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"Fiscal conservative" Rand Paul pledges $9+ Billion to Israel on the backs of American taxpayers

UPDATE 7/14/12: Rand Paul's D.C. office responded to queries yesterday (sort of)

Rand Paul remains silent on $9 Billion dollar giveway to Israel

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Romney Lapdog Joins Criminal Senate, Guarantees $9 Billion Dollars (plus interest) in Loans to Israel in six second voice vote


U.S. Senate also acknowledges "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."
By Martin Hill
http://libertyfight.com/2012/criminal_senate_guarantees_isra...
July 9, 2012

Have you heard about the the "United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012"? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors.

The House passed their version [H.R.4133] on May 9, pledging unlimited loyalty and riches to our "special friend" Israel, with only two congressman dissenting- Ron Paul and Democrat John Dingell of Michigan.

The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving "military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles" valued at $200 million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014.

Boxer praised passage of the bill, stating "I am so pleased that the Senate moved quickly to pass this important bill, which reaffirms the important bond between the United States and Israel and helps ensure that Israel has the necessary tools to defend itself in this time of dynamic change in the Middle East."

Initially seeking documentation of which way turncoat Rand Paul voted on this treasonous bill, I tried to find the roll call votes. But as Harry Reid pointed out during the session, "THE NEXT ROLL CALL VOTE WILL BE AT NOON ON TUESDAY, JULY 10". The Senators passed this bill anonymously, in a so-called "voice vote"!

According to the Senate website, a
"voice vote" is "A vote in which the presiding officer states the question, then asks those in favor and against to say "Yea" or "Nay," respectively, and announces the result according to his or her judgment. The names or numbers of senators voting on each side are not recorded.".

After tracking down the actual video of this travesty, which was no easy task- (they seem to make these things hard to find on purpose)- it was like watching something straight out of the twilight zone. Two old guys in suits mumbling under their breath in a strange monotone fashion, with the entire U.S. Senate taking literally less than six seconds total to squander 9 BILLION DOLLARS
from the American people. A true outrage. They did not even call out each Senators name so that their constituents can hear whether they voted yea or nay.

You can watch the actual specific clip of this insane
exchange now: [Direct link here.] Below is the transcript.

05:58:3023 sec.


THE CLERK

CALENDAR NUMBER 437, S. 2165, A BILL TO ENHANCE STRATEGIC COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

05:58:3918 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE SENATE WILL PROCEED TO THE MEASURE.

05:58:4326 sec.
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
MR. PRESIDENT, I FURTHER ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE-REPORTED SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT BE AGREED, THE BILL AS AMEND BE READ A THIRD TIME, PASSED, THE SENATE PROCEED...

05:58:5622 sec.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS

05:59:0321 sec.
MR. REID
THE AYES HAVE IT. THANKS MR. PRESIDENT. I ASK THAT THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID ON THE TABLE,.

Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense."
Several other alleged small-government "Tea Party" types supported this bill as well, including Freshman Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who was a cosponsor of the bill, and Congressman Justin Amash, who voted for the House version of the bill on May 9th. In reality, it is absurd to contend that anyone who even nods to the notion of limited Constitutional government would for one second consider guaranteeing $9 billion dollars in loans to anyone, ever.

The bill will soon be sent to Obama for his signature. By going to http://thomas.loc.gov
and typing the term United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 in the search box, one can read full details on both the house and senate versions of this bill.

The Senate version
summary states
that

"it is U.S. policy to: (1) reaffirm the commitment to Israel's security as a Jewish state, (2) provide Israel with the military capabilities to defend itself and help preserve its qualitative military edge, (3) expand military and civilian cooperation, (4) assist in a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and (5) encourage Israel's neighbors to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.


Expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense.


Amends the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005 to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense (DOD) items to Israel.

Amends the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to extend authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles.

Amends the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003 to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel.

The law required that a Senate report be done on the bill. On June 27, two days before the voice vote, Skull and bones member John Kerry presented the obligatory
"written report No. 112-179"
. A perusal of that extremely scant document reveals that no real effort was taken to compile anything of substance in the report other than to continue bankrolling Israel.

The report [PDF] did acknowledge, however, "efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas."

Kerrys' report began with lies demonizing Iran: "SECTION 2. FINDINGS.
This section provides several findings, including: that there is a special bond between the United States and Israel; that the Middle East is undergoing rapid change; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to foment instability in the region; that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to enrich uranium in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions; that a nuclear-weapons capable Iran would threaten vital United States interests; and that the authority to make available loan guarantees to Israel is currently set to expire on September 30, 2012."

The report states "That the interest rate for loans guaranteed under this heading may include a reasonable fee to cover the costs and fees incurred by the borrower in connection with this program", but then goes on to state "That funds made available for assistance to Israel under chapter 4 of part II of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, may be utilized by the Government of Israel to pay such fees to the United States Government"!

So we can charge them interest and fees on the $9 billion dollars, but then let them use our money to pay the fees! What could America, or the American people who supposedly elected these rats, possibly gain from this crazy alliance? More excerpts of interest from the report below.

