How do you wake up a Socialist?Submitted by beatrixkiddo on Wed, 07/04/2012 - 13:11
This seemed like the best forum to start this question in. So here it is, how do you get through to someone who is totally brainwashed by socialism?
I recently went back home for a weekend (From NY back to CT), and caught up with some friends I don't get to see as often anymore. We just got to catch up and hangout around a fire with some beers. Anyway, at some point one of my friends brings up the topic of obamacare and how he's so pumped about the ruling on the mandate. Of course this leads to an long political discussion in which we just completely disagree with each other (I know we broke the cardinal rule of the 3 things your never talk about in polite company Religion, Politics, and Sex).
He believes that the state/ fed. government should have the power to regulate and monopolize anything pertaining to 'human survival'. He believes everyone should get free electricity, free markets don't work, Our economy is fine, etc. He tends to be the type of person who talks and talks and never stops, so it gets hard to get through to him my points which gets terribly frustrating after awhile as you feel you get nowhere.
In the end I think he was more annoyed and upset with me and the majority of the people there for not accepting socialist ideas, I could have cared less what he truly believes in and I'm not one to get annoyed with others for holding different values from me. I wanted to tell him that how he felt is a perfect example of why socialism and any other collectivist ideas don't work, because you believe in a society where everyone must comply with the rule of a handful of people to so called "benefit" everyone as a whole. Which is the underlying problem; There is no room for the individual, therefore you are always going to sacrifice the interests in which many people want to live their own lives. People will be giving up more freedoms to satisfy the wishes of others, living less meaningful and worthwhile lives. This also only leads to tyranny and more government coercion, and in the end the downfall to that civilization. Unless of course you live in some utopia where everyone wants the same exact things as each other. I wish I said it to him as the thought raced across my mind, but I didn't think it would make him anymore likely to open up to my libertarian philosophy. I didn't want to get into a pissing contest.
So my question to the DP is how do any of you guy's and ladies here break through to some of your best friends whom are so adamantly in support of beliefs contradictory to your own? This by the way is a friend I grew up with, and more astonishing is a History grad! (face palm). I still consider him one of my best friends,but I fear the day will come where if we go on living our lives to the philosophies we believe in that this friendship will be doomed. I just wish I knew of some way to break through to him and show him the light.