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Candidate Gary Johnson, Is On The Government Dole AGAIN~

Not only does Johnson run his campaign in serious debt, (THE TRADEMARK OF A LIBERAL)~ now he collects TAXPAYER funding to keep it afloat.

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If it is from WILLING taxpayers

then why doesn't it affect your return? And why isn't there a box that says "NO"? What's to keep someone else from checking the box for you? If it doesn't affect your return then does that money just appear out of thin air?

That check box is a scam.

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This isnt about what sheep GIVE by way of tax refund, this is about who is ACCEPTING it and reasons why. The Johnson campaign is in serious debt and this funding does not bring it even.
That is a LOSING strategy and speaks volumes to how US financials will be run.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

There is a box you check if

There is a box you check if you want money to go towards the presidential election campaign. If you don't you leave it blank.

Do a modicum of homework and you'd answer your own question.

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension.

Go look at your stinking return smart asss. You have no way to decline, you can only check yes or leave it blank!!!! And even if you do check YES the money isn't taken out of your return so YOU are not donating it!!!!! And what is to keep someone else from just checking it for you after you have sent it since there is now way to DECLINE????

Now you go do a MODICUM of homework and get back to me.

Your question was, "Why isn't

Your question was, "Why isn't there a box that says 'no?'"

Go look at a 1040 and you'll see you vote no by leaving it blank. That is how you decline. This isn't complicated (for most people anyway.)

Thanks for

not even attempting to address what I am talking about. You are not donating your money if you check that box. Why can't you understand that? The money doesn't come out of your return so you are not donating your money. And there is nothing to stop someone down the line from checking the box for you if you leave it blank and that is why they don't give you a "NO" option or take it directly from your return, so you have no way of knowing or disputing.

Me thinks you are purposefully being obtuse to my argument just to toy with me. I hate to think you are really that, uh, way.

No, you asked a direct

No, you asked a direct question and I gave a direct answer. You don't like the answer, no matter how factual, that's obvious.

So now you're moving onto a different question and in effect asking, "Where does this money come from since it doesn't affect your return?"

I don't know exactly except to say it stands to reason it comes from funds which have previously been collected since it doesn't affect one's return. If you are that concerned drop a short note to your local IRS office and ask them about the $3. This will take you a whopping three minutes of your time and you'll have an answer.

"And there is nothing to stop someone down the line from checking the box for you"

If you're that paranoid it wouldn't matter if there was a "no" box as there would be nothing to stop someone from crossing out the check mark you put there and then checking "yes."

I guess I was wrong

You really are that dense.

"comes from funds that have been previously collected" That says it all. I guess the politicians pass around a hat.

Maybe when you grow up you will get a clue.

Good day to you. You can have the last word if you like cause there is not reasoning with ignorance.

No, there is no reasoning

No, there is no reasoning with someone who tucks tail and runs and engages in name-calling because they have nothing of substance to share and jumps topics because they don't like an answer to one of the questions they posed when the answer is in black-and-white on form 1040.

The politicians get their hats filled in the form of lobbyist, PAC, and special interest money whether or not this box exists. That's worth complaining about. But enjoy being paranoid over whether or not someone at the IRS is secretly checking the "yes" box on your return so $3 can be put toward this fund. Maybe IRS agents are also using it to play tic-tac-toe with and/or make paper airplanes.

I'll say it again: if you care that much then write a letter and post it with their response here on the DP. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this site who would be interested in the reply and you'll get an answer from the source. If you're not willing to do this then quit whining.

Would you guys

quit bashing GJ ? For guys that go around complaining that this is not a GJ website ( which i tend to agree) you sure don't have a problem with it being a "anti" GJ website now do you ?
Is he really all that bad ? Lets face it, he's better than anybody else running other than Paul so why don't you chicken littles zip it already! I would take him over Ramrod ANY day.....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

sorry

GJ is no different then any other candidate.
He ignores the most important government mandate to protect innocent life where ever it may be found.
Johnson is profed/anti free market.
GJ has never served our military and will garner NO RESPECT from any of them.
Johnson is proempire/intervention and not limited/constitutional government.

and now we find out his campaign runs in serious debt and is kept afloat by the American Tax Payer?
Even the charity given GJ by innocent taxpayers- wont bring his bloated campaign out of debt!
What does THAT SAY?
Think about it.

There is NO DIFFERENCE between Johnson or any other candidate running,
He swims in the same pond, has no real message and obeys the same masters who pander to emotional, confused liberals who are looking for something- but dont know what.
You must understand economics to carry the support of a TRUE Paul supporter.
You must grasp liberty.
Paul supporters know what we have and what we'll get.
Johnsons' supporter doesnt.

This is just one more example.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

You love Romney so much,

You love Romney so much, you'll lie about Johnson.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"Annoyance is step one of thinking"
"We're all in the same boat, it doesn't matter if you like me"

sorry

he is still better than Romney....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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in what way?

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

In

that he keeps Romney out of the White House if Paul doesn't get the nomination, did you get that ? What are you just gonna sit back and watch Romney get elected after all that has happened ? Gonna prolong and push back the conservative agenda another decade because your hard headed like a Libtard ???

