (unless Ron Paul were the President).

Funny how no one ever mentions today that Kennedy preserved the peace even under that very grave scenario (a real threat!!), and yet today totally false threats and lies are used as iron-clad justificiation (-?-) for starting Wars and perpetrating War Crimes.



hold on now!

is

"we recommend that the proposed memorandum be forwarded as a preliminary submission suitable for planning purposes"

the same a giving something a 'go'?

I'd forgotten that involved remote controlled planes though. It does show people come up with crazy plans and they can get a long way.

Great point re the 4 decades thing. I think ideas like northwoods don't just get cancelled and no-one thinks about it again. They hang around in the collective conciousness until the time is right.

Interesting all the drone tech since 911 too.

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Humans could not have flown these planes

NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As Improbable
Submitted by pfgetty on Thu, 06/24/2010 - 6:49am
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-06-24/nasa-flight-director-c...
NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"

06/22/2010 - (PilotsFor911Truth.org) Recently Pilots For 9/11 Truth have analyzed the speeds reported for the aircraft utilized on 9/11. Numerous aviation experts have voiced their concerns regarding the extremely excessive speeds reported above Maximum Operating for the 757 and 767, particularly, United and American Airlines 757/767 Captains who have actual flight time in all 4 aircraft reportedly used on 9/11. These experts state the speeds are impossible to achieve near sea level in thick air if the aircraft were a standard 757/767 as reported. Combined with the fact the airplane which was reported to strike the south tower of the World Trade Center was also producing high G Loading while turning and pulling out from a dive, the whole issue becomes incomprehensible to fathom a standard 767 can perform such maneuvers at such intense speeds exceeding Maximum Operating limits of the aircraft. Especially for those who research the topic thoroughly and have expertise in aviation.

incorrect assumption,

the reality is that the reported speeds of the planes were incorrect. Look how much of their findings are based on 'reported' facts.

Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/wtc_speed

I'm not saying it wasn't remote control planes, I have no idea exactly what happened, I'm just saying that a show being on tv about remote control planes doesn't mean exactly the same happened with 911.

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Is our radar that incorrect? Just asking here. I don't know.

Was this incorrect radar as well?:

Hani Honjour executes a 270 degree turn at 520 MPH while descending through 7,000 feet to hit the Pentagon in the exact spot where $2.3T of untrackable military funding was being investigated.

No planes, SteveMT

watch the videos ever-so-carefully; and you'll see the astonishing - there weren't any planes. It's just images.

Here is what Pilots for 9/11 truth has to say about Hani Hanjour

Top Gun flying job:

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From Pilots for 9/11 Truth:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

The last known altitude reported for AA77 was 7000 feet. And travelled 33 miles in 5 minutes. Thats 6.6 miles per minute or 396 knots (Update: FDR data shows 325 knots average airspeed. 9/11 Commission Report is inaccurate). Then the aircraft began a 330 degree spiraling dive, leveling at 2200 feet to accelerate to the Pentagon while continuing descent. He started the maneuver at 7000 feet, 396 knots, dove almost 5000 feet within a 330 degree turn and covered 5 miles in about 3 minutes. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, the final impact speed was 530 mph. Update: FDR is now available and the 9/11 report is inaccurate in terms of impact speed.

So lets take an avg speed throughout the dive of 430 knots (7 miles/min). We know a standard rate turn is 2 mins for 360 degrees. So lets say he completed the turn in just under 2 minutes. Since we don't know bank angles or speed. That means he was descending at better than 2500 fpm dropping almost 5000 feet only gaining 30 knots. No problem for guys like you and me, but for Hani? We'll get to him later...

Once this maneuver was completed, without going into a graveyard spiral, he started to pull out of the descent at 2200 feet and accelerated only 30 knots more at full power to 460 knots in a descent from 2200 feet to the pentagon in about a minute (Whats Vmo at sea level for a 757? Flap speed? Since it looks like he may have found the flap handle only accelerating 60 knots from 7000 feet, the from 2200 feet at full power). AA77 crossed the highways, knocking down light poles, entered ground effect, didn't touch the lawn and got a 44 foot high target (Tail height of 757) into a 77 foot target completely, without overshooting or bouncing off the lawn, or spreading any wreckage at 460 knots. With a 33 foot margin for error.

Wow, impressive. Takes a real steady hand to pull that off. I know it would take me a few tries to get it so precise, especially entering ground effect at those speeds. Any slight movement will put you off 50 feet very quickly. I'm sure we all would agree.

So, who pulled off this stunt?

Hani Hanjour.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

I don't have the data

but I'd think it's more likely that someone was extrapolated data incorrectly. If you have data that shows a plane flying faster and making sharper turns than possible which is more likely:

a) it's a remote controlled plane disguised as a jet liner but much faster and more manoeuvrable.

or

b) the data (or your extrapolations based on that data) is wrong.

I think b but I don't know for sure.

I think people conspire in back rooms all the time, about small things and about big things. I think people who think it's clever not to acknowledge that want to be in those back rooms. (Naming no names)

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Incorrectly once, O.K., I'd say let it go at that.

But the incorrect data and radar for at least 3 of the 4 planes? Nah, I don't buy it, but that is just me. The 4th plane/Shankesville crash wreckage was first announced that is was scattered over miles. Then 'no,' that was a mistake also. Officially, there was just one impact zone.

Do you also think that the E4Bs over the NY City and Washington were incorrect also? Why wouldn't they be on the radar? They were never officially acknowledged. One was filmed in one case, and one was reported on in the other. More mistakes, I guess. Too many mistakes to be believed as mistakes, IMO.

Ive said too much already tbh.

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This has been posted 100X here.....

BUT it can NEVER be posted enough. Were not done it until everyone "can see".

That's why everyone needs these glasses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inZUDMGJsKo

Thanks

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I've only seen it once here,

which serves to prove your point.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

There was an

X-Files episode which preceded this show. It also had an uncanny prophetic 9/11 scenario in it. I went to YouTube to try and find it and link it here - but it's nowhere to be found.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

A little more detail please.....

I remember something very important also, but can't put my finger on it. Maybe a little hit will bring it back.

Thanks

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

X-Files?

Are you sure it wasn't Lone Gunmen? The show above is Lone Gunmen

skippy

Yep

my bad.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

To the people who believe the official story about 911

Do you think it's odd that this episode aired 6 months before it happened? Do you dismiss it as just a coincidence that someone took a wild guess that some one would fly a full airplane into the WTC when nothing like this had ever happened before?

And also the timing, it wasn't 15 years before but just 6 months. It wasn't in another country, it wasn't another building.

There are much proof that the buildings were taken down by controlled demolition and an investigation with an open mind for a couple of hours will make it clear that it was done by someone in "Government", CIA or the like but a film episode like this - I believe - strongly indicates something fishy is going on and hopefully will give some "newcomers" the impetus to do some investigation themselves.

Many people may think that they wouldn't expose themselves like this, but this is EXACTLY how they always do it. This is the blueprint, for some reason they love to show off their acts before the event or maybe it is some "reverse psychology" trick because they know people don't know how powerful these people are and therefore will never believe they would expose themselves like this?

Maybe they hope to say

that terrorists copied the TV show.