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Adam Kokesh Smoking DMT

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Adam said DMT "It was like living in a tie-dye bubble"



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Classical liberalism doesn't have anything to do with morality.

It's a civics ideology, not an ethics ideology. By your narrow definition of libertarianism, Ron Paul is NOT a libertarian. There are things that he personally feels are immoral that don't have anything to do with hurting, insulting, or being rude to anyone.

So smoking DMT IS immoral?

Or our society just THInkS it's Immoral? Just wondering. What if he were licking toads, snorting yuape, (sp) or shoving strange roots in his Arse for that matter? YOUR AND SOCIeTIES morals need to end before someone else's lips or rectums. Keep out, head in your own kiester is fine, but not mine.@)

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I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility to every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

As long as there's a welfare state, a nanny gov't, and universal

"emergency room" healthcare coverage yes -- either the public will feel entitled to have the "moral" conversation or owing to voting-lobbying they can "try" force people to cover their own healthcare or to grant authority to LE's to bust down your door and take charge themselves.

Yes it is immoral to take chances with one's health if it's possible to foister the responsibility of your recover on other's.

In a free-society morality is a moot issue -- it's only an issue when there's corruption at all levels.

How many hot topics on DP would be non-issues in a free-society?

I would argue almost all of them.

We'd be focused on innovation and entrepreneurial development, right?

Under Group-Think people get into each other's business -- that is the point of voting and lobbying; to circumvent consumer-sovereignty.

In a free-society no one would care and because so people would not take as many chances with their health.

"Yes it is immoral to take

"Yes it is immoral to take chances with one's health if it's possible to foister the responsibility of your recover on other's."

So then if I have private insurance it's okay, right?

There's no such thing as "private" under corporatism

That's the point.

Private Insurance Agencies operate or receive:
1) Gov't Subsidization
2) Tax Loopholes
3) Competitive Barriers
4) Price Fixing
....and the list goes on and on.

They lobby, they influence voting -- they "participate" in a mixed economy in non-market modalities -OR- consumer circumvention.

Since there is no "private"

Can I come to your house and take your stuff?

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

In a free-society it would be my responsibility to protect it

not the gov't.

So yes -- you could try.

It's "possession" in a free-society

Under Capitalism, Socialism, Marxism, and even a Dictatorship there is a 1st-Order-Owner (Gov't - Dictator) -- they have the "right" to steal, kidnap, torture, and murder. The 2nd-Order-Owner is the individual -- he had limitations on protecting his "property" therefore he's not the "primary" owner. He can seek "revenge" throuhg the vehicles the Force-Agencies allow.

Right = Might (as is always the case for absolutist positions)

In a free-society there is NO Force-Agency (Gov't or Dictator) and no 1st or 2nd Order "owners" -- There are ONLY "possessors"

If (IF) you can keep it then you can keep it.

This puts INNOVATION strategy for home-defense and possession-protection on the individual -- who will likely move into a housing collective that protects each others possessions via private security and improvised tactics.

Under Corporatism the answer is "yes" you can come take my stuff (physically) but then you can also (if caught) go rot in jail and lose a $fine that is probably greater than the property you stole (or work it off in hard labor in prison).

Privacy

When one makes their spitituality public, the tax man comes to take it away.

The experience of self gratification becomes immoral when it is made public because it's personal, something you share with willing partners, others who are close to you.

Exposing your spiritual endeavors, also exposes your weaknesses, and gives your enemies fuel to destroy you, spiritually.

What GOOD is this?

RESPECT YOURSELF.

I want to start by saying I

I want to start by saying I have never partaken of DMT or the legally obtainable ayahuasca that shamans have used throughout the ages. However, I can't believe the level of closed-mindedness I witness each time I log onto this site. Just because a person appears "stupid" to you in the moment, in your little context, doesn't make it so. They are on another plane you are obviously likely never to see until you are dead or become more open minded. If you were there you would understand the ineffable, and would know that some things can not pass through the translation of language. By acting so smart you are showing those knowledgeable your own ignorance. This isnt mumbo jumbo, do it once and you will KNOW. Certainly healthier than a number of things Americans eat during the average day.

Granted, the 2 yippies Adam was with annoyed the heck out of me, and probably weren't the best spokesmen for ANYTHING, or at least anything I'd like to be involved with. Adam, however, showed a bit of courage trying something that would probably make many of you piss yourselves thinking about. Your own fear and inhibitions are a large component of why you mock Adam's CHOICE, whether you realize it or not.