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SECTION 4. SENSE OF CONGRESS
This section expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should take specified actions to assist in Israel's defense, among which are: providing the Government of Israel support necessary to enhance development and increase production of joint missile defense systems; providing the Government of Israel appropriate defense articles and defense services through appropriate mechanisms; examining ways to strengthen existing security initiatives and bilateral training exercises; and encouraging an expanded role for Israel with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

SECTION 5. ADDITIONAL STEPS TO DEFEND ISRAEL AND PROTECT AMERICAN INTERESTS.
This section would amend the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2005, to extend authority to transfer certain obsolete or surplus Department of Defense items to Israel. The section would also amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide extended authority to make additions to foreign-based defense stockpiles through 2014, and the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, to extend specified loan guarantee authority to Israel. As noted in section 2 of the bill, the authority provided by the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2003, as amended, would otherwise expire on September 30, 2012

SECTION 6. REPORTS REQUIRED.
This section requires several reports on previously enacted provisions of law, and otherwise. The first is a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military edge. The second is a report on actions that could improve the process related to Israel's purchase of F-35 aircraft. The third is a report on efforts to expand cooperation between the United States and Israel in homeland security, counter-terrorism, maritime security, energy, cyber-security, and other related areas. The fourth is a report on actions to integrate Israel into the defense of the Eastern Mediterranean

CHAPTER 2--MILITARY ASSISTANCE


(2)(A) The value of such additions to stockpiles of defense articles in foreign countries shall not exceed $200,000,000 for each of 5fiscal years 2011 and 20126 fiscal years 2013 and 2014

LOAN GUARANTEES TO ISRAEL

During the period beginning March 1, 2003, and ending September 30, 2007, loan guarantees may be made available to Israel, guaranteeing 100 percent of the principal and interest on such loans, the principal amount, any part of which is to be guaranteed, not to exceed $9,000,000,000, of which up to $3,000,000,000 may be issued prior to October 1, 2003, or thereafter and of which $3,000,000,000 may be issued subsequent to September 30, 2015: Provided, That such guarantees shall constitute obligations, in accordance with the terms of such guarantees, of the United States and the full faith and credit of the United States is hereby pledged for the full payment and performance of such obligations




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As With Most Rand Articles

All I can say is time will tell.

skippy

well--

hmmm.

That's a hard place to be, Washington, D.C.

It was hard for Mr. Smith.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Didn't Stop Ron From Doing The Right Thing

Did it?

skippy

When the time comes

When the time comes, I will review all candidate voting records. I will vote accordingly.

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That's my boy!

NOT.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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9/11 Truth.

Rand Paul is too politically ambitious.

We've absolutely got to find a true liberty candidate to run against him for President in 2016.

Can you say.....

Rand Paul sucks?

Needing some Education

Is a loan the same thing as foreign aid?

What is wrong with a loan?

I am asking in all honesty because I don't know the answers. If anyone has any time to help me out it is much appreciated.

If my neighbor asked me to borrow 10 bucks I'd say ok. Of course that would be if I had 10 bucks...We don't have any money do we. Have I answered my own question or is there more to it?

For bettter understanding read: The Creature from Jekyll Island

The problem isn't the loan.

A loan can be given out by any bank who is willing to take said risk.

The problem is that the loan is GUARANTEED by the United States of America (read: tax-dollars).

Meaning you and I are eliminating all risk to banks lending out the money to Israel.

This way the banks are assured payments to the interests on the loans, no matter what. First by Israel and then, when Israel says it will not pay the interest anymore, by our government.

Thereby the banks get paid, Israel gets money at no cost to them, and we the people are left paying the bill through the hidden tax called inflation (since the 9 billion dollars will have been created out of thin air).

9 billion seems low

we were doing 16 billion a year 30 years ago. I wonder if these loans even get paid back? Pretty sure nobody would say anything if they didn't.

many of the great intellectuals are Jewish. Why is it none of them are in the Israeli or American governments?

How does Hannity keep proclaiming Isreal our greatest ally and friend? Seems more like a one way relationship to me.

My wife is Jewish and I can say that a lot of Jews really dislike wack jobs like Netanyahoo because they are tired of having their good name trashed by jack asses like him just as our rightwing bizackos make us Americans look like idiots..

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

I called Rand' office several times

shortly after this passed to get a comment. At first there was no comment. Then, the aid paused while someone (perhaps Rand) explained to him that Rand did indeed support it and was present during voice vote.

Give us a break, please

Overwhelmingly supported bills such as that are considered "passed unanimously" when they're passed by voice vote. That's why the bill was set up as a voice vote to begin with. Nobody needs to, and few ever do, actually yell out either "aye" or "no" on such bills.

Rand Paul is not stupid, and demanding a rollcall vote on a voice-voted bill that doesn't have a snowball's chance of being rejected would be stupid political grandstanding with no good outcome.

Sorry, but you'll have to do better than that to get people to stop supporting Rand Paul.

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ya think?

...i don't think so!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I see...

...you've never worked for Congress or are familiar with the way legislation is handled by Congress. Right?

Right.

