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Ron Paul Supporters Know US History

It is in my experience that Ron Paul supporters know US history. Unfortunately, most outsiders (who are often ignorant on US history), are willfully ignorant to how well Ron Paul supporters know their stuff. I know I have been schooled a few times myself here in the DP. I also know there are studies to show that viewers of certain news programs have varying levels of Historical and Current knowledge. For instance, FOX news viewers have been shown to possess the lowest level of knowledge on current events. Is there any way to get it put on record a cross comparison of an individual's political beliefs and their level of historical knowledge. I'd be interested to see just how well RP supporters fair compared to the rest of the country.

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GREAT BOOKS!

To read a little founding History in a well written plain format check out American Creation, Triumphs and Tragedies at The Founding of the Republic by Joseph Ellis: ISBN978-0-307-26369-8. He also has a book The Founding Brothers. Both really great reads. Audio book of both online...

T.Rogers

But then there are plenty of

But then there are plenty of moron Ron Paul supporters who not only don't know US history, but don't know common sense.

Case in point: SchnauzerGuardian's moronic suggestion of making a motion at the convention saying that Romney is not qualified to be president because he is not a natural born citizen.

As if somehow Michigan is not part of the US?

SchnauzerGuardian is an idiot who doesn't even realize that the term natural born citizen does NOT mean that both your parents must be born in the US as well.

Romney isn't a natural born

Romney isn't a natural born citizen. His father was too proud and arrogant to become a naturalized citizen - his father was born in Mexico to parents who gave up their citizenship, and it's one of the things that sank his run in 68, because it came up. Someone even put it in the congressional record in 1968. Romney's father is the original Obama.

Since his father was a Mexican citizen, Romney wasn't under the jurisdiction of the United States - anymore then a native person not part of the US is, or a diplomat's son, and inherits Mexican citizenship from his father.

Romney will naturally deny this just like Obama does.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I had read this in many

I had read this in many places. I haven't seen anything to back it yet. Do you have copies of documents pertaining to Romney's parents?
I do remember when his father ran, and it does seem that it was something of joke because he wasn't a citizen.
Neither would his mother have been a citizen when he was born.
He isn't qualified. He would still be a citizen of Mexico.
It's possible that Mittwit isn't a citizen.

If his parents ever became citizens, there must be documentation. If there is none, it's time for Romney to go home before he is prosecuted for election crimes in 50 states and a few territories.

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Here is support of what you wrote. Reuters.com news.

Yes, there is definitive proof that backs up what you wrote.
Romney's birth certificate evokes his father's controversy By Mark Hosenball

WASHINGTON | Tue May 29, 2012

(Reuters) - Finally, there is definitive proof: The presidential candidate was born in the United States, and his father was not.

[Mentions the Congressional record entry about George Romney's foreign birth & questionable US Presidential eligibility.]

By May 1967, U.S. congressman Emmanuel Celler, a Democrat who chaired the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, was expressing "serious doubts" about George Romney's eligibility.

The next month, another Democratic congressman inserted a lengthy treatise into the Congressional Record in which a government lawyer - writing in a "personal capacity" - argued that George Romney was ineligible for the White House because he was born outside U.S. territory.

Willard Mitt Romney's Certificate of Live birth (short form) dated Jan. 18, 2012 released to Reuters by his campaign.
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No mention of grandparents relinquishing their US Citizenship.

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I have a copy someplace of

I have a copy someplace of someone posting the congressional record and links from the 68 race. I'll find in a few days and post.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

George Romney, was born into a polygamist colony in Mexico.

Here is help for your search.

Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, was born into a polygamist colony in Mexico.

Romney's great grandfather, Miles Park Romney, fled to Mexico after the 1882 passing of the Edmund Act, which banned polygamy in the US. He married his fifth wife after the Mormon church formally banned the practice in 1890

The Romneys were some of the first Mormons to settle in the border state of Chihuahua, according to the AP. But, when the Mexican Revolution hit Chihuahua in 1912, the Romneys, including Mitt's father, who was 5, fled back into the US . . .

After the revolution, Mitt's grandfather, Gaskell Romney, remained in the US with his five children, but his brother, Miles Archibold Romney, returned to Mexico.

Today, the 40 Mexican Romneys live in solid brick homes in Colonia Juarez, some 190 miles from El Paso, Texas. According to the Daily Mail, the Mormons of northern Mexico don't practice polygamy, as the Mormon church officially banned the practice in 1890.

"It is a very open community, where we have been progressive, and we have shaped a life for ourselves, our children, that we think is a healthy life," Leighton Romney told the AP.

read: http://www.GlobalPost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/uni...

also see: http://www.ChicagoTribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-ca...

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but but but don't you know

but but but don't you know that before the Dept of Education people couldnt even READ? that that that before there was a federal reserve we used beads and shiny rocks to trade for pelts and arrowheads? before the dept of agriculture exists we ate worms!

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No doubt. We have studies.

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DailyPaul discussion on related matters: http://www.dailypaul.com/187634/hardballss-chris-matthews-sa... Submitted by emalvini, 11/16/2011.