I try to be fair and objective and I hope folks can see and appreciate this. When the government finally allowed it, Dr Rick Strassman did an amazing study on DMT, and later wrote the book, DMT: The Spirit Molecule. http://www.rickstrassman.com/index.php?option=com_content&vi... There is also a documentary by the same name on hulu, if anyone wishes to watch it. Unfortunately it has Joe Rogan in it, but I guess the movement is targeting the future and not wasting time on what objectively may be seen as dead weight. Hey, I call it like I see it. The older someone gets, the harder it becomes for them to think in new ways. This thread is proof of it. Although some on here who disagree with my words are assuredly younger than me, and much like I once was.

Well said, brother!

DMT is cool and a nice experience, but it's not gonna make you enlightened or any such nonsense. I don't know why people are making such a big deal about it. Let's put up a video of Adam eating a steak and get some vegans on here whining about the immorality of it. For Christ's sake. People need to chill.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

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@analogbrain41 Well Ron Paul

@analogbrain41

Well Ron Paul does want to legalize all drugs so... whats wrong with having a conversation related to a part of his platform? Or have we all at the Daily Paul succumbed to the demagoguing that goes on about drugs.

Although I haven't tried them, I like reading about psychedelics and have listened to many Terrance McKenna talks... one of my favorite thoughts of his went something like this:

"If from our consciousness comes imagination, and from our imagination comes everything we've ever made or invented... then why is there a war on the expansion of consciousness?"

people need to lighten up.

Why is this even posted here?

What's next, Adam Kokesh's guide to his favorite porn sites? I mean, what does this have to do with us on a Ron Paul blog?

Is it b/c Ron Paul sees the stupidity in wasting government resources and growing the police state to stop people from getting their jollies in stupid ways since they will anyway?

I guess this video does prove that; see, ol' Adam lived to see another day of being himself, the goofball atheist who can somehow have a spiritual ol' time hallucinating, and NO ONE ELSE WAS HARMED in the making of this video,

unless you watched it. That may have cost you a few brain cells.

uncommon sense

Sometimes I think

certain individualsr want the movement to fail. So they act passive-aggressive, adn post things like this to the site. In their mind, they're "helping", even if they also know it's harmful.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

JoeDanger -- So the person who "vettes" potential

liberty candidate for possible shinanagans is the bad-guy.

Remember that flier or brochure that left the Paul camp back in the 80's or 90's that had all the racist commentary -- remember how it came out of Paul's camp and when asked RP said that he was too busy to vette out every newsletter.

Remember how he had to face racist allegations, what 20 times in 2008 and again in 2010, even though he did not write the material, do you remember that vetting error?

RP endorsed Kokesh

I spent 7mins in 2010 when Kokesh was running for senate and found a side-site of Kokesh where he had a Poster (that HE created) that had the Pope and a Swastika on his forehead.

7mins of effort.

I pointed it out here on DP and I was castigated by a few of you for doing so -- I saved Kokesh Team a lot of embarrasment.

So -- why am I the bad guy here -- don't create motives just ask me how I feel about heroworship -- how disappointing and dangerous it is.

Let Kokesh be the good or bad guy based on merit -- don't scorn the vetter man.

so you think

it's sabotage? that would almost make more sense.

That or a single issue voter (legalize it) clinger on to the movement thought this was relevant. I agree with the policy, and have tried some things in my own life (substances) but common. Like, why not post a video of Kokesh doing a keg stand and passing out after puking? Seems just as timely...smh

I'm just really tired of this Kokesh dude lately

uncommon sense

And this is the sort of thing

that makes the majority of people not even consider Ron Paul. Sure, you have the right to do things like this, but when you put it up on the Daily PAUL, it is automatically connected to Ron PAUL. Please focus on logic and reason, not "mind-expanding" drivel.

While were at it

lets get rid the constant Bilderberg conspiracy paranoia. That makes people not consider Ron Paul and has nothing to do with the Daily Paul too.

Irrelevant...

This post is irrelevant to the stated purposes of this website...

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

Is That Also You OctoBox, In The Video?

A good lesson on how to destroy a persons reputation.

Why don't you substitute Mr. Romney, in your video, for Mr. Kokesh, if you want to use your destructive powers effectively !

beesting

Beesting -- how unkindly you stung, at my heart.

Adam is living off of (has her fan-base because of) Ron Paul.

Ron Paul gave him his endorsement.

Ron Paul gave Lew Rockwell the responsibility to vette out his material and someone (most believe it to have been Rockwell) sent out racist material under Ron Paul's banner.

In 2008 and '10 -- RP had to face embarrassing questions and his only defense was that he did not have time to vette out the material that went out under his name.

I spent 7mins in 2010 vetting Kokesh while every SINGLE person on DP and other RP Fan sites was singing Kokesh' praise.

