And Reality can't get sweeter than THIS!
Submitted by PatriotEyes on Sun, 07/08/2012 - 23:30As preditced the US military, is no way ready to conduct a successful attack on Iran or Iranian assets without the threat of looming collapse, the only thing I see happening is they pull a false flag, liking setting a nuke off in a US city, or attacking an asset of ours and blaming them for it, maybe even nuke Iran, many tell me there's no way what I am saying makes sense but let me ask you this, did any of us think Obama would initiate the healthcare and NdAA, anyone ever know(save Ron Paul) that we would have 9/11, the way I see it anything is possible
Elite are getting extremely desperate
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/08/249890/us-economy-to...
Also, Israel does not have the capability to do this, without the US bases, and proper aircraft, and tech, to conduct a successful attack on Iran, It must be joint effort with US, Israel, UK, and France;. Israel would suffer massive retaliation from Iran, and only then the last resort would be to go nuclear, One thing to note is that their is too much strife and conflict in the military in both US and Israel to even invade Syria, the elite are struggling bigtime to give the go ahead
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Even if you have trouble buying that 9/11 was an inside job
... even if you are 100% sure that such are theories of tin foil hat wearers and that the US Government would never sacrifice two (actually more) of its most famous buildings and 3,000 people - then you STILL have to admit that the height we have taken revenge to - killing 288,000 over eleven years (and we are just getting started) invading two countries, one of which clearly had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, has been absolutely phenomenal.
We are using "hot pursuit" excuses and are still attacking suspects far from any war zone ELEVEN YEARS AFTER THE FACT!
I put nothing past the US Government concerning what they will do to their own people for an excuse to start a war, or how much they will milk it afterward to keep it going.
You don't get it. These valid points are the reasons we MUST
attack Syria and Iran. Hitlery Clinton would tell you that anyway,
Consumer spending is dead as is consumer confidence. The US doesn't produce ANYTHING anymore except war. Even when the Fed GIVES money away for investing, banks don't want it and they aren't loaning it.
If you could shrink yourself down small enough to observe the few brain cells of Hitlery Clinton and her boss Obomber, you would find that we MUST get our economy moving again by doing the only thing we do on a bigger scale. And that means to go to war with ANYBODY. The bigger the better.
Nazi Germany certainly wasn't sitting on a pile of cash when Hitlery's namesake, decided to take over the word with his Third Reich. In fact quite the opposite. War was the only thing that (almost anyway) saved Germany - until Germany lost (tried to put too many resources into taking Moscow). The point is NOT TO LOSE.
I think you are looking at the facts all wrong. All of these facts are valid. But they are the reasons that Hitlery and Obomber feel we MUST go to war, NOT won't.
Out of respect I should not call our President "Obomber".. Sorry
"Odroner" is much more appropriate.
While there are attack plans
While there are attack plans against Iran (as there are attack plans against every country and for almost every conceivable scenario), there are no intentions to attack Iran.
Last I checked, our government is making attempts to resolve the issue diplomatically; what you should be debating is whether we should be involved at all and to a lesser extent, how we should be involved.
The notion that our government would nuke one of its own cities in a false flag attack is paranoid and childish. I believe Ron Paul would agree.
You know a lot for a mere mortal
Prove that there is no intention. What empirical evidence do you have to support this?
Our diplomatic skills with Iran have been about getting them to give up rights due any nation. Now they constitute acts of war. Economic blockade is an act of war. And we pressure other nations into these acts of war.
Iran has always complied with the full IAEA regime.
And now we all but admit to special ops inside of Iran. Another clear act of war.
Returning to intent, who many of these nations in this region have we attacked (or "helped") in the past? Which ones HAVEN'T we? The list is getting short.
Our own government nuking one of our cities seems far fetched indeed but our government has a way of making the inconceivable slowly normal. The idea that we would one day use assassination and torture as a routine method of state used to be inconceivable. The routine killing of whole families and groups and marriage and funeral parties with drones used to be inconceivable.
Now it's just a numbers game. They don't care about human life individually or in small groups. So what's "small"? Iran might be considered small. A US city might be considered small if the objective were worth it to you.
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"our" government?