More generally: [Man] "He has just one stupendous superiority. In his intellect he is supreme. The Higher Animals cannot touch him there. It is curious, it is noteworthy, that no heaven has ever been offered him wherein his one sole superiority was provided with a chance to enjoy itself. Even when he himself has imagined a heaven, he has never made provision in it for intellectual joys. It is a striking omission. It seems a tacit confession that heavens are provided for the Higher Animals alone. This is matter for thought; and for serious thought. And it is full of a grim suggestion: that we are not as important, perhaps as we had all along supposed we were." - "The Lowest Animal" [Man] by Mark Twain

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Ignorance Has Always Been A Tool of Slavery

We who regularly meet here at the tavern of liberty do so because we are open-minded. Nobody leads us around by the nose. We are curious, skeptical and question the dogma of political dilation. We have better than average memories either as individuals or as a collective body of knowledge. We place a great deal of worth in factual historical writings on topics such as: economics, monetary mechanics, foreign policy and the dangers of fascism. We are not passive like flotsam drifting on the oceans of daily life but actively engage in meaningful discourse.

Unfortunately the general populace cannot be bothered with historical facts. They are too self-indulgent with the minutia of social capriciousness and its pale bliss. The people sail on stormy seas and do not look to the lighthouse warning them of what is to come. For them, freedom and liberty are nebulous concepts, providing no entertainment, no visceral titillation, no opportunity for profit. To be free from the clutches of government cannot be appreciated by the masses for independence is lost upon them. They are born into the matrix of odious subordination, incurious to the feeling of exhilaration that free men and women experience when standing naked away from their brethren who wear heavy coats of mail made from regulatory shackles. It is difficult to educate the illiterate on something that is not tangible to their five senses.

They say, “To what benefit is it to me to be free when government will provide for my welfare?” or “We need others cloaked in uniforms to keep us from harm for we are unable to protect ourselves.” These are the people who place their trust in government for a price. A cost not only of material wealth but an expense of something greater, their natural rights as human beings.

When a man or woman gives up their self-autonomy to the politico, they form a contract with the government. That indenture is a living python, a beast that slowly strangles the life-force of liberty from their unsuspecting soul and turns them into the living dead. The State eventually becomes an astrophysical black hole and collapses into itself.

The deciders of policy are not who they present themselves to be to the public. The overlords are in authority because power is an evil of consumptive energy that conquers even the most well-meaning leader. The concept, ‘to serve them’ becomes ‘to master them’. They inherently lie, deceive, coerce and misrepresent their constituency thru propaganda, fear and the theft of their prosperity in the form of monetary inflation.

I fear the country will not turn around for the better but will continue to plod along with right after right leaking away into historical oblivion. The people will be left with little capital, a mountain of debt and their dignity lost. Their voluntary servitude will eventually become involuntary and then they’ll wonder what the thirteenth amendment was all about.

While I am glad this post is getting some views

I was hoping to begin devising an actual study. I am having trouble figuring out a way to test people's knowledge without allowing them to "cheat" by using the internet, or other sources to find the answers. The only way I can think of right now is to have an actual door to door survey where people were asked questions directly, without any outside help.

Talk to people

I'll ask people funny questions at work...dont try and be a know it all....and dont try to prove a point or be right...just get people talking. I I actually will post a note at work that I will bring donuts in if the questions below are answered...it gets people to look it up. I dont care to prove we are more educated, i am more interested it educating more people.

T.Rogers

Don't be silly,

Only Newt Gingrich supporters know US history well enough to mention...

/sarcasm

Industrial history is the history of America

You can learn a lot by reading a book like Lee Iacocca's that is really more of a biography of the early Ford and 80's Chrysler companies than of the man himself.

It's amazing to think how much better the 'history' of this country would have been had we not shipped all our factories and technology overseas.

One sad example you might not have heard about unless you follow technology in depth, but Bush set the solar industry back 20 years when he made a deal with the Sunarians to provide sunlight and then sent a payment of 8.2 billion dollars in Fed notes which burned up 3.1 million miles away from the sun.

Could have put all that into carbon nanotube research.

"Damn the pandas, full steam ahead"

-Admiral David Farragut

$8 billion in nanotubes?

Seems a mighty price for such a small item.

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They each come wrapped separately.

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"Damn the pandas, full steam ahead"

-Admiral David Farragut

As a National Park Ranger...

Yes. lol. I know my American History and I love communicating with all of you here on the DP that do as well.

Never stop learning!

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

What Park Will?

Be good for folks to know there are patriots working in their home park...

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Colonial Nat'l Historic Park

And just to be clear my personal comments here on the DP are my own and not those of the NPS. (Unfortunately I feel the need to clarify this).

I'd also say that there are quite a few like minded rangers out there. Those of us that work for the Feds know what it needs even more clearly than all the hard working private sector folks.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

I love the National Parks.

A big learning venue for us homeschoolers.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

And we love the homeschoolers!

Or at least most of us do. I'll probably end up schooling my kids or sending them to a private school. Public isn't what it used to be in big city areas. Fortunately I was in a rural location while growing up at our single public school.

Most parks will allow you in for no cost provided you are engaged in an educational trip. Just call ahead or check with us at the desk.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart