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The Illinois Attorney General's Website states we are under British Rule: Will this BOMBSHELL be moved to "Off Topic"?

Once again, I bring this information forward with undeniable proof that we are under British Rule; and how the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666 effects each and every one of us on American soil.

Will the moderators moves this to Off Topic? If so, this site has been hijacked by the STATE (I mean the crown)

Here you go: http://illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/about/history.html When the 'crown' is mentioned SEVEN times, it is no mistake.

In considering the powers of the Attorney General, the supreme court, in Fergus v. Russel, noted:

* * * Under our form of government all of the prerogatives which pertain to the crown in England under the common law are here vested in the people, and if the Attorney General is vested by the constitution with all the common law powers of that officer and it devolves upon him to perform all the common law duties which were imposed upon that officer, then he becomes the law officer of the people, as represented in the State government, and its only legal representative in the courts, unless by the constitution itself or by some constitutional statute he has been divested of some of these powers and duties.

(Fergus, at 337.)

Farther down the page reads: You Will Love This!

The powers generally understood to belong to the Attorney General at common law have been summarized as follows:

* * * 1st. To prosecute all actions, necessary for the protection and defense of the property and revenues of the crown. 2d. By information, to bring certain classes of persons accused of crimes and misdemeanors to trial. [3rd.] By scire facias, to revoke and annul grants made by the crown improperly, or when forfeited by the grantee thereof. 4th. By information, to recover money or other chattels, or damages for wrongs committed on the land, or other possessions of the crown. 5th. By writ of quo warranto, to determine the right of him who claims or usurps any office, franchise or liberty, and to vacate the charter, or annul the existence of a corporation, for violations of its charter, or for omitting to exercise its corporate powers. 6th. By writ of mandamus, to compel the admission of an officer duly chosen to his office, and to compel his restoration when illegally ousted. 7th. By information in chancery, to enforce trusts, and to prevent public nuisances, and the abuse of trust powers. 8th. By proceedings in rem, to recover property to which the crown may be entitled, by forfeiture for treason, and property, for which there is no other legal owner, such as wrecks, treasure trove, &c. (3 Black. Com., 256-7, 260 to 266; id., 427 and 428; 4 id., 308, 312.) 9th. And in certain cases, by information in chancery, for the protection of the rights of lunatics, and others, who are under the protection of the crown. (Mitford's Pl., 24-30, Adams' Equity, 301-2.)

Now my link from yesterday that swiftly got moved to Off Topic:


And if you wondered if the Act was in effect at the time of the adoption of the constitution, I bring you this, from member "Heir" that commented below that link:

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2608045 ... Thank You For Your Research, Sir!

I will continue to scratch-kick and scream until this topic of the Trust and our Estates gets the attention it deserves.

Dr. Paul cannot do this alone people, it takes individual involvement from each of us, because Dr. Paul is not the Administrator or Beneficiary, or Executor of ANY of our personal Estates, only his own.

The Certificate of Live Birth is the "Office" of the DEAD Estate the crown/IMF/Vatican created in our behalf's. Until we wake up and realize it's THE ESTATE they are controlling us with, we will NEVER be free of this involuntary servitude.

I would like to publicly ask the moderator to move my post from yesterday back into the "Liberty Forum" where it belongs.

When things like 31 Ways to Use Mason Jars in the Kitchen get to stay in the Liberty Forum, but information like this is continuously and swiftly-swept away to Off Topic, something is direly wrong here.

NOTE: Your CERTIFIABLE proof the Certificate of Live Birth is the creation of an Estate, is the STATE Seal and Registrar's Signature that is embossed into the Document. The Registrar is the court of Probate and Probate deals with estates of the DEAD.

They had to create a corporate-DEAD-YOU in order to do business with and hoodwink you into bi-lateral contracts, so they could rule our lives and impose their statutory rules, codes, and regulations upon us. The way they achieved this goal, was the "Certificate of Live Birth"!

That document you are holding IS and Office in and of itself.

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Legions of Satan, 1787 (a very very rare book)


"A holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, BUT HER MILLIONS WILL UNKNOWINGLY BE LOYAL SUBJECTS TO THE CROWN."

"Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion(Talmudism?) and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. THAT GOVERNMENT THAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE DIVINE WILL BE THE BRITISH EMPIRE. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."