After what we've all just witnessed in this election cycle (and this has only been the *primary* part of the cycle), how can you use that phrase with a straight face? Who exactly is "us" in the concept of "our" government of which you speak? It certainly doesn't include me. The only sense in which this is "my" government is the same sense in which I could say this is "my" tumor (if I had one).
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What is begun in anger, ends in shame.
Let's hope that nothing happens
but if something does, we have to be on it FAST.
They better stop it
The beautiful youth of Iran do not need to endure this. Stop it!
Iran says they will take out most of the 45 US bases surrounding their tiny country.
Ron Paul is da man.
Our "elites" agree on the
Our "elites" agree on the first claim, but laugh at the second claim.
The "war card" escape from poverty is an easy call
and deficit spending is the norm. Besides, "defense" manufacturers are doing better than ever. Plenty of crap to mess life up.
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Agreed
but look at the situation, we werent involved in this many wars, prior to the depression, there was no revolution happening on this scale, people still looked to government for help, and there was never a massive spread of knowledge like this in the history of mankind, right now the anger is fast being directed to the leaders and bankers of the world, its amazing actually
what if collapse is also
an objective?
Actually
The Cloward-Piven Strategy specifically calls for manufacturing an economic collapse so as to usher in full scale socialism.
"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav
indulge me
I see it as reckless irresponsibility and utter disregard for saving the economy, its in their nature to be destructive, but yea that could true also
You can never guess what may be next!
And put nothing past them. But insanity must also be in many people. Insanity...doing the same thing over and over again...expecting different results. Many people actually believe in Tweetle Dee & Tweetle Dumb(Obamney). That is INSANITY!
Its psychopaths that run this world
thats why were in this mess, the way I see it, a successful psychopath becomes a celebrity,elite, banker, war general, or president, like the last admins were. A failed Psychopath becomes a serial killer, gangster, murderer, thief, or even rapists. What I stress is that the topic of psychopaths must be spread as much a the message of liberty, because these are the baddies that have dispensed the ridiculous and disgusting amount of destruction, torture and misery upon the human race. People must spread this info
I like the way you said all that!
Makes perfect sense. Sometimes I just wonder why we are so blessed to have woken up to all of this and so many are so stubborn...still believing that one of these guys will actually "save" the country. They do this every election, yet when you try to speak to them, they refuse to listen and become stubborn...like a child singing loudly so they cannot hear you speak. Not all are that way. But their is a chunk of them that are like that...every four years...and they still cannot see/will not see truth. In saying that...I don't even give up on them. Thanks for what you commented...liked!
I also question if this is a blessing or a curse.
On the one hand, I'm happy and grateful that I am not a fool, see things for what they are, and have the opportunity to help my fellow man. On the other hand, it's utter frustration at the utter stupidity and how densely ignorant people can be. They won't give you an intelligent answer because they CAN'T, then predictably have to resort to name calling because denial is the only language that some people understand and/or they'll give you that spaced out zombie look because their brain doesn't function as it should. Ah WTH, no one said this would be easy. I just assumed it would be easy because it makes common sense. Sheesh....."Thank you sir may I have another."
http://www.dailypaul.com/243749/can-ron-paul-win-in-november...
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3 - Thx sovereignjanice
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/395622.Ron_Paul
Hard to say really
But make no mistake, either we will be free, or fascism will takeover, but to be honest I see freedom winning, in the first revolutionary war I am sure they dealt with pretty stupid people, and getting their message must have taken long time, they had their challenges and frusturations, its not like it was one in one day, and there were times where we almost lost or gave in, and it took them years to give it momentum, its also that ppl don't want to accept there is fascist grip taking hold on the country, even though were reversing it, we might have to go through much pain, even a nuclear war, or major crisis, we'l win in the end, the universe is made of this amazing energy and power we call life, and love is our very existence, Its no doubt the elite will attack eachother, its happening too, never in history has so much truth been revealed with the massive amount of knowledge from the internet given to so many ppl.
I like your optimism
and I hope you're right.
http://www.dailypaul.com/243749/can-ron-paul-win-in-november...
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3 - Thx sovereignjanice
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/395622.Ron_Paul