7mins and I found Kokesh art work of the Pope with a swastika on his forehead -- Kokesh who was running for senate out of Santa Fe -- you know the place with all the Catholics.

The above video is Kokesh -- He posted it on HIS OWN Youtube page; I just reposted it here with out one word of censor in the OP Thread.

No (of course) I'm not in that video.

I don't have a problem with peope using drugs for medical or spiritual means -- Kokesh probably has PTSD and is seeking alternative medicine.

The "negatives" in the video are what people draw -- I'm just vetting Liberty-money-Making people.

Thankfully the sound of your "bleeting" is muffled by your head being burried in the sand.

STOP saying that RP sent out racist material

As I have blogged here many times, taken each sentence by sentence, there was NOTHING racist about it.

If you want to have that dialog, then seek out my threads on that.

But STOP saying they were racists, they were certainly NOT racist.

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When did I say that RP sent out anything -- I said it was "his people"

And when did "I say" (as in certify) that they were indeed racist -- I'm just talking about what Ron has had to face, owing to material that MOST consider to be racist or at least highly insensitive.

The comments were locker-room worth not the type of commentary that should be attached to a man of liberty.

Ask me what "my opinion" is don't come up with one for me then take the opposite stance.

Also, you are arguing, not from logic, but by the authority of your "racist" certifying ability -- "...I have blogged....sentence by sentence, there was NOTHING racist about it."

You are insensitive my friend:
---Slavery
---Black Codes
---Lynch Mobs (roughly 1000 lynching per year for around 20 to 30 years) -- Just enough to keep people terrified
---Prison Slave System
---Welfarism
---War on Drugs

Ron Paul has talked about the latter three as being the greatest impediments to African American's moving forward.

There's no room in political dialogue (from a "civil servant") for insensitive locker-room worthy material.

My POINT Treg and you can see it clearly -- Is that if RP actually "endorses" you then you must maintain an appropriate public image.

Kokesh sparking DMT is not the path to liberty man.

Ron Paul supports Hemp Legalization and wants the Marijuana issue decided by the States -- He is NOT in favor of recreational drug use as an individual; he has stated that drugs are dangerous, but doesn't want the Nanny State to imprison people will medical qualifications.

This is obvious man stop splitting hairs bro.

Kokesh was arguing that Jack Hunter is "out" of the Liberty Movement -- Who is Kokesh to make those types of absolutist statements, when his house is not in order?

Kokesh' Pope-with-Swastika on forehead poster (that he made) -- You think that represents the "Good Doctor"?

Kokesh has a "voice" because of the rEVOLution and not for any other reason -- there's a responsibility there.

Adam can do what he wants

but in my opinion, he shouldn't have released this video until after the convention.. and at the very least he shouldn't have released it with links to his show, Adam vs. The Man.

Sooooo, he probably wont be

Sooooo, he probably wont be running for congress, huh?

Another great Kokesh Moment.

What a wonderful asset to the Ron Paul campaign and the cause of Liberty. If anyone ever needs direction on an issue, do the opposite of Adam. If anyone wonders what is going on within the campaign, imagine the opposite of whatever it is spewing from Adams filthy potty mouth.

Thanks for being our immoral compass Adam. Your unprofessional douchebaggery has been very helpful for those trying to put it all together.

P.s. I don't care what you, he or anyone else smokes. Just don't attach it to a presidential campaign. Not very professional...or indicative of someone who cares.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

Who cares........one way or

Who cares........one way or the other. I got better things to do then to watch some Adam Kokesh "reality" moment. He could team up with Ozzie Osborne for a TV program....to be watched by bored, stupid and clueless people.

As someone who use to live in

As someone who use to live in a hippy downtown area - and all that should imply, a lot of former users keep saying they have personally experienced the reason taking drugs is bad.

There is a lot cooler things to do. Usefully, with all the information online that you couldn't get years ago, there is doing research and finding out things no one else knows.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Which would you choose to to

Which would you choose to to benefit your health the most?
Salt
Sugar
H.F. Corn Syrup
Tobacco
Alcohol
or a natural occurring substance that is in all human brains and most plants/organisms (DMT)

Also, I've never met (at least among my crowds) anyone who simply takes dmt because it's "cool".. To each their own.. If you find your spirituality in a bible that was approved 1600 years after the fact that is fine.. If I find it by drinking a brew with natural substances, where is the wrong in that?

"One man with courage is a majority." ~ Andrew Jackson

Actually..

I believe the book of 1 Corinthians is documented to have been written only 15 years after Christ's death.... That'a a fact. finding spirituality in a bottle compared to the Bible? C'mon...please