What possible meaning is there to the "rights of lunatics" in the 9th section?

Sucks for Illinois

Illinois law doesn't apply to me.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

I Think

you missed the point.

Excellent post, and documents.


Take notice: The MIA/KIA flag is not just for the dead soldiers whom never made it home, its for the living dead that 'roam' the land. An understanding of flag law combined with a 101 in estates, wills, trusts, deeds, title, etc., it will become self-evident we are living under estate law, at least when traveling on State Highways, and the people themselves are unconsciously unaware of the law they are under.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

Order 66

"...the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times... before the Empire."

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


There is no duration defined in the Oath

There is perhaps a case to be made.

But it ain't on that page.
They're just referring to the crown because of the roots of common law.

There is no doubt we are under British Rule.

Here's a comment "Heir" left on my other thread about the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666:


Very elucidating read, by someone very knowledgeable on the America being under British Rule topic.

And I've also got to ask: If there is no connection to the crown, then why all the Supreme Court cases that say otherwise; and why even have it on the Illinois website in the first place?

That was a good synopsis (on the civil-liberties.com site)

Here's my thinking, that we are dealing with a conspiracy from an earlier time. Not just simply initiated in an earlier time, but where now, most, if-not-all, of the real conspirators, are long-dead.

Almost like we're stumbling upon the still-in-operation machinery of an ancient civilization.
Or like the ancient Egyptians who stumbled upon the vastly older Great Pyramid.

Same with the birth-certificate trust and maritime wartime/peacetime flag issues – the courthouse personal in an average American town have no idea about these things.
Actually, perhaps cancel what I said about the birth certificates, there's got to be someone at the DTCC (NYC) who knows what the score is!

I agree, we are dealing with a conspiracy from an earlier time.

That conspiracy has been kept alive by those in the know, such as the Registrar's who signs the Certificate of Live Birth; the judges who railroad people in court, along with the attorneys; DA's, STATE Prosecutors, etc.

These people understand what they are doing; they are 'professionals'; very highly trained and schooled in their fields.

Watch these judges when put on the hot seat with respect to the Administrative vs Trustee role; they get very upset, very quickly:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ0Y_jjlCTQ&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjv20sC5CY&feature=related

The average person with a little common sense has to ask him/herself, just how do I have authority over people who don't even work for me? How can I just send someone to prison for 20 years for a non-injured party offense, especially when I wasn't personally injured by that persons doings, and the State prosecutor wasn't personally injured? How and what give me the authority to ruin someone's life for growing some pot in their backyard? .... Remember: These are highly educated and trained individuals, they know exactly what they are doing.

For instance: When a State Prosecutor brings up charges on someone, as soon as the hearing starts and he opens his mouth, he's already violated Rules of Evidence 602, 603, 608, 802 in the first 10 seconds of the hearing (I mean shareholders meeting :)

He knows damn well he has no first hand knowledge; that he was not an injured party; that he's breaking his oath, and to him, it's all hearsay. But still he's bringing you up on charges and trying to put you in prison for 20 years?

Remember: We are dealing with "highly trained and educated" individuals, who know EXACTLY what they are doing. The Judge and the STATE are working in lock-step with each other to make as much money as possible. These people know they have no authority over the average person, but hey, it's all business, don't take it personal :)

Yes, Jean Keating did a Florida Seminar on the DTCC and what they are doing with the Birth Certificate; it's a doozy seminar, and the guy is pretty sharp; I'd say he's pretty spot on with his analysis.

You are correct: The average American working for $8.75/hour in those offices do not know anything about this. But when it comes time for the rubber to meet the road, the people that are stealing your money and sending you away for 20 years, fully understand where they get the 'supposed' authority to destroy your life.

They fully understand that they are dealing with an Estate, and the whole case is operating under Trust/Estate/Probate Law, and that 99.99999% of the population has no idea what' really going on behind the magic curtain of fraud.

But, the more people that come to understand; the more people get videos of these hearings with their super-secret Ninja button on the shirt video cameras, and post them on YouTube, the more it will get out.

It's rather simple when dealing with these people actually. When confronted by one of these agencies, just ask them what gives them the authority to take your money; fine you for this and that; lock you up, or tell you what to do period.

Their answer will be "Under statute 78qo4n7w44t; sub-section 5; paragraph 8; line 3, I have the authority ... bla-bla-bla ....

And then you rebut; ask them for their definition of 'person'; explain to them, if they continue, you'll bring them up on identity theft and larceny by trick with the Certificate of Live Birth, show them that SS and the Drivers License is NOT a contract; ask them to produce an employment contract and payroll records proving you're one of their corporate employees that's obligated to follow their statutory rules, codes, and regulations, etc.

They won't be able to rebut; it's impossible if you're not actually an employee of their corporation. The head of their legal dept. will look at your rebuttal affidavit, and it will go in the "Do not mess with this person again file". They will just move on to the next unsuspecting sheep in the herd and take their money.

No contract = No jurisdiction :)

The problem is that like

The problem is that like during colonial times people don't seem to care...even on here.

We aren't even under common law anymore. I'm sure some of you realize what those gold trimmed flags in the courtroom that you stand and give jurisdiction to represent.

"Representation of the Crown

"Representation of the Crown is translated in our system to representation of the People thus, serving the public interest is established as the paramount obligation of the Attorney General. "


Ventura 2012

-1 from a paranoid

-1 from a paranoid schizophrenic...can I have another?

Ventura 2012

Leave IT in the LIBERTY FORUM moderators!

Mike I hope your reading your own site, or are you still in China ? This Person "THE SOUTH" has been treated pretty crappy by your "moderators" For telling nothing less than TRUTH. IT'S not his fault the majority of people still have not,fully woke up yet. Yet this person, keeps trying to pull there blinders off,and show them what real liberty,freedom,and prosperity could be,how it was meant to be. Well hell...it took the good DR. 40years to wake up as many as he did, and they only could take as much as he dare spoon feed them. Keep on BRUDDA! Who knows they might be ready for some solid food,...........


Thank You for that Comment.

As soon as Michael or the moderators delve into this subject; or someone on this forum who has been here a long time and has the respect of the community, brings this up, it will go viral.

Sometimes it's not the information being brought to the attention of the community, as much as it is "who" brings it to their attention. I sincerely hope Michael will look into this; it is for real; it is the hook in our mouth by the tyrants.

The Estate; it's the ESTATE they are controlling. Each of us have our own Estate granted to us by our creator, and we are the Executors of that Estate, no one else.

But, the tyrants have hidden our real identity from us, and given us a new Estate; their Estate; the one THEY created; the DEAD one, that has the Registrar's signature on it; the "Certificate of Live Birth".

I brought this up about 2 years ago when David Clarence first brought the Estates to our attention; it got one comment and disappeared in the haystack of threads.


Once this catches on; once that light goes off in everyone's head about the DEAD Estate they created in our name, and that's where the actual birth of the STRAW-MAN originated, it will be a matter of days before it goes viral.

Once everyone figures out, this is how they are controlling; taxing; fining; pepper spraying; imprisoning us, stealing our property; our homes; our money; our lives and treating us like slaves on the plantation, you'll see a 180' in the political and judicial course of this country, in a matter of days.

The courts will be clogged to the hilt; Congressional hearings will start to take place; people will be showing up on the CEO of their STATES lawn, waiving those Certificates in the air, saying "WTF"?

"This is how you are presuming control over our lives?"

It is, without doubt, the document of our slavery; the root of it all, and it's all a case of stolen identity, and Larceny by Trickery from the day they 'coerced' our Mother's into signing that original Record of Live Birth that did NOT have a Registrar's signature on it the day she signed it.

Very simply put: The 'split the title' of your birth; hid the real you behind the document; and presented the DEAD you in the form of a "Certificate of Live Birth", and we picked it up and ran with it.

Thanks for you comment friend, this topic has been shoved to Off Topic long enough.

Yeah but no

"all of the prerogatives which pertain to the crown in England under the common law are here vested in the people" means the crown has been rejected in favor of some kind of commonwealth.


"prerogatives" = A hereditary or official right or privilege.
A right, or power that is exclusive to a monarch etc, especially such a power to make a decision or judgement. A right, generally.

"vested" = settled, fixed or absolute, with no contingencies.

The way I'm reading that is:

All of the prerogatives (hereditary or official right or privileges) which pertain (refer to) to the crown in England under the common law are here vested (settled, fixed or absolute, with no contingencies) in the people.

And you are aware of the Bretton Woods Agreement, right?