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Vote Ron Paul in 2016, Obama in 2012 to keep Mitt out

To ensure that Ron Paul has a chance to run again in a GOP Primary, vote for Obama to keep Mitt from winning in 2012. If Mitt wins then he will automatically be the 2016 GOP Nominee and our movement won't advance.

We grow by leaps and bounds each time there is a GOP Primary.



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Final Thoughts

Like it or not, we are all going to have to do one of 5 things. Each of them have their pros and cons.

1. Vote for Obama
2. Vote for Romney
3. Vote for Johnson
4. Write in Ron Paul
5. Not Vote

Honestly none of those 5 are really good. They make an effort to do something positive but also allow something bad to happen.

Even the anarchists can't escape falling into one of those 5 scenarios. Their knee jerk is to try to escape scenarios put in front of them, well they can't escape it this time. They do nothing they are automatically #5.

I do believe that option #1 is best for the Daily Paul since it forces a GOP primary in 2016. No the Daily Paul is not the end all be all of life but since we are all here, it is at least something we can rally behind.

I suggest that the decision to anyone selecting any one of those 5 should not be held against the person, considering the situation we are in.

Final reminder, this is purely a general election scenario based on Mitt winning the nomination. I and all of you would be very happy to see a different result.

4 more years of this..

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

and then get Hillary Clinton.
I don't normally berate people here..but you'r a fool.

1. Ron Paul
2. Liberty candidate.
3. Anyone but obombya/romney
4. Withhold your vote.

Be careful what you vote for..you might just get it.
Just say no to tyranny, no matter what color it comes in.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

But...

..we "need" Slick Willard to appoint more "conservative" members to the court like -- like -- uh -- John Roberts who will stand up against Federal Romneycare.

Wait...

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a novel of another america
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How many times

are you going to post this same pro-Obombya rubbish.

http://www.dailypaul.com/241871/vote-ron-paul-in-2016-obama-...

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

He's going to keep doing it

He's going to keep doing it and then call people like me deceptive and a liar for calling him out. Hey Knight, do you remember that? You called me a liar for saying this same type of post died. It has over 100 downvotes. The last two have been downvoted to oblivion too. Then you go around making personal attacks. If somebody says its a stupid idea you come back and say, "you're stupid". If one says troll you say troll, they say go away you say go away. I went through a few threads and found this to be a pattern of yours. You're not clever enough to come up with any original responses. All regurgitated nonsense and the now famous, " but if you do that you let mitt win." Seen that one at least twenty times. I did see you make an original post however, inviting people to this mega online role playing game thing. Then it dawned on me. The reason you speak to people the way you do here and why you're so combative and argumentative is because you're a social outcast that lacks the social skills to communicate in a mature fashion. Cats outta the bag. So when I said that the previous thread died for a reason you called me a liar. Then I tell you the reason was because the idea sucked and you continued. Well, clearly the folks around here think the idea does indeed suck and that's why it keeps getting diwnvoted and you repost it. So, proof that I didn't lie and that you are...well, I'll keep it nice.

voting down does not kill a post you idiot

Big deal so there's a number showing a negative number. OMG OMG!

You think that it's binding? Do you not get the concept of a straw vote having absolutely none whatsoever?

An active thread is where people are still posting because they have something to say. And each time i posted it was active until a new post by someone (me or others) replaced it.

Ugh....you're still here?

Ugh....you're still here?

god you are so stupid

oh wow I voted you down. LOL

Whatever it takes

To stop Mitt and give us a 2016 GOP Primary. How many times do I have to say it, Mitt and Obama are the same but Mitt is twice as bad because he will not only be a bad president, he also blocks us from our 2016 GOP Primary.

You Mitt lover.

LOL

In another term of Obama, he'll straight up start assassinating Americans on the spot, achieve complete bankruptcy for the US, and destroy half the population with his drones in a desperate attempt to stay in power, Not to bash this post but you need to be in the moment, and that moment is getting Ron Paul into the White house,

RON PAUL 2012!

so would Mitt

did you not catch the part he said he'd sign NDAA into law?

Mitt is twice as bad as Obama. Not only would he be a bad president he'd also block us from a 2016 GOP Primary.

GOP Primaries are the only place we make our mark.

Both who lack the consience, can do same destructive damage

have you noticed it gets worse with every president, doesnt matter who it is, the ones who lack a conscience have full spectrum of violence and mayhem to use on the population

exactly

But we have a real, bona fide plan to fix this in 2016 in the GOP Primary, but if and only if Mitt loses. Otherwise we're blocked before we can even begin it.