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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reread and address the comment because you only distract but never answer.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

But Isn't That The Lesser

Of Two Evils?

I would only "consider" GJ as a "protest vote".
This article does raise some relevant points to consider.

The jury is still out on this one.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Its like this

If Paul doesn't get the Nomination then GJ keeps Romney out and like i have stated...wherever the ball lands, its still better than Romney.
The worst thing for this movement that could possibly happen is for the Ramrod to get elected POTUS. It will set this movement back an entire decade.....whether you like it or not GJ is doing this country a service....and that's good enough for me.....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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"Keeps Romney out", translation:

Keeps Obama IN.

STAND WITH RAND 2016

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no REAL conservative would ever consider GJ.
Your handle is a mislead.
You are no more conservative then, well- GJ.
This is where conservative meets liberal.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

LMAO

My handle is right on and you are full of PooPoo and want Romney to win the election....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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You are a distraction and no conservative if you would fight a Paul supporter in favor of GJ.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

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I too want a Republican to WIN

That way Ron Paul Republicans who have seats, ofices and and campaigning are empowered.

Obama wins, then Clintons central committee members continue to control everything.

We have a great fight going on, but unfortunately too many are on the outside and not willing to get inside to actually make the changes they claim they want.

maybe you just like to whine about whies in office, since you appear to havew no lcue how things actually operate?

TPTB want Obama, any vote that is not for Romney assures to help TPTB.

STAND WITH RAND 2016

Not buying your BS Granger

I know perfectly well how things work. Maybe you should use spell check because your spelling does not represent, know what i'm saying ?
Romney does not deserve the nomination. Dictators do not deserve my vote . Ron Paul Republicans will be empowered when we get a worthy Conservative in the White House...Romney isn't it. Funny that you make it sound like Paul Republicans wont be empowered without Romney, that's the biggest stack of BS i have heard all week...Soooo towing the line for Romney.....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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I have dyslexia

I've been wearing glasses since I was 4. Makes my fruit, vegetable and ice carvings interesting, but I admit, my spelling has hurt me tremendously. I actually had to hire an editor in college. I'm hoping that by getting lasics eye surgery will help.

I understand that it can be unexcusable to accept poor, horridous, grammer and spelling. My Father wrote beautifully. He always had a red and blue pencil near him. At first he would buy me a learn to spell book for Christmas every year. No toys for me, BAD SPELLER. Then as I got out of grade school, he had enough of my poor spelling, and began beating me, telling me I was stupid, an idiot, even punched my face once, he was so angry and hateful of my spelling. He told me that stupid idiots like me should kill themselves and be removed off the planet. Think you can beat him on being a "Mean SOB"? He used to say that repeatedly, as he would beat me, "I'm a mean SOB!" Go for it.

People like you remind me of people like him. You go after my weakness and insult me rather than kindly seeking a common ground or solution. I don't know anyone who likes Romney. PTB selected Romney to give us Obama. To me, you're just a sucker. I'm not meaning to offend you, just I am not BSing you. What good does that for me, us, Ron Paul rEVOLution?

To me, your unkindness is the BS.

STAND WITH RAND 2016

That's awful.

I am crying as I write this. Thank you for sharing that terrible personal story about your childhood. Maybe people would stop being so mean spirited if they just paused for two seconds before they spoke or wrote something cruel. You never know people's stories about what shaped them into being the human beings they are.

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Thank you

As a child, it was exceptionally hard. I ran away from home when I was 15, having saved my money from working, and then I got a job at McDonald's and found it didn't pay my part of the rent.

Now, as an adult, I find that the abuse has ironically helped me, in that I became a survivor, and then a thrivor; so mean people, they don't affect me, and I don't feel the need to attack them back, but rather, move on without any guilt.

I appreciate your kindness and sympathy for that little girl. I'm no longer that little girl, and am not ashamed of my faults, as none of us is perfect, and I'm not trying to fool folks into thinking I'm smarter or better than them.

Like most folks here, I've worked very hard in my life and it hasn't always added up to what I thought it might, but I have been blessed, and count my blessings, especially in meeting good people such as yourself, who actually have genuine compassion.

There are rainbows and silver linings in every storm.

May God Bless you abundantly and constantly!

STAND WITH RAND 2016

Wow. This got downvoted.

Sick people on the Daily Paul today.

Aren't these funds donated voluntarily by taxpayers

over and above their taxes via checkoff on their 1040 forms?

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

That's Correct, However

"The latest payment brings the total of federal funds given to Roemer and Johnson to $351,961.10 and $230,058.91, respectively, according to an FEC release."

And:
"Roemer, who ran on the independent Americans Elect ticket, vowed to only accept small donations and no money from political action committees, super-PACs, corporations or lobbyists".

And:Regarding Roehmer;
"He suspended his campaign on May 31."

It's apparent that these guys will say anything to get to the top (POTUS), and we are all paying their freight needlessly.

Also pertinent is the RIPOFF foisted upon us by Americans Elect 2012, a CFR "Front" that never had the best intentions or transparency.

Another classic Govt Waste Story.
And we paid for it, one way or another.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!