The easiest thing to do is wait

Once the 2016 election cycle comes around he would have made plenty of votes while in office. By that time there will be plenty of proof whether positive or negative BUT the point is, there will be votes that he made which can help many see if he is the right candidate or not.

I will say that he is NO Ron Paul thats for sure and as he keeps voting the parallel between the two might get even worse.

Either way though, whether he is voting to play nice or to trick the republicans and then once in office he would push for real liberty really doesn't work for me.

You can't lie your way to liberty or at least I can't see how it would ever really come true and stay around legitimately. I HOPED he was just like his dad but I should have realized that HOPE and CHANGE are just catch phrases politicians use to sucker us poor saps into giving them money/votes/time

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Live and Let Live

Hey give Rand a break

He did a good job on lightbulbs and low flush toilets didn't he?

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
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An oldie that needs to be

An oldie that needs to be bumped to the top for the new Rand worshipers to explain.

Bump

I agree.

Too hard to

Read.

Seriously though, I don't like how you draw conclusions and conjectures based on secondhand sources, when Rand is well and truly alive and capable of answering for himself.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

Why is it hard to read? Rand

Why is it hard to read?

Rand refuses to answer, but there is much to show that he clearly didnt have a problem with this aid to Israel, despite his previous rhetoric about cutting ALL foreign aid.

His D.C. office responded yesterday, sort of:

Rand Paul remains silent on $9 Billion dollar giveway to Israel

I will wate before I jump to conclusions.

"Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said "I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense."

What makes you believe the vote was unanimous?

Is it because Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia said so?

hummmm...

Something stinks.

www.youtube.com/truefictions

I try to change people every day. Do You?

It's because...

...Rand Paul didn't demand a rollcall vote. The "passed unanimously" is bogus because few, if any, even voice their ayes or noes on voice votes. Sometimes nobody says "aye" or "no" on a voice vote and even those bills are deemed passed "unanimously" by the person in the chair. To demand a rollcall vote on a voice-passed bill that has overwhelming support in Congress would be an exercise in futility and grandstanding. They already know the count before the voice vote is set up or it wouldn't be set up that way.

This poster either doesn't know what he/she is talking about or he/she is just setting up a bogus reason to not support Rand Paul.

Yeah, I too will wait to make

Yeah, I too will wait to make a judgement. Why is it that these guys, who think all politicians are lying scumbags, are willing to trust Johnny Isakson as the final authority on whether the vote was unanimous?

The claim has been made that

The claim has been made that there is nothing Rand could have done to prevent this. But
his father gave a speech about the house version of the same bill, very much
against it.
Look at what rand had to say about israel 'welfare' in 2011. Why the drastic change of tune?:


Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel
(2/4/11)
Paul also defended his calls to end aid to Israel, saying they’re just part of
his bigger efforts at fiscal responsibility. “I’m not singling out Israel. I
support Israel. I want to be known as a friend of Israel, but not with money
you don’t have,” he said. “We can’t just borrow from our kids’ future and give
it to countries, even if they are our friends.” And, he said, giving money to the country is especially unwise considering
Israel’s relative wealth. “I think they’re an important ally, but I also think
that their per capita income is greater than probably three-fourths of the rest
of the world,” he said. “Should we be giving free money or welfare to a wealthy
nation? I don’t think so.”

ALSO: Rand has said that he will try to stop aid to foreign country on principle. He didnt do it with this bill because he has no principles on aid to israel.

Rand Paul Warns He Might Hijack Senate Floor
Over Pakistan Aid


Rand Paul Slams Obama, Defends Israel

Rand Paul will sell this

Rand Paul will sell this country out to the Zionists at the flip of a dime. He is a better than average politician having come from his father, but he is no Ron Paul. I still support him for the sake of the other principles he stands for, but he has NEVER had the courage to say we need to disentangle ourselves from Israel as his father has. the fact that we have so few politicians who actually are not bought off by AIPAC and the Israeli lobby is a testament to just how pervasive the zionist influence has over the mechanisms and apparatus of control such as foreign policy, the media, etc. the U.S. is not very different from Weimar Germany or Russia before the eve of the Bolshevik revolution. Zionism is only the political manifestation of an already long established ethnic/tribal domination over the system through nepotism and in-group altruism. I recommend everybody read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald to understand anything that I am talking about.

there is no left or right, only system and anti-system.

Change the Title or Take this down

If the title isn't changed, this should be removed.

Reposting a comment from RealConservative, below:

Someone over at Ron Paul forums made the point that this wasn't actually one of the "hotline" votes, so Rand didn't actually consent to anything. The only way that anyone could've objected to this bill is if they had yelled "no" on the Senate floor. Rand may not have even been on the Senate floor. And even if he was, Rand is smart enough to know that there's absolutely no point in forcing a vote that would end up being a 99-1 vote. Rand is smart and understands the right time to fight these battles.

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it was a unanimous voice

it was a unanimous voice vote. No one voted NAY. It's not complicated, OK? No man should be intimidated into silence when 9 billion dollars of our money is at stake. That is cowardice.

No one voted "yea" either,

No one voted "yea" either, except Harry Reid.

someone has got to go back to

someone has got to go back to his fluoridated population to explain to them he's looking out for their best interest.

lawrence