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"Independence Day" vs "4th of July"?

I was just sitting here thinking about this and thought I'd throw it up for discussion...

The holiday is "Independence Day" to celebrate our independence from Great Britain (and any other would be oppressors). It is just celebrated on the "Fourth of July".

Referring to it as "4th of July" kind of strips the meaning away, don't you think? Like Cinco de Mayo has just turned into celebrating some date on the calendar, nobody even remembers why they are celebrating.

Anyway, the way things are going, this just might be one of the last "Independence Days", in the future we may just be celebrating the "4th of July".

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Yes, they do that on

Yes, they do that on purpose.

This came out specifically during a George Bush Sr speech for the NWO back in the early 90s, where he said we should stop celebrating independence day and celebrate interdependence day.

There are also other examples.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

We've lost touch with our history

I watched an MLB ballgame last night on TV. Not once during the entire broadcast was Independence Day mentioned, it was always the 4th of July or July 4th. The ball club also designated the night as "Military Appreciation Night". Now I'm all for honoring those who currently serve in our Armed Forces, but that is not what Independence Day is all about (nor Memorial Day or Veterans Day for that matter). See my post at:

I prefer to call is Secession

I prefer to call it Secession Day.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

And we will have another Indepence day coming soon

Independence from a Central Bank!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

The trully sad thing is

That we didn't even truly have our independence until 1783 and not 1776 like most people seem to remember.

The Treaty of Paris folks:

Yes indeed, 9 years of bloody warfare, many battles of which are lost to most Americans' memory.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

While Britian did not officially recognize our independence

until then, We count from 1776 because the idea was that the Declaration is what marked the separation, not winning the war. (and technically, we didn't win. They capitulated and went home to fight France. We didn't take over the British Crown)

It was the first act of Independence and since history didn't end differently, The victors got to write that we were independent from this moment forward. Truly, though it took the Crown another 7 years to officially agree, we acted and in all respects were independent from the point of the Declaration onward.

This clip is from last year.

It should make you feel like crying.

Formerly rprevolutionist