While I understand the logic,

While I understand the logic, voting for Obama is a gross compromise of principles. I will not support such an awful candidate. Also, I doubt Ron Paul runs again, and either way, the movement really needs to focus on getting candidates elected to Congress and local/state office. Even if Ron Paul was elected president, he would be limited in what he could do with only a couple allies on Capitol Hill

The principle is

That only Ron Paul is a real choice for president.

So we can use obama to get a Ron Paul campaign in 4 years instead of 8.

Considering his age this is the only option. It's either this or we put our faith in Rand but still 4 years is better than 8.

"...put our faith in..."

Better yet, you could remove your faith from politics entirely. Start building alternatives to the state.

Government is not a friend of liberty, and it's not a useful tool (except to your enemies). Like the Ring, it can't be practically wielded in a responsible manner. It must be cast away.

'The Anarchists are simply unterrified Jeffersonian Democrats. They believe that “the best government is that which governs least,” and that which governs least is no government at all.'
-Benjamin Tucker

This has been suggested before..

and the answer is still a resounding NO! You are troll or traitor. Get out of here because we're not hearing you.........NO ONE BUT RON PAUL 2012!!! Go delegates, go!! We support you, we love you, we are standing by you!!! Never give up!

you are the traitor!

You want to deny our movement a chance to vote for Ron Paul in 2016 by letting Mitt win!

GET OUT OF HERE

Ron Paul will not run again

Ron Paul will not run again in 2016 unless he wins in 2012. You are kidding yourself if you think he wants to burden himself with another all out campaign in 4 years after putting so much effort into this one. The man will be 80 years old and if his age wasn't a factor now to many people(which it is) it most certainly will be in 2016.

Yet another Obama troll insisting we vote for Obama to stop Mitt. What you forget is that Romney can't win without us anyway. So as long as we don't vote for Mitt and vote by either writing in Ron Paul or a third party Mitt loses.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

The Supremes

Four Supreme Court justices are getting up in years. If Obama gets to pick them; imagine four Ginsbergs. It wouldn't then matter who the president is in 2016.

And who would Mitt pick

A bunch of John Roberts justices. Who support his Romneycare.

That guy was a Bush appointee.

Makes no difference obama and mitt are the same. But mitt is twice as bad because he'd not only be a bad president he'd also block us from a GOP Primary in 2016.

Naaa

If RP isn't running I'm opting out. I may be a slave but at least I don't have to participate in selecting a master to rule over me.......yet. If delegates don't rise up in Tampa and demand Ron Paul then it's all over. This regime will not continue with even the pretense of constitutional government. I'm sure a new false flag op is being engineered right now since 9/11 worked so well. This time I'm sure it will be carried out by "Christian extremists".

Stay United

Supporting Ron Paul all the way means to write-in his name. It means making no other choice, no matter what. We can still have a loud voice and make a statement heard around the world with our unanimous undivided write-in vote! Write-in votes may not officially count in every state, like it does in mine, but write-ins are always noticed and commented on by the media and the GOP will certainly know we mean what we say and are here to stay! There are no other options, that can have a bigger impact than doing this. If the delegates or L4RP fail, it will be either The Tyrant or Romney-more-of-the-same. Dividing our vote will only mitigate the impact that is ours for the taking, win or lose, our choice, our President is still RON PAUL! Together it will be a shot heard around the world!

Windisea

that's a waste of time

take your pick, a write in vote that won't be counted, or a 2016 GOP Primary.

Politics is a waste of time. Period.

RP never thought he would become president. He just wants to spread libertarianism. He's admitted that his ultimate goal is voluntaryism anyways. So get off the political train, and read up on stateless alternatives to government.

'The Anarchists are simply unterrified Jeffersonian Democrats. They believe that “the best government is that which governs least,” and that which governs least is no government at all.'
-Benjamin Tucker

You are a slave with a chance for freedom in 4 years or 8

And if you don't pick 4 you automatically get 8.

I'll take 4.

There are no more

Ron Pauls on the horizon. And sorry, some Neocon from the GOP rather than a Neocon out of the Democratic party is just another overseer on the plantation.
And please don't bring up Gary Johnson.

Ron can run in 2016

He was already planning to go for 2 terms starting in 2012.

Then he'll go for 1 term in 2016.

NO!

NO!

then you will let Mitt win

and we not only get a bad president we also get blocked from a 2016 GOP Primary.

Twice as bad